2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

[jmillhimes]

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I could see Houston taking Clowney first then maybe 2nd round snagging a qb. Im hearing alot about Jimmy Garapaloo. He looks like David Carr..Just saying.

[jmood88]

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If Houston is drafting quarterbacks based on how they look, I'm pretty sure that a guy who looks like Carr is the last guy they'd pick.

[BlackNGold]

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I was really hoping Pitt would get a shot at Justin Gilbert, but after his combine he probably won't be there at 15.

[ThreeKing]

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Keith McGill could be rising up the draft boards.


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[blackceasar]

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Honestly I'm not sold on Johnny at number one, or Teddy either. Honestly if Arian Foster returns to form this year (and get a decent backup to share the load), you don't need to have a long term difinitive answer at QB just yet.

Honestly if I were the Texans GM, I would draft Clowney and let him and JJ Watt loose on all the QB's in their division. I would then see what QB's are falling into the 2nd round. If AJ Mcarren is there 2nd round grab him.. maybe even find a way to move back up into the first round to get him... then you sign Michael Vick to be your short term QB solution (I don't care what people say, he can still play) and even if AJ isn't your long term QB of the future you still have next year to find your QB.

The only way I would pass on Clowney at #1 overall is if Andrew Luck was in this years draft.. but he's not. Teddy and Johnny Football... I'm just not sold on them when you have Clowney there staring you in the face ripe for the taking.

[BIGMAC246]

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The Lions would be smart to pick Justin Gilbert, way more versatile(kick return/punt return) than Dennard.


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[The_Wise_One]

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Honestly I'm not sold on Johnny at number one, or Teddy either. Honestly if Arian Foster returns to form this year (and get a decent backup to share the load), you don't need to have a long term difinitive answer at QB just yet.

Honestly if I were the Texans GM, I would draft Clowney and let him and JJ Watt loose on all the QB's in their division. I would then see what QB's are falling into the 2nd round. If AJ Mcarren is there 2nd round grab him.. maybe even find a way to move back up into the first round to get him... then you sign Michael Vick to be your short term QB solution (I don't care what people say, he can still play) and even if AJ isn't your long term QB of the future you still have next year to find your QB.

The only way I would pass on Clowney at #1 overall is if Andrew Luck was in this years draft.. but he's not. Teddy and Johnny Football... I'm just not sold on them when you have Clowney there staring you in the face ripe for the taking.

Crazy the similarities between this and the 2006 draft. Texans have a chance to take the home-state superstar quarterback (Vince Young, Johnny Manziel) or the freak defensive end (Clowney, Williams.) Wonder if the result of Mario Williams has any effect on Houston's decision this time around.

[CBoller1331]

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Crazy the similarities between this and the 2006 draft. Texans have a chance to take the home-state superstar quarterback (Vince Young, Johnny Manziel) or the freak defensive end (Clowney, Williams.) Wonder if the result of Mario Williams has any effect on Houston's decision this time around.

I have to say it will. Mario Williams ended up being just about as good as they thought, but in the long run it didn't really help the texans build a championship team. I say they go QB this time. Which one is a whole nother question.....

[Bmore Irish]

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I really like Marqise Lee and Brandon Cooks at WR, and especially as guys the Ravens may have an opportunity to draft. I believe they'd be perfect compliments to what we already have and the offense we'll be running.

Also, I know Ebron, Amaro, and to an extent, ASJ, are the guys getting all the love at TE, but Troy Niklas of ND is a guy to watch for in the late 2nd-early 3rd round. He's massive, a very good blocker, can win contested jump balls, and really has potential to grow into even more of a playmaker. He's very much a "complete" TE, and there's a lot of value in getting guys like that in the 2nd/3rd/4th rounds.

The depth of talent really seems to be the story of this draft.

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[TracerBullet]

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The Lions would be smart to pick Justin Gilbert, way more versatile(kick return/punt return) than Dennard.


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Because Jeremy Ross didn't take care of that position last year? If they take a cornerback, it will be based on their potential to play that position.

