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  • phillyfan23
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 2301

    #331
    NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

    Just got the game a few days ago and so far it has been a good experience. I play exclusively offline and I will compare it to NHL 20 where I had great sliders and played the game year round. I will solely focus on gameplay.

    What NHL 21 does better

    1) neutral zone pressure is real, you will be hounded and you just cant waltz in, it was ok in 20, because I had my sliders create sloppy hockey, but this is definitely a significant upgrade.

    2) Less ping pong passing, and the cpu ai will carry the puck more instead overpassing to enter zone which sometimes happens in 20.

    3) Board play is better, more frantic, less suction.

    4) Goalie animations took a step up.
    5) Skating animation more fluid.

    What NHL 20 does better

    1) Defensemen are more involved on offense. They join the rushes more, take a lot more slapshots and the cpu ai forwards would from time to time suck in defenders down low and then pass back to the point for a one timer score. Dmen sometimes even have a breakway , this aspect the series finally got right last year. In 21, unfortunately it took a step back. Less slapshots, less joining rushes, and I still havent seen a one timer from the cpu dmen. This so far has been the biggest flaw of 21. Nhl 21 cpu dmen however do not over pass which is better than 20, but as a whole 20>21 here.


    2) Goalies while having less animations were more lifelike and balanced in terms of save choices. One example is the stick save to corner animation. It was also present in 20, and it was used more appropriately ( slow low risk shot, clear path long distance shots) in 21, it is sometimes used too liberally. 5 hole goals were incredibly done in 20...side to side passing and quick shot bw legs.

    Both games score very high in my eyes, but I will play more games to decide the clear winner.

    Edit: played 4 games in a row just now and cpu dman didnt take ONE slapshot. I have dmen shot tendency at max at team strtegies. Hopefully slidets can fix this but if this is hard coded, it is a definite GAMEBREAKER in terms of gameplay.



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    Last edited by phillyfan23; 01-24-2021, 08:24 AM.

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    • Jatt96
      Rookie
      • Oct 2016
      • 260

      #332
      Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

      How are people not seeing ping pong passing, I have 75 OVR rated 4th liners on Superstar difficulty doing no look, backhand, bullet passes to the slot to the point back to the slot, one touch passing ending with a one timer slap shot.

      It just makes it difficult to believe some of the reviews, it's like I'm playing a completely different game. I've seen the smallest difference in gameplay between 2 years with NHL 20 and 21. If somebody gave me two monitors next beside each other and showed a period on each, I wouldn't be able to tell you which one is 20 or 21.

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      • Steven547
        MVP
        • May 2004
        • 3796

        #333
        Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

        Originally posted by Jatt96
        How are people not seeing ping pong passing, I have 75 OVR rated 4th liners on Superstar difficulty doing no look, backhand, bullet passes to the slot to the point back to the slot, one touch passing ending with a one timer slap shot.

        It just makes it difficult to believe some of the reviews, it's like I'm playing a completely different game. I've seen the smallest difference in gameplay between 2 years with NHL 20 and 21. If somebody gave me two monitors next beside each other and showed a period on each, I wouldn't be able to tell you which one is 20 or 21.
        Agreed. The only other "big" difference is the AI doesn't pass the puck back for no reason. After playing this game, I can honestly say this years version is the most frustrating and annoying.

        I can literally call out what will happen in game. IMO, this game is more scripted this year than last. I was up 1-0 going into the 3rd. I said to myself that the CPU will score 2 goals in the 3rd, I'll tie it up, then they'll win in OT. Sure enough....100% correct.

        Now, the CPU on All Star is playing like a Superstar and extremely aggressive. I would estimate they score the first goal in 9/10 games I've played. Then they go on this aggressive mode and score 2-3 in the first period.

        Something happened after the "updates" or "tuners" that has ruined the game for me. CPU pass accuracy at 0 and they still hit over 85%. Shot accuracy also doesn't matter, because they are hitting the net all over.

        I'm not sure why it's so tough for EA to let the game play according to the player ratings. Maybe they got themselves in too deep a hole with the sliders. But I'm convinced PRO diff favors HUM and All Star favors the CPU. There is no balance.

        Do I like the overall way the game plays? Sure. The CPU plays decent on both sides. But it's the uncanny ability to pass and score at will and the predictable outcomes that has me frustrated with this years version.

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        • phillyfan23
          MVP
          • Feb 2005
          • 2301

          #334
          NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

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          This screen shot is from a game Im currently playing on NHL 20....ive played 4 mins into the 1st period. nyrangers (me) vs Nj Devils cpu...

