Aaron Hernandez Saga

[N51_rob]

Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

Especially after taxes, his agent's more than likely 10-15% etc.

Just FYI, NFL agents only make about 3% on deals they negotiate for players these days. They may make more if they "loan" them money, and they deals for endorsements may also be different, but player contracts only net agents 3% in the NFL, and about the same in most other leagues.

[NDAlum]

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Again, the obstruction of justice charge right now is nothing. How can the police prove that he destroyed evidence? Is it illegal to destroy your own property? Nope, so they have to prove that there was something on those items. Without someone talking, I don't see how he can be convicted.

Without all of the information I don't think it's reasonable to say the charge is nothing. Obstruction of justice in a murder investigation is nothing to ignore.

Your questions are very reasonable and they are the challenges the investigators face at this time. They will be exhausting all resources to find out information. They already have probable cause to conduct a search warrant of the Hernandez residence. You can bet they are also getting a warrant for his phone records. I'm not sure if other information such as GPS can be disclosed with a search warrant.

Hernandez and his guys are probably well versed and won't talk. However, one of them might if they can cut a deal with investigators.

This investigation has just started and I'm looking forward to see how it takes shape.

[NDAlum]

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Oh I understand the law, it's just that the police had to sit there and potentially watch their case be wiped away. Has to have been very hard to stomach. I suspect in the end he basically gets away with it.

But they could've just stopped them and taken their bags, as they were coming out? Right legal beagles?

IMO they could've "locked down" the house while a search warrant was being prepared. I mean they could articulate exigent circumstances existed where people should not be able to freely enter/leave the property.

Was it reported that police were standing outside when cleaners were cleaning the house? That doesn't make sense to me.

[bigbob]

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For those wondering about his financial situation, he signed a 5-year extension (which included a $12.5 million dollar signing bonus). I seen it mentioned that he didn't have that much money or something.

[ImTellinTim]

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IMO they could've "locked down" the house while a search warrant was being prepared. I mean they could articulate exigent circumstances existed where people should not be able to freely enter/leave the property.

Was it reported that police were standing outside when cleaners were cleaning the house? That doesn't make sense to me.

That's the thing. The cleaners were brought in before the police would have even camped outside the guy's house. It's not like they were standing outside like a bunch of sad puppies while he rubbed it in their face. It's just another in a long list of things that Hernandez has done to cover for either himself or his boys.

The obstruction charge is just in this case where the police see that objects that could have possibly held evidence have been destroyed. It's a valid reason to get Hernandez into an interrogation room to get to the bottom of what happened. I hope he enjoys his time in there because its going to be long and uncomfortable as he tries to explain his actions.

[N51_rob]

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That's the thing. The cleaners were brought in before the police would have even camped outside the guy's house. It's not like they were standing outside like a bunch of sad puppies while he rubbed it in their face. It's just another in a long list of things that Hernandez has done to cover for either himself or his boys.

The obstruction charge is just in this case where the police see that objects that could have possibly held evidence have been destroyed. It's a valid reason to get Hernandez into an interrogation room to get to the bottom of what happened. I hope he enjoys his time in there because its going to be long and uncomfortable as he tries to explain his actions.

He wont be in there long. If his lawyer is anygood. I also don't think they will call him in before they are ready to file charges. The cops want him in there so they can "lock" him into a story on the evenings events, to use against him later should his story change or the evidence not vibe. His lawyer will tell him to keep his mouth shut and answer the questions that he wants to answer. If the cops show too much of what they know too early Hernandez can craft his story around what they know.

That is why this is taking so long, they are getting all their ducks in a row. If Hernandez is anykind of smart he is making sure his boys have competent lawyers as well. (If he was really smart he would pay for those as well, or use his lawyers firm to provide them attorneys as well.)

[NDAlum]

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Hernandez would be wise to not say anything. Once you say "I want my lawyer" the questioning MUST stop. There is no way his lawyer lets him talk to police.

