Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

[jake19ny]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

Um, what is this even supposed to be?

Edit: Oh my god I think I just figured out what this is. Did you seriously upload a video to YouTube showing the end of game score sheet? Combined with your incredible 500 CR - as well was gaining 0 CR for winning. This means you literally played an opponent who was nowhere near a 500CR - and you're boasting about dominating an opponent who's not good enough to even have a CR?

And then, in the description of this insane video, you put:

"Next time shut your dumb *** up!"

My god ....

I whooped you in an online versus game 2 years ago, and you messaged me saying it was the game's fault. And you told me I got lucky. All I said to you was gg.

Seems to be a theme with you.

Dude why do you care? All you do is call people out for their criticism of the game. The irony is you have your own criticism of the game. Surely you are not suggesting that only your criticism is fair, honest, and warranted. This isn’t the EA forums. We come here to talk, share info, praise and criticism of the game and nobody’s opinion or thoughts are wrong as they are their personal views on the series. If it’s constant arguing or battling with someone you are looking for these are the wrong forums.

[KoryDub]

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Dude why do you care? All you do is call people out for their criticism of the game. The irony is you have your own criticism of the game. Surely you are not suggesting that only your criticism is fair, honest, and warranted. This isn’t the EA forums. We come here to talk, share info, praise and criticism of the game and nobody’s opinion or thoughts are wrong as they are their personal views on the series. If it’s constant arguing or battling with someone you are looking for these are the wrong forums.

I'm not arguing with anyone man - I'm being pretty chill about Venom's constant attacks tbh. I mean - the guy literally uploaded a YouTube video and then proceeded to call me out in the description.. I mean.. come on lol

Edit: I don't 'call people out for their criticism'. I call people out who say 'devs need to be fired' and then post a screenshot of outshooting their opponent. Like - what is that?

Then there's Venom - who constantly just berates this game any chance he can but he demonstrates a simple lack of skill when playing the game. I've witnessed it first hand.

So when someone says 'x y z NEEDs to be fixed' and 'person x , person y and person Z don't know anything about hockey or have low hockey IQ's' I expect their skill to match their criticisms. But alas, in this case, it doesn't.

[SocialAssassin]

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There's one thing the game has had for years that people don't talk about.....the fixed CPU games. You're on a bit of a win streak and then there's a game where no matter what you do, you are going to lose. It happens in every iteration I've played and I know it's intentional. No matter how many shots you take, the goalie is going to save them all and you're going to lose. It's definitely a thing, and no one talks about it.

Happened to me again last night, Rangers v.s Devils, shots 32-31 in favour of NJ and Lundqvist got all of them, including desperation saves that he had no business getting to, multiple times.

[VeNOM3099]

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I'm not arguing with anyone man - I'm being pretty chill about Venom's constant attacks tbh. I mean - the guy literally uploaded a YouTube video and then proceeded to call me out in the description.. I mean.. come on lol

Edit: I don't 'call people out for their criticism'. I call people out who say 'devs need to be fired' and then post a screenshot of outshooting their opponent. Like - what is that?

Then there's Venom - who constantly just berates this game any chance he can but he demonstrates a simple lack of skill when playing the game. I've witnessed it first hand.

So when someone says 'x y z NEEDs to be fixed' and 'person x , person y and person Z don't know anything about hockey or have low hockey IQ's' I expect their skill to match their criticisms. But alas, in this case, it doesn't.

"Witnessed it first hand" but has never played me... Either your definition of "first hand" differs greatly from every other human on this planet or. Well, you are grasping at so many straws you might as well be a scarecrow.

You're also a lousy detective; you fashion yourself quite the Sherlock Holmes, but in reality you wouldn't even come up to Watson's shoes. I don't think you'd even compare to Columbo. So let me help you out here by planting a clue for ya: The reason I have 500 CR is because that was my first (and only) VS game in NHL 20. Also I won that game (my opponent backed out before the game was over) and yet how many CR points did I get? Give it to me in round numbers, pls... Oh zero? Well that's certainly pretty round. I guess this "lack of skill" I possess caused this glitch and not the game being programmed badly. Imagine being so bad you destroy your only opponent 6-2, eclipsing him in every game stat possible, make your opponent quit in rage and then you get shafted by faulty game code. No reason to call out the game being programmed by amateurs since it was obviously my lack of skill that's the problem. As Kory would like to say right about now: "Elementary my dear!".

You said I was upset and hated the game because I get dominated by my opponents. I showed proof that my criticism has NOTHING to do with the results I get. Irrefutable. Rock Solid. Proof. You said you played me "two years ago" and you beat me. Funny, I don't remember playing you. In fact, I wouldn't have been able to play you at all since all I ever played was EASHL Drop-ins and LG games. Also, I didn't show a game I won 2-3 years ago, I showed you a game I won a few days ago because, things change. Players improve. Oh you don't? Do tell...