          They've outshot me 4-1 and ALL their shots so far are by their d-men.

          Ryan Murray has a goal on a wrist shot beating shesterkin and he was in the slot ahead of all of his other teammates. Rare play yes, but it happens in the NHL.( pic below)

          he also one timed a puck from a pass back by a forward from behind the net, 2 more slapshots by dmen thru screens.

          Mind you this is within the 1st 5 minutes of a period, this is what is GREATLY missing in NHL 21.

          Dmen Cpu Ai are significantly nerfed in Nhl 21 in terms of offensive production and creativity. Hope a patch can restore this back to nhl 20 standards.

          Last edited by phillyfan23; 01-26-2021, 09:35 AM.

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          • The EVHL
            Pro
            • Nov 2014
            • 799

            #335
            Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

            I've finally found a slider set that really works whether the speed glitch is happening or not. This game has it's issues (the speed glitch being one) but it is their best attempt this generation. I wish they'd let you change the CPU strats in Franchise mode because this game does so much better when the CPU are aggressive and attack. I've found the CPU keeping it my zone a fair amount in semi-realistic fashion. I wish their forwards would cut and attack a bit more, I wish my AI would stop abandoning their positions and actually playing their man in the zone (man-to-man coverage is desperately needed in this game), but their offense is respectable.
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            • badazzleroybrown
              Rookie
              • May 2013
              • 223

              #336
              Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

              Just got the game waited for a sale I am glad I picked it up. it plays way better than nhl 20 i thought it would be just a roster update i was wrong .

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              • AllIn989
                Rookie
                • Jan 2019
                • 222

                #337
                Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                Originally posted by HipNotiiC_x
                I've finally found a slider set that really works whether the speed glitch is happening or not. This game has it's issues (the speed glitch being one) but it is their best attempt this generation. I wish they'd let you change the CPU strats in Franchise mode because this game does so much better when the CPU are aggressive and attack. I've found the CPU keeping it my zone a fair amount in semi-realistic fashion. I wish their forwards would cut and attack a bit more, I wish my AI would stop abandoning their positions and actually playing their man in the zone (man-to-man coverage is desperately needed in this game), but their offense is respectable.
                Which slider set are you using?

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                • The EVHL
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 799

                  #338
                  Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                  Originally posted by AllIn989
                  Which slider set are you using?
                  My own (which does not match my current post in the sliders section lol).
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                  • Hunkerdown
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5415

                    #339
                    Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                    Got NHL 21 on sale!!! You still rolling AS default 7min?
                    Originally posted by MizzouRah
                    I solely play offline franchise mode on basically AS defaults and have always played that way. I haven't played a game post patch 1.3 but my experience is NHL 21 has the best game play of the series.

                    20 minutes I don't believe works though.. like Madden, I have to lower the minutes (7M) quite a bit like I do with Madden to get realistic stats.
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                    • MizzouRah
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8515

                      #340
                      Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                      Originally posted by Hunkerdown
                      Got NHL 21 on sale!!! You still rolling AS default 7min?

                      PSN: TheGritsBlitz
                      Speed on 2/Penalties and fighting on 4/4 and 2/2 and then in the sliders HUM/CPU penalties on 100/100 and CPU/HUM strategies on 2/6.

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                      • Hunkerdown
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5415

                        #341
                        Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                        Awesome thanks
                        Originally posted by MizzouRah
                        Speed on 2/Penalties and fighting on 4/4 and 2/2 and then in the sliders HUM/CPU penalties on 100/100 and CPU/HUM strategies on 2/6.
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                        • DJ
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 17756

                          #342
                          Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                          It's become more noticeable the lack of shots from the blue line area by the CPU D-men. Anyone else experiencing this and is there anything settings/sliders wise that addresses this?
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                          • ARMORALLL
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 413

                            #343
                            Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                            Does the net ever get knocked off? Been playing since NHL 20 and have never seen this. Used to have it in NHL 94 lol

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                            • The EVHL
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 799

                              #344
                              Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                              Originally posted by ARMORALLL
                              Does the net ever get knocked off? Been playing since NHL 20 and have never seen this. Used to have it in NHL 94 lol
                              It will occasionally but not as much as it used too.
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                              • elfdutch
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 323

                                #345
                                Re: NHL 21 Has Been Released - Share Your Impressions with the Community

                                Haven’t played a hockey game for a while but recently started again with nhl17, last version i bought.

                                How does 21 compare to 17, how much better is it?
                                I only play offline season mode.

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