The arrest will be used to gather his DNA and finger prints. I'd assume these are compared to whatever evidence they find in this case.

BTW investigators can lie too

"We have an eye witness who saw you do it. You are really trying to tell me you weren't there?"

[Bmore Irish]

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If Hernandez walks away from this with no charges in the end, then I'd have to say he's not only damn good at being a tight end in the NFL, but damn good at being a criminal as well. Just hard to imagine at this point that he wasn't involved in some illegal activity, and the apparent cover-up is just so blatant.

[p_rushing]

Hernandez would be wise to not say anything. Once you say "I want my lawyer" the questioning MUST stop. There is no way his lawyer lets him talk to police.

The arrest will be used to gather his DNA and finger prints. I'd assume these are compared to whatever evidence they find in this case.

BTW investigators can lie too

"We have an eye witness who saw you do it. You are really trying to tell me you weren't there?"

Yep if he listens to his lawyer I don't think he says a word. The cops can ask whatever they want, but as long as he can keep himself under control he won't say anything. The only way he talks is if they have hard evidence that they show him and he takes a plea deal.

Cops aren't there to help you and they don't have to even say anything in court that would help your case. They even warn you, so it never really works out to talk unless you have never committed any crime in your entire life.

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[N51_rob]

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Yep if he listens to his lawyer I don't think he says a word. The cops can ask whatever they want, but as long as he can keep himself under control he won't say anything. The only way he talks is if they have hard evidence that they show him and he takes a plea deal.

Cops aren't there to help you and they don't have to even say anything in court that would help your case. They even warn you, so it never really works out to talk unless you have never committed any crime in your entire life.

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That is all the more reason to shut up and get a lawyer. If you have never committed any crime you probably have no idea what the legal system is all about and what happens once the cops start questioning you. I've never done anything more than misdemeanor crap as a kid, but as an adult I was called in once because there was a huge fight at a bar I was at. I didn't say one thing w/o my lawyer and it was a good thing, because somehow I came to match the description of the guy that started the fight. This was before video surveillance showed that I was buying shots when the incident started. No ill will towards the officers as they were following up on statements and reports, but I would be damned if I went in there w/o a lawyer.

[Jonsco28]

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Maybe I missed something, but I haven't heard one mention of the other two guys involved.

[NDAlum]

Yep if he listens to his lawyer I don't think he says a word. The cops can ask whatever they want, but as long as he can keep himself under control he won't say anything. The only way he talks is if they have hard evidence that they show him and he takes a plea deal.

Cops aren't there to help you and they don't have to even say anything in court that would help your case. They even warn you, so it never really works out to talk unless you have never committed any crime in your entire life.

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You are incorrect about police not having to say things that help out the defense. If asked a question the truth must be told whether or not it builds a case for prosecution or defense.

If an officer lies they lose their job. Well gets caught in a lie. I have seen it happen

[NDAlum]

Maybe I missed something, but I haven't heard one mention of the other two guys involved.

Yea I'm really curious about this as well. There were 4 guys in that vehicle...we only know about 2. That makes me believe there is a ton of information we don't know yet.

[bigbob]

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Maybe I missed something, but I haven't heard one mention of the other two guys involved.

Would you be following this closely if it was the "Hector Rodriquez Saga"? Doubtful, because I made that name up. But really, it wouldn't be that big of a news story because it's not a star athlete and the reporters wouldn't be making as big of a deal out of it.

The name itself is drawing people into the news story.

If it was just some random guy off the street, it would be labeled as just another murder.

[jbd345]

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Hernandez would be wise to not say anything. Once you say "I want my lawyer" the questioning MUST stop. There is no way his lawyer lets him talk to police.

The arrest will be used to gather his DNA and finger prints. I'd assume these are compared to whatever evidence they find in this case.

BTW investigators can lie too

"We have an eye witness who saw you do it. You are really trying to tell me you weren't there?"

Of course investigators lie, but most of the time it's used as a tactic to catch a person of interest in a lie.