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  • Flyersfan75
    Rookie
    • Jan 2010
    • 333

    #106
    Re: Armor & Sword's "Average Joe" Pro Level Custom Sliders (Season and Franchise Mode

    Hey, I use your slider set to the T with using VIPHURS rosters, how can i make a game feel like a rivalry game?

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    • rhouserjr0614
      Rookie
      • Jan 2017
      • 491

      #107
      Re: Armor & Sword's "Average Joe" Pro Level Custom Sliders (Season and Franchise Mode

      How much scoring are you seeing with these sliders per game, per User and CPU?

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      • Flyersfan75
        Rookie
        • Jan 2010
        • 333

        #108
        Re: Armor & Sword's "Average Joe" Pro Level Custom Sliders (Season and Franchise Mode

        Originally posted by rhouserjr0614
        How much scoring are you seeing with these sliders per game, per User and CPU?
        average about 5-8 goals per game. what i believe is missing is the intensity.

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        • Flyersfan75
          Rookie
          • Jan 2010
          • 333

          #109
          Re: Armor & Sword's "Average Joe" Pro Level Custom Sliders (Season and Franchise Mode

          Any suggestions??

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          • dowie
            MVP
            • Feb 2005
            • 1986

            #110
            Re: Armor & Sword's "Average Joe" Pro Level Custom Sliders (Season and Franchise Mode

            Armor

            U make any changes to your NHL slider set.

            Passing looks slower in your streams…..in a good way.

            Dowie
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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21780

              #111
              Re: Armor & Sword's "Average Joe" Pro Level Custom Sliders (Season and Franchise Mode

              Originally posted by dowie
              Armor

              U make any changes to your NHL slider set.

              Passing looks slower in your streams…..in a good way.

              Dowie
              My only adjustment is turning down penalties in the postseason for the CPU to 75.

              Everything else is as the OP!

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              • metovics8
                Since '08
                • Dec 2008
                • 586

                #112
                Any suggestions to make the CPU stay back in their zone/coverages? They and my CPU teammates are constantly chasing after the pick carrier and results in no one trying to set up their offense

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                • dowie
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 1986

                  #113
                  Per Armor's request, I am posting these updates.

                  95% of the credit goes to Armor (not many changes from his great slider set).

                  I asked GPT to "button up" some things I was looking for, so GPT gets the rest of the credit.

                  I noted where there are changes.

                  What you'll see:
                  • cpu actually poke checks & uses their sticks on defense rather than just going for the body check
                  • cpu is more creative in offensive zone - lots of passing and defensemen shooting
                  • increase in board battles
                  • increase to missed shots
                  • lots of loose pucks in front of the net / more goal rebounds

                  I've tested these over the span of 8 test regular season franchise games using various matchups. I really am digging what I am seeing.



                  QUICK SETTINGS
                  NHL Experience Authentic
                  Controls Skill Stick
                  Difficulty Pro
                  On Ice Trainer Off

                  RULES

                  Rules NHL
                  Fighting - 2
                  Icing Hybrid Icing
                  Injuries On
                  Offsides Delayed
                  Penalties 4
                  Tie Break 5 min (3 on 3) then shootout
                  Trapezoid Rule On
                  Penalty Time Scaling 3
                  Coincidental Penalty Time Scale 0
                  Post Whistle Rules Authentic


                  GAME SETTINGS
                  Period Length - 7 Minutes
                  Gameplay Presets - Custom
                  Game Style - Custom
                  Rules - NHL
                  Camera - Classic (Users Choice)
                  Goalie Camera - Fixed
                  Shootout Camera - Dynamic Low
                  Away Line Changes Auto
                  Away Shot Aim Aim Assist
                  Home Line Changes Auto
                  Home Shot Aim Aim Assist

                  GAMEPLAY SLIDERS CPU/HUM (if one value same for both)

                  GENERAL

                  Gameplay Version - Latest
                  Attribute Effects - 10
                  Broken Stick Frequency - 35
                  Game Speed - 3
                  Fatigue Effect - 65 (NOW 68)
                  Fatigue Recovery - 47 (NOW 42)
                  Injury Occurrence - 50

                  SKATING

                  Back Skating - 73
                  Puck Carrier Agility - 47
                  Puck Carrier Skating - 55
                  Player Acceleration - 40 (NOW 46)
                  Skating Speed - 38 (NOW 42)
                  Skating Agility - 50 (NOW 44)