Look, if something's bad, I call it bad. Pretty cut 'n dry... I don't call out the devs. I don't mock them. Heck, I even had a dialogue going with a few of them a couple of years back. Still do from time to time.

Yet what did you do given the chance? That's right... You acted like the blaggard you are and tried to attack me again. You act like you're the victim, when in fact YOU are the one going around slinging mud and insults at anyone who's opinions you don't like. Just ask DJ NEO to recount his experience with you first hand...

I'm done with you. You aren't worth my time anymore, or anyone else's time on this forum. I've outgrown you. If you weren't so inept (both at life and at this game), I might feel angry and insulted.

But I feel nothing. Just like what you are: nothing at all.

[jr86]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

There's one thing the game has had for years that people don't talk about.....the fixed CPU games. You're on a bit of a win streak and then there's a game where no matter what you do, you are going to lose. It happens in every iteration I've played and I know it's intentional. No matter how many shots you take, the goalie is going to save them all and you're going to lose. It's definitely a thing, and no one talks about it.

Happened to me again last night, Rangers v.s Devils, shots 32-31 in favour of NJ and Lundqvist got all of them, including desperation saves that he had no business getting to, multiple times.

To be fair that's not limited to this game. I've seen this in nba2k and FIFA. But worst offender of this is PES. Like you said you would be on a nice 4 or 5 game win streak when all of a sudden that next game your team plays like they are on something. Easy passes,through balls all go to the CPU,keepers making crazy saves etc. Worse still it usually happens against a lowly team that you would normally beat at a canter under normal circumstances..

[SocialAssassin]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

To be fair that's not limited to this game. I've seen this in nba2k and FIFA. But worst offender of this is PES. Like you said you would be on a nice 4 or 5 game win streak when all of a sudden that next game your team plays like they are on something. Easy passes,through balls all go to the CPU,keepers making crazy saves etc. Worse still it usually happens against a lowly team that you would normally beat at a canter under normal circumstances..

The best part is the goals the CPU scores are shots that are straight toward him with no screen or anything and it just gets past.

[VeNOM3099]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

To be fair that's not limited to this game. I've seen this in nba2k and FIFA. But worst offender of this is PES. Like you said you would be on a nice 4 or 5 game win streak when all of a sudden that next game your team plays like they are on something. Easy passes,through balls all go to the CPU,keepers making crazy saves etc. Worse still it usually happens against a lowly team that you would normally beat at a canter under normal circumstances..

NBA 2K has always had this thing where they try to simulate a team's hot and cold streaks during a game. For the most part they get it right, even though it is at times artificial looking (and a bit frustrating).

The thing about NHL though is that often it's not the ebb and flow of the game that gets you. It's the inconsistencies. Like the AI snatching passes while not even looking. Or making tape-to-tape, between the leg passes several times in succession. Or your goalie suddenly allowing a weak floater from the blue line. Or your AI teammates not being able to stay in formation while attacking. Or your AI defensemen slamming into you when you have the puck or you're in position to defend against the puck handler.

No game is perfect, NBA 2K20 has plenty of things that are wrong. The AI double-teaming bug is infuriating. But it pales in comparison to all the things wrong with EA's NHL series, and not just the most recent version.

Simply unacceptable in today's age to have a big company like EA put out a game like NHL in the state it's in.

[KoryDub]

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"Witnessed it first hand" but has never played me..

I have. You told me I was 'lucky' after beating you decidedly.

Anyway, I'm done with you.

[SuperGoalies]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

added my Franchise SuperStar Coach Mode 20 minutes, so in case u over look things in visual and shooting, its puck highlight is off and line changes are manual and shot aims are : aim-assist.


anyways have fun!

[don28]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

There's one thing the game has had for years that people don't talk about.....the fixed CPU games. You're on a bit of a win streak and then there's a game where no matter what you do, you are going to lose. It happens in every iteration I've played and I know it's intentional. No matter how many shots you take, the goalie is going to save them all and you're going to lose. It's definitely a thing, and no one talks about it.

Happened to me again last night, Rangers v.s Devils, shots 32-31 in favour of NJ and Lundqvist got all of them, including desperation saves that he had no business getting to, multiple times.

I may be in the minority, but I actually enjoy those games where you outplay the CPU and the goalie stands on his head and steals it from you. I've played ice hockey in real life over half my life. I've experienced this plenty of times. Plus, how many times do you watch your favorite team in the NHL have one of those type of games? Once or twice a year your team will have that same thing happen. In an 82-game season, I can live with a couple of those video game happenings.

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[Money99]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

To be fair that's not limited to this game. I've seen this in nba2k and FIFA. But worst offender of this is PES. Like you said you would be on a nice 4 or 5 game win streak when all of a sudden that next game your team plays like they are on something. Easy passes,through balls all go to the CPU,keepers making crazy saves etc. Worse still it usually happens against a lowly team that you would normally beat at a canter under normal circumstances..

