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  • Jr.
    Playgirl Coverboy
    • Feb 2003
    • 19171

    #10036
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by kingkilla56
    I thought I read something that he played 70% of snaps in the slot or out wide. That would be a pretty strong case for WR.
    Yeah, but how many WR's line up on the LOS ever?
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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21554

      #10037
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by kingkilla56
      I thought I read something that he played 70% of snaps in the slot or out wide. That would be a pretty strong case for WR.
      66% I think was the official number, and the CBA vaguely refers to "wherever a player plays the most snaps" as to determination of a player's position for the franchise tag.

      Under that language it would strike me that determining that Graham is a wide receiver - i.e. he he does not line up tight up on the line of scrimmage adjacent to the tackle on most plays - is pretty obvious.

      If the NFL is opening up this can of worms as to expanding the responsibilities of the tight end position for legal purposes, how does that affect players who switch positions and then make it big? For example, what if Niles Paul randomly became an all-star and Washington wanted to tag him? Paul was drafted as a wide receiver.

      Maybe I'm just thinking too much, lol.

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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #10038
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        I don't think the NFL is, but the arbitrator may be setting new precedent, I wonder what his percentage is when including this factor:

        @AlbertBreer
        Burbank's decision found that when Graham was detached, but close to the o-line, he was still playing tight end. That's a precedent setter.

        Edit, more detail:

        @AlbertBreer
        Burbank ruled that Graham was a TE b/c his majority of snaps taken within 4 yards of the offensive line. That 4 yards = another precedent.
        Last edited by mestevo; 07-02-2014, 12:47 PM.

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        • kingkilla56
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2009
          • 19395

          #10039
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by Jr.
          Yeah, but how many WR's line up on the LOS ever?
          I'm misunderstanding. WRs line up on the LOS on near every play.

          All these new precedents/rules the arbitrator made are very convenient.
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          • Jr.
            Playgirl Coverboy
            • Feb 2003
            • 19171

            #10040
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            I'm misunderstanding. WRs line up on the LOS on near every play.

            All these new precedents/rules the arbitrator made are very convenient.
            You're right, I misspoke. I meant on the line, next to the tackle.
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            • Hooe
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 21554

              #10041
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              So is Wes Welker also a tight end then?

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              • Watson
                Burrow Club
                • Jul 2008
                • 27013

                #10042
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                There's also the fact that he lists himself as a tight end in his own twitter bio
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                • kingkilla56
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 19395

                  #10043
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by Jr.
                  You're right, I misspoke. I meant on the line, next to the tackle.
                  Not many, but I know some tall big body wrs do it. I swear Ive seen Marques Colston do it. And if he were a beast and did most of his damage from there, the Saints (or any team for that matter) would argue he was a TE to save some cash.

                  Originally posted by Watson
                  There's also the fact that he lists himself as a tight end in his own twitter bio
                  Hes been listed as a TE his whole NFL career, why wouldnt his Twitter bio say this?
                  Last edited by kingkilla56; 07-02-2014, 01:16 PM.
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                  • TracerBullet
                    One Last Job
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 22119

                    #10044
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by Watson
                    There's also the fact that he lists himself as a tight end in his own twitter bio
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                    • elTodd
                      Little Big Puig
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1333

                      #10045
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Originally posted by kingkilla56
                      Hes been listed as a TE his whole NFL career, why wouldnt his Twitter bio say this?
                      I think you just said it best.

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                      • dsallupinyaarea
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2764

                        #10046
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Since data and your actual function on the field are irrelevant, what's to stop a team from designating players whatever position they want as a means of salary control?

                        Here's hoping the Vikings switch Peterson to FB on the depth chart so they can get a jump on the next negotiation. Go all out.
                        Last edited by dsallupinyaarea; 07-02-2014, 02:12 PM.
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                        • kingkilla56
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 19395

                          #10047
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by elTodd
                          I think you just said it best.
                          So whatever the team lists you as regardless of what you actually do for them, is the standard.

                          I hope the Giants label Eli Manning a kicker this season so we can pay him 3 million ona tag when his deal is up.
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                          • elTodd
                            Little Big Puig
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 1333

                            #10048
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            This hyperbole is incredible. I don't know what else to say.

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                            • N51_rob
                              Faceuary!
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 14805

                              #10049
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              If I'm Graham I don't sign the Contract and I sit out. Your QB said they will be fine w/o you and your HC didn't fight for you. Show them your value by not playing.

                              Won't happen but IMO Saints did him dirty for $5 million.


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                              • dsallupinyaarea
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2764

                                #10050
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by elTodd
                                This hyperbole is incredible. I don't know what else to say.
                                Where's my hyperbole? A FB could just as easily run the ball 25+ times a game and, just because a depth chart says he's FB, be paid significantly less than a RB even though they do the same exact thing on the field.
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