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[jmillhimes]

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WOW..Names coming up already are alot of College coaches??? Dont like that. Sumlin name brought up along with Penn St head coach


NM....They want someone with head coching experience but also want someone with pro experience

[jmillhimes]

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Probably why they did it, first vacancy and maybe the most valuable from a 'win now' perspective if they want to get a high profile coach.

Gary Kubiak fired in 8th season as Texans HC. With No. 1 pick and SB talent, this likely to be most desirable job in the league
— Ed Werder (@Edwerderespn) December 6, 2013

Agree. They will interview Wade Phillips and likely 4-5 others. McNair says final straw was they have more talent then Jacksonville and to lose twice to Jacksonville is unacceptable

[SPTO]

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jmillhimes that doesn't rule out the Penn State coach as he has pro experience. I'm not always the biggest fan of firing a coach in the middle of the season but the Texans have such a bust this season that it had to happen. At least they now know what they have at the QB position. Keenum I think could be a pretty good backup QB who eventually becomes a starter under the right conditions but I think they're going to draft a QB this year.

[areobee401]

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Houston will be the job to land this off-season. Set up just about as good as any incoming coach could ask for.

[SPTO]

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Houston will be the job to land this off-season. Set up just about as good as any incoming coach could ask for.

I wouldn't be surprised that with the right coach and depending on what they do with the QB position the Texans will be back in the playoffs next season.

[TheMatrix31]

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He had to go. It was time. I loved him for a while and loved how the players respected him overall, but it was time. I have to thank him for getting us out of the Capers/Casserly years and putting on some entertaining football with a couple of playoff appearances.

Whatever happens, I want the offense to be very versatile and balanced. I love the rollouts and the fundamental philosophies behind what we have now. Would love to get more creative though. I'm not too crazy about Dennison and thought Baby Shanahan was much better at OC.

I want a guy who will teach the team to play hard but not stupid or dirty. We've been penalized way, way, way too much and frankly I've seen a lot of thuggery on this team on the field in recent years perhaps to overcompensate for our reputation as "being soft." I don't like that. You can play tough without being dumb or dirty. See JJ Watt.

We also need game management. The biggest knock on Kubiak I have over the time he was with Houston was that his game management overall was terrible. Clock stupidity, dumb challenges, and a lot of other stuff that just plain didn't make sense at all. That HAS to be shored up with the new coach.

Also, I assume a new coach means we'll have an entire new staff. Wade has been disappointing this year (as is basically tradition for defenses under his leadership----one or two really good years then tailing off). Also, perhaps most unsung is the fact that we need to get rid of Joe Marciano, our special teams coach who has been an unmitigated disaster for years now and has inexplicably held onto his job. Oh yeah, our strength and conditioning staff too. Has to go. Too many damn injuries. Enough. If the new coach can help build depth to mask injuries, that'd be great. That "Next Man Up" crap utopian fantasy only takes you so far though.

I also don't want some college gimmick guy. You strike out on that and it's a waste of time and we'll go from simply having one down year to being in spiral mode where we're forced to truly rebuild.

I don't want Gruden. Overrated and overdiscussed. I'd like Cowher but his offensive creativity is not very prevalent.

I simply don't know who'll be available and I don't know much about coaching staffs around the league to see which coordinators we might pluck.

Get it right, get some talent at the top of the draft (or trade down, my preference) and get back to contention.

[jmillhimes]

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He had to go. It was time. I loved him for a while and loved how the players respected him overall, but it was time. I have to thank him for getting us out of the Capers/Casserly years and putting on some entertaining football with a couple of playoff appearances.

Whatever happens, I want the offense to be very versatile and balanced. I love the rollouts and the fundamental philosophies behind what we have now. Would love to get more creative though. I'm not too crazy about Dennison and thought Baby Shanahan was much better at OC.

I want a guy who will teach the team to play hard but not stupid or dirty. We've been penalized way, way, way too much and frankly I've seen a lot of thuggery on this team on the field in recent years perhaps to overcompensate for our reputation as "being soft." I don't like that. You can play tough without being dumb or dirty. See JJ Watt.