[jmillhimes]

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Crazy the similarities between this and the 2006 draft. Texans have a chance to take the home-state superstar quarterback (Vince Young, Johnny Manziel) or the freak defensive end (Clowney, Williams.) Wonder if the result of Mario Williams has any effect on Houston's decision this time around.

Thats my thought process. I mean Clowney and Watta would be great but they need Cushing to stay healthy and they must address there secondary.
I just feel there are to many QB's to take one right off the bat. Johnny Football, Bridgwater, etc....none are elite standouts

[blackceasar]

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Some people say the Texans should trade out of the number 1 spot. I don't think so. Just take Clowney and figure out the rest. Here's my knock on Manzell... hes a kid. He's not a man. Russell Wilson is a young MAN. I don't think Manzell's personality is going to jive well with some of the senior memembers of the team. I don't see a leader in Manzell.. I see a kid who was talented enough to be the starting QB for Texas A&M and that's not the same as being a leader. Not all starting QB's are leaders. Joe Flacco is NOT a leader. Trent Dilfer when he was starting was NOT a leader... even when they won their Super Bowl.

Could you imagine if Johnny Football goes to a team with his same personality (and its not going to change, you are who you are) and he cant get the job done at the NFL level? I'm sorry but Johnny Football isn't going to take the Texans to the Superbowl anytime soon, neither is Teddy... so just get the best damn player available... if Clowney steps up his work ethic (he doesnt have an attitude problem) he's probably going to the pro bowl his rookie year. He and Watt could do something special in Houston for the next 10 years at least and the Texas will eventually get the QB they really need.

I know back in 2006 some people were thinking Williams or Bush.. in my opinion, the Texans had a harder decision to make then than they do know. Bush was a bonafide freak at RB coming out of USC and Williams was the equivalent at his position and the Texans needed BOTH of those holes filed. They could have flipped a coin back then and been fine taking either one (im talking about Bush out of USC, not Bush during his years in NO). But I don't think they have that hard of a choice this time around. Clowney is as advertised. He's a once in a generation player at his position.. Manzell is just potentially the best QB available out of all the QB's in the draft this year.. it's different.

[canesfins]

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I can't decide what I would do if I was the Texans. Seems my decision changes every other day. Right now I'm leaning towards Clowney or trading down.

[Bmore Irish]

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Bortles might be overtaking Bridgewater and Manziel as the top QB prospect anyway when it's all said and done. He's got the prototypical size, he's athletic, and he actually threw at the combine, and looked good doing it.

A lot can change between now and draft day, especially with pro days left to conduct.

I've always been on the Bridgewater train during his college career, but you know how scouts get enamored with numbers and measurements, and Bortles has them, plus the tape from his senior year. Pretty impressive.

I also agree on the sentiment that Clowney is a once-in-a-generation talent whose potential far outweighs concerns of work ethic, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised with pretty much anything the Texans do.

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[TracerBullet]

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Some people say the Texans should trade out of the number 1 spot. I don't think so. Just take Clowney and figure out the rest. Here's my knock on Manzell... hes a kid. He's not a man. Russell Wilson is a young MAN. I don't think Manzell's personality is going to jive well with some of the senior memembers of the team. I don't see a leader in Manzell.. I see a kid who was talented enough to be the starting QB for Texas A&M and that's not the same as being a leader. Not all starting QB's are leaders. Joe Flacco is NOT a leader. Trent Dilfer when he was starting was NOT a leader... even when they won their Super Bowl.

I'm not sure what your point is here about QBs not being "leaders" but still naming ones that won Super Bowls. On a team with Andre Johnson and J.J. Watt, does he really need to be a "leader" instantly anyway? Russell Wilson went to a team full of young talent and that's just his personality. I don't think there is some cookie cutter personality type for winning super bowls besides not being a lazy bum and Manziel isn't one of those.

Not saying that I would take him if I was the Texans, but this reasoning sounds really hollow to me.