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  • Broncos86
    Orange and Blue!
    • May 2009
    • 5505

    #3211
    Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

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    • Jonsco28
      Bob Loblaw
      • Sep 2008
      • 1057

      #3212
      Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

      So would you guys rather Denver ride it out with Miller, or try to trade him? I know the Broncos aren't going to part ways with him, but man... I just can't see him keeping his nose clean. They are probably going to lose him and and get nothing in return. He's an unbelievable talent with absolutely no clue when he's off the field. Needless to say, he's become more of an embarrassment for the team and their fans.

      There was a lot of talk about how Shannon Sharpe just had a heart-to-heart with this guy as well. I see that conversation stuck.

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      • Broncos86
        Orange and Blue!
        • May 2009
        • 5505

        #3213
        Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

        If the kid can't seem to get the message while the message is fresh, then he's screwed. He's a liability. I'd have NO issues if the Broncos announced a Von Miller trade today. Sooner or later, he'll be finding himself with a year suspension and we'll get to watch our draft pick disappear with no return.

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        • Jonsco28
          Bob Loblaw
          • Sep 2008
          • 1057

          #3214
          Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

          What's even worse is who would want to trade for him and assume the risk? I wouldn't.

          I can't even believe that we are talking about this. So stupid. I'm going to start look at Denver's defense as if Miller isn't a part of the picture anymore. Hopefully Denver does the same. I hope the kid gets two more games tacked on to his six.

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          • TRC
            Rookie
            • Oct 2009
            • 209

            #3215
            Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

            At some point, Bowlen is going to have to discipline Miller as well b/c, at this point, his conduct is and continues to be detrimental to the team. Embarrassing. One thing is for certain: Miller can forget about a big, long term contract with the Broncos. He is totally screwing himself and his future in the NFL not to mention his team and all of us fans. What a joke.

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            • Broncos86
              Orange and Blue!
              • May 2009
              • 5505

              #3216
              Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

              Miller has really messed himself up in terms of the future. He had a big contract coming after his rookie contract expired. He can kiss that goodbye. If our defense continues to perform well in his absence, then Miller might be trade bait before the trade deadline to a team that is desperate. We won't get top dollar for him, but at least we can get something. Even if we get a 4th round pick for him. That'd be better than staring at the fact that we saw the second overall pick in the 2011 draft become a total bust and we ended up getting nothing out of it.

              He's at the point now where just ONE slip up with drug testing will result in a year-long ban. That will remain in place for the rest of his NFL career. Just one tiny "whoops, I spilled it accidentally" incident and we likely lose him for the year. That doesn't even count the idiotic traffic violations.

              I don't care how talented he is. He's an embarrassment to the Broncos, and a liability.

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              • TRC
                Rookie
                • Oct 2009
                • 209

                #3217
                Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                Originally posted by Broncos86
                Miller has really messed himself up in terms of the future. He had a big contract coming after his rookie contract expired. He can kiss that goodbye. If our defense continues to perform well in his absence, then Miller might be trade bait before the trade deadline to a team that is desperate. We won't get top dollar for him, but at least we can get something. Even if we get a 4th round pick for him. That'd be better than staring at the fact that we saw the second overall pick in the 2011 draft become a total bust and we ended up getting nothing out of it.

                He's at the point now where just ONE slip up with drug testing will result in a year-long ban. That will remain in place for the rest of his NFL career. Just one tiny "whoops, I spilled it accidentally" incident and we likely lose him for the year. That doesn't even count the idiotic traffic violations.

                I don't care how talented he is. He's an embarrassment to the Broncos, and a liability.
                I could see the Raiders giving up their #1 draft pick for him. But I really don't want to talk about trading him yet...it makes me sick.

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                • Broncos86
                  Orange and Blue!
                  • May 2009
                  • 5505

                  #3218
                  Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                  What makes me sick is that:

                  A) He was supposed to be the good-character choice. He was supposed to be the kid to pick in terms of character. That was a major reason we took him. He wouldn't cause issues.

                  B) He's so damn good when he is on the field, and he's flushing what could be a hall of fame career that would stand above the likes of Lawrence Taylor. He's wasting it away on stupid stuff.

                  C) He JUST got done talking to all these people. John Elway, Shannon Sharpe, Roger Goodell. And then he turns right around and does this type of crap. If he doesn't take a six-game suspension to heart, what will register in his brain? It's mind-boggling that someone would be so careless so soon after getting busted and facing a possible year-long suspension.

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                  • Jonsco28
                    Bob Loblaw
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1057

                    #3219
                    Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                    And then throw in the fact that it just keeps getting worse...

                    There is a bench warrant for his arrest in California regarding another speeding ticket and failure to show up in court.