We also need game management. The biggest knock on Kubiak I have over the time he was with Houston was that his game management overall was terrible. Clock stupidity, dumb challenges, and a lot of other stuff that just plain didn't make sense at all. That HAS to be shored up with the new coach.

Also, I assume a new coach means we'll have an entire new staff. Wade has been disappointing this year (as is basically tradition for defenses under his leadership----one or two really good years then tailing off). Also, perhaps most unsung is the fact that we need to get rid of Joe Marciano, our special teams coach who has been an unmitigated disaster for years now and has inexplicably held onto his job. Oh yeah, our strength and conditioning staff too. Has to go. Too many damn injuries. Enough. If the new coach can help build depth to mask injuries, that'd be great. That "Next Man Up" crap utopian fantasy only takes you so far though.

I also don't want some college gimmick guy. You strike out on that and it's a waste of time and we'll go from simply having one down year to being in spiral mode where we're forced to truly rebuild.

I don't want Gruden. Overrated and overdiscussed. I'd like Cowher but his offensive creativity is not very prevalent.

I simply don't know who'll be available and I don't know much about coaching staffs around the league to see which coordinators we might pluck.

Get it right, get some talent at the top of the draft (or trade down, my preference)

Well....Im scared Gruden or Cowher will be another version of Joe Gibbs where the game has passed them by. I like to see Bill O Brien here but Im skeptical. I dont like the idea of Wade Phillips as head coach. McNair mentioned Lovie Smith but I really never followed his career.

[jmillhimes]

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I wouldn't be surprised that with the right coach and depending on what they do with the QB position the Texans will be back in the playoffs next season.

Its possible. Im not sold in the Colts yet. The division is really still wide open. Titans have issues, Jacksonville has qb issues but show signs of improvement. If the right coach comes in, KC of this year they could be

[areobee401]

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Can't see Gruden or Cowher ever coming back to coaching. Make too much in television with no where near the stress coaching brings.

[N51_rob]

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Yea, but the whole team looks bad. Dumb penalties, dumb mistakes. And if the team isn't responding to him anymore, no point in keeping him around.

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No problem with him being fired, but don't like it being done during the season, for a guy like that. He took them from the mess they were and built them into a winner. The things you mention penalties, mistakes are more on the player than the coach. If you had said, unprepared, poorly managed games, bad gameplans/adjustments etc that is on the coach. But players play. That said, the 4th down play late against Jacksonville last night was a bad one IMO, which again falls on the coach in that instance.

For what ever reason Kubiak being fired with game still on the schedule irks me. That said, if he still wants to call plays the rest of the season he can come to Washington and shoe Kyle Shanahan a thing or five.

[TheMatrix31]

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I don't think Gruden or Cowher will be involved, just commented on them since they're always talked about.

[jmillhimes]

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Hell yeah...Joe marciano fired!!!!!

[TheMatrix31]

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RT @AdamSchefter: Not just changes with Gary Kubiak. Texans terminated contract of special teams coach Joe Marciano.




Thank God Thank God Thank God.

[Aggies7]

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I don't think Gruden or Cowher will be involved, just commented on them since they're always talked about.

I could see Gruden considering the job, but not Cowher. Honestly, I think Cowher is very happy and comfortable in the CBS Pre Game Chair.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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No problem with him being fired, but don't like it being done during the season, for a guy like that. He took them from the mess they were and built them into a winner. The things you mention penalties, mistakes are more on the player than the coach. If you had said, unprepared, poorly managed games, bad gameplans/adjustments etc that is on the coach. But players play. That said, the 4th down play late against Jacksonville last night was a bad one IMO, which again falls on the coach in that instance.

For what ever reason Kubiak being fired with game still on the schedule irks me. That said, if he still wants to call plays the rest of the season he can come to Washington and shoe Kyle Shanahan a thing or five.

Couldn't that fall under discipline issues, which would in turn then fall under Coaching?