Absolutely.
I think it’s because the CPU figures your team or players are good for x-amount of wins or points throughout the season.
So if you’re 8-0 and your top player has 20 points, the CPU will make sure the next game is a loss and your top scorer will be shutout.


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[oosterbe]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

Believe or not, NHL 20 is the most enjoyable hockey game which I have played ever. After some slider tweaks (and maybe player attributes tweaking too) it's even better. I am strictly offline player. And I have played hockey games from the 80s, since Face Off came out for PCs. I have modded NHL games for PCs too (cyberfaces, rosters, AI etc....) NHL 20...It's definitely better than NHL 19. If not perfect, but in my books it's definetely the best hockey game which I have played. Now I am recreating rosters so that overall ratings of NHL players will vary between 40-94 so I get even more out of the game, those revamped rosters needs of course special sliderset.

I see there's some people on this forum who doesn't like the game mostly because it's EA's product. If you are thinking do I have to buy NHL20, don't put too much value on their words. If you like to play hockey offline, I highly recommend NHL20 to you. Yes it has it's downs too, but "feeling" you get by playing it, is better than any NHL game from the 80s till this day. (Yes, if you was interested, I have played 2K8 and 2K10 too)

[jake19ny]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

Believe or not, NHL 20 is the most enjoyable hockey game which I have played ever. After some slider tweaks (and maybe player attributes tweaking too) it's even better. I am strictly offline player. And I have played hockey games from the 80s, since Face Off came out for PCs. I have modded NHL games for PCs too (cyberfaces, rosters, AI etc....) NHL 20...It's definitely better than NHL 19. If not perfect, but in my books it's definetely the best hockey game which I have played. Now I am recreating rosters so that overall ratings of NHL players will vary between 40-94 so I get even more out of the game, those revamped rosters needs of course special sliderset.

I see there's some people on this forum who doesn't like the game mostly because it's EA's product. If you are thinking do I have to buy NHL20, don't put too much value on their words. If you like to play hockey offline, I highly recommend NHL20 to you. Yes it has it's downs too, but "feeling" you get by playing it, is better than any NHL game from the 80s till this day. (Yes, if you was interested, I have played 2K8 and 2K10 too)

This is a good post but I take issue with the idea people who complain about the game only do it because it’s EA and to not take stock in what they say. I’m an old school guy that goes back to the PC days of modding too. I like to read everyone’s take on the game good and bad then play and make my own judgement comparably to those opinions.

I always say there is nothing wrong with liking the game. I have many issues with the game and the direction the series has taken. I have many complaints all legitimate. That said I do agree the offline game plays the best since NHL 14.....so far. I say so far because NHL 19 Beta was fantastic and a few tuners and patches later it was unplayable. My take on NHL 20 is the offline game is pretty good the online game is worse than ever. I fear, as in the past, they will make changes to please the online community and it will destroy the offline game.

The patch and tuner issue is just one legitimate gripe. If you read most complaints from respected longtime players and community members they are complaints about issues plaguing the series for years. Hoping EA addresses these long standing issues rather than add create a mascot, create a team, and arcade gimmick modes is perfectly acceptable and not without merit.

I’m glad people are enjoying it and I may play my first offline season since NHL 14 but it doesn’t mean EAs lack of attention to long standing issues and some lingering poor AI issues is wrong.

[oosterbe]

Re: Impressions a week later since this game has been out?

...Hoping EA addresses these long standing issues rather than add create a mascot, create a team, and arcade gimmick modes is perfectly acceptable and not without merit...

Amen! I especially would like to see more back checking from AI and I would like to see goalies (I mean human controlled team goalie) closing the puck more when getting pressure from opposite team players. I would like to get better tools for defense, for example tools for pinning AI forwards more easily on the board, (especially behind the net situations you have no tools to do anything to them. I like to see more player separation (yeah, I could make it myself by tweaking player attributes, and that's exactly what I am going to do...) And roster sharing... Yeah, you know, it could help a lot to have a such tools for making the game play more realistic.

But I enjoy playing the game anyway. It has some issues, but they didn't ruin the game for me.

[SocialAssassin]

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One of the most idiotic things about this game, and it's a legacy issue, is if one of your penalty killers takes a penalty, it doesn't let you choose which player you want replacing that killer while they're in the box. There should be a pop up initiated when the player takes a penalty and who you want to replace them a la Madden games when your guy is injured and can choose to take a few plays off and return or remove them from the game.

So many times, a defenseman will take a penalty and then the computer trots out a god damned forward to take his spot on the PK. I shouldn't have to pause the game, go change the PKer for one penalty and then have to go and change it back.