                    Get the man-child a life coach so he has someone to babysit him. What an embarrassment. What a distraction. What a joke.

                    I'm tired of it.

                    EDIT: Turns out there was no bench warrant, but he's still a knucklehead.
                    Last edited by Jonsco28; 09-13-2013, 11:37 AM.

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                    • Jonsco28
                      Bob Loblaw
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1057

                      #3220
                      Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                      Nice to see Moreno finally be the back he was drafted to be, even if it was 50 games later.

                      How scary is this team going to be if they ever figure out how to play 4 quarters of football?

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                      • gr18
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2309

                        #3221
                        Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                        Looks like Clady may be done for the season.Lucky Peyton only needs a center to snap the ball to him and a few receivers to throw to.He still wouldn't get sacked.

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                        • Jonsco28
                          Bob Loblaw
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1057

                          #3222
                          Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                          Originally posted by gr18
                          Looks like Clady may be done for the season.Lucky Peyton only needs a center to snap the ball to him and a few receivers to throw to.He still wouldn't get sacked.
                          I like your optimism, but Chris Clark is a definite down-grade. That's not a good scenario to have for blind-side protection when you have 37 year-old QB who is pretty much immobile.

                          This could cause Denver to have to go away from their preferred 3WR set if they need to keep a TE to help Clark on the left side. We'll see.

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                          • gr18
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2309

                            #3223
                            Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                            Originally posted by Jonsco28
                            I like your optimism, but Chris Clark is a definite down-grade. That's not a good scenario to have for blind-side protection when you have 37 year-old QB who is pretty much immobile.

                            This could cause Denver to have to go away from their preferred 3WR set if they need to keep a TE to help Clark on the left side. We'll see.
                            I hear ya.My post had a bit of frustration included in it to be sure.

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                            • The JareBear
                              Be Good To One Another
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 11560

                              #3224
                              Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                              As much as I really don't like Moreno, as someone else said earlier, he is running well. Hillman and Ball have been underwhelming to say the least.

                              The news of Clady's injury is harsh. Big loss, can't wait to get him back.

                              Luckily, I think timing wise I think they are gonna do fine without him.

                              Gotta say, I thought NYG game was a loss when I looked at the schedule in pre-season. This is definitely a very hard team to hold under 30 points when they can score from anywhere.
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                              • Broncos86
                                Orange and Blue!
                                • May 2009
                                • 5505

                                #3225
                                Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                                Originally posted by The JareBear
                                As much as I really don't like Moreno, as someone else said earlier, he is running well. Hillman and Ball have been underwhelming to say the least.

                                The news of Clady's injury is harsh. Big loss, can't wait to get him back.

                                Luckily, I think timing wise I think they are gonna do fine without him.

                                Gotta say, I thought NYG game was a loss when I looked at the schedule in pre-season. This is definitely a very hard team to hold under 30 points when they can score from anywhere.
                                I don't understand what there is to hate about Knowshon Moreno really. He has talent. He's always had talent. He's a smart kid, too. It's clear he gets the playbook, how to block, etc. He's not afraid to stick his head down and get dirty. His problem has been, from the moment he was drafted, that he's injury prone. That has been his issue. It's hard to work on improving as a running back when you're constantly rehabbing. Every year, he's had to rehab something. His rookie year, he hurt his hamstring and was busy messing with that. Then knees. I'm impressed he still has explosiveness and strength after all he's been through.

                                How can someone not like Knowshon Moreno at this point? All he does is work hard. He works hard, he runs hard, and he keeps coming back. Like I've said, he could've been one of the top running backs in the league if it weren't for his injuries. Imagine how much valuable practice time was lost because of it? Reps where he would've figured a LOT out. Instead, he's working to get strength back on a repaired knee. It's a shame what has happened to him, really.

                                I just worry that Moreno's legs won't be able to sustain the workload. We saw this last year, too. He was carrying the load while McGahee was out, but he eventually broke down. Granted, Moreno didn't have a lot of carries, last game. But can we expect Manning to throw for 40+ attempts every single game this year? I hope he can sustain that pace. Because right now, our running game isn't at a point where we can rely on it and give Manning a 25-attempt game.

                                IMO, the problem with our running game is our offensive line. For as good as they're protecting Manning, they're not getting the job done with the zone-blocking. I don't like that we're suddenly trying to turn back into a zone-blocking running game. We keep trying to leave these massive DTs and NTs with one offensive lineman, and they keep disrupting our backfield. Our running backs are constantly dealing with guys 2 yards in the backfield. How are we supposed to run the ball at all like that? I really would like to see us go more power blocking right now. We seem to have more success, outside of those rare Moreno 20+ yard runs outside the tackles.

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