Super Bowl 50: Denver Broncos vs. Carolina Panthers Game Discussion Thread

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Don't see much similarity in cam and Byrons throwing motion at all personally.

Cam's throwing motion looks so strained. I guess when you're built like a truck your mechanics can be off because you make up for it with raw strength. But hey, he's been doing it forever so it's working out okay.

Leftwich had a big windup as I recall. More like Winston before he corrected it a bit last year. Winston puts some heat on his throws too.

Yeah they're really not alike at all

The motion isn't the same as Leftwich dropped his arm down real low and opened his elbow, but the end result was the same. Once Leftwich got the ball up to his shoulders, its similar to what I remember his looking like. The body and arm not getting into position to throw, wide stance, and weight too far back.

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Yeah, if any QB has a throwing style similar to Leftwich, it's Jameis. Although Koetter and company helped him work on his arm motion all year and he started to get better results.

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Yeah, if any QB has a throwing style similar to Leftwich, it's Jameis. Although Koetter and company helped him work on his arm motion all year and he started to get better results.

Sports Science did a piece on his motion from college and during the season, maybe even from early starts to later starts, and it was a pretty drastic improvement in release time.

That's the difference between a fumble/incompletion/interception and a potential completion, as was so clearly illustrated to spark this discussion.

It amazes me that even up through college and in to the pro's that guys can have such bad mechanics or motions that were never addressed, and that when they are addressed in the NFL they pretty much relearn how to throw, something they've done for probably 10-15 years at that point.

Kind of feeds in to the discussion we had a while back about whether college coaches are supposed to prepare you for the NFL versus just winning games while you're there.

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Sports Science did a piece on his motion from college and during the season, maybe even from early starts to later starts, and it was a pretty drastic improvement in release time.

That's the difference between a fumble/incompletion/interception and a potential completion, as was so clearly illustrated to spark this discussion.

It amazes me that even up through college and in to the pro's that guys can have such bad mechanics or motions that were never addressed, and that when they are addressed in the NFL they pretty much relearn how to throw, something they've done for probably 10-15 years at that point.

Kind of feeds in to the discussion we had a while back about whether college coaches are supposed to prepare you for the NFL versus just winning games while you're there.

It does, but this is also one of the things that the 20 hour cap on practice time can also be blamed on. You have to install a gameplan and break down film not much time for mechanics, which is why you hear that so many players coming out are called "raw" short for poorly coached. Its is more prevalent at the lower levels where the assistants haven't had the best mentors themselves.

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Re: Super Bowl 50: Denver Broncos vs. Carolina Panthers Game Discussion Thread

Sports Science did a piece on his motion from college and during the season, maybe even from early starts to later starts, and it was a pretty drastic improvement in release time.

That's the difference between a fumble/incompletion/interception and a potential completion, as was so clearly illustrated to spark this discussion.

It amazes me that even up through college and in to the pro's that guys can have such bad mechanics or motions that were never addressed, and that when they are addressed in the NFL they pretty much relearn how to throw, something they've done for probably 10-15 years at that point.

Kind of feeds in to the discussion we had a while back about whether college coaches are supposed to prepare you for the NFL versus just winning games while you're there.

One of our college games I went to the starting QB for the other team used the horrible keep your shoulders square with the LOS and back straight up drop backs. I wonder why there was no velocity on his passes and they could not execute a 3 step drop pass for nothing. I checked the program and he was a junior. I think that is inexcusable.