                  SHOOTING

                  One Timer Accuracy - 42 (NOW 36)
                  Shot Accuracy - 45 (NOW 38)
                  Shot Power - 40 (NOW 37)
                  Slap Shot Accuracy - 45 (NOW 38)
                  Slap Shot Power - 50 (NOW 46)

                  PASSING

                  Manual Passing - On
                  Pass Assist - 65 (NOW 60)
                  Min Pass Speed - 30
                  Max Pass Speed - 60 (NOW 52)
                  Saucer Pass Speed - 45
                  Pass Accuracy - 0/50
                  Pass Interceptions - 80
                  Pass Reception Ease - 30
                  Reception Reaction Time - 50
                  Puck Control Rating Effect - 65
                  Puck Speed Reception Effect - 60 (NOW 48)
                  Pickup Type Effect - 50 (NOW 46)
                  Bouncing Puck Receptions - 40 (NOW 35)

                  PUCK CONTROL

                  Stick In Physics - Stick, Legs & Body
                  Incidental Contact Puck Loss - Stick, Legs & Body
                  Incidental Stick Contact Immunity - 0
                  Puck Control - 30 (NOW 25)
                  Deking Impact - 50
                  Spin Deke Impact - 60
                  Skating Impact - 0

                  GOALIES

                  Goalie Cover Frequency - 72 (NOW 45)
                  Goalie Passing - 47
                  Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time - 50
                  Goalie Save Reaction Time CPU - 50 (NOW 45)
                  Goalie Deflection Reaction Time - 50 (NOW 45)
                  Goalie Screen Effect CPU - 57 (NOW 50)
                  Goalie Screen Persistence - 60 (NOW 50)

                  CHECKING

                  Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier - 40
                  Board Effect Puck Carrier - 40
                  Hitting Assistance - 40 (NOW 30)
                  Stumble Threshold - 75 (NOW 80)
                  Fall and Stumble Fall Ease - 30
                  Aggression - 50
                  Hitting Power - 15
                  Size Effect - 50
                  Speed Effect - 35
                  Checking/Balance Rating Effect - 85
                  Preparedness Effect - 55
                  Incidental Contact Effect - 70
                  Poke Checking Accuracy - 30 (NOW 40)
                  Poke Checking Power - 65
                  Stick Lift Effectiveness - 70 (NOW 75)


                  PENALTIES

                  CPU Penalties - 90
                  CPU Teammate Penalties - 60 (NOW 90)
                  Tripping - 30
                  Slashing - 20
                  Elbowing - 90
                  High Sticking - 100
                  Cross Checking - 85
                  Boarding - 100
                  Charging - 95
                  Delay of Game - 65
                  Holding - 70
                  Hooking - 85
                  Interference - 90


                  AI

                  AI Learning - 4 (NOW 2)
                  CPU Difficulty Adjustment - 4
                  CPU Faceoff Difficulty - 54
                  Fight Difficulty - 50
                  CPU Strategy Adjustment - 4


                  Audio Visual Settings

                  Auto Zoom - Auto
                  Camera - Classic (Users Choice)
                  Camera Perspective - Prefer Up
                  Goalie camera - Fixed
                  Puck Highlight - Medium
                  Puck Size - Authentic
                  Shootout Camera - Dynamic Low

                  Everything else is turned off except:
                  Player Name
                  Post Goal Overlays
                  Fighting Instructions (if you need them)

                  Volume Settings:

                  Master - 10
                  Coach Calls - 8
                  Arena Announcer - 10
                  Arena Music - 8
                  Commentary - 7
                  Crowd - 9
                  Goal Horn - 9
                  SFX - 10
                  Controller Volume - 10
                  Audio Mix - Users Choice
                  Menu Music - Users Choice

                  On Ice Trainer - everything off
                  Cardinals Nation - For The Lou
                  Always a Tiger - Bless You Boys
                  How can you not be romantic about baseball?

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                  • kamackeris76
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1651

                    #114
                    Originally posted by dowie
                    Per Armor's request, I am posting these updates.

                    95% of the credit goes to Armor (not many changes from his great slider set).

                    I asked GPT to "button up" some things I was looking for, so GPT gets the rest of the credit.

                    I noted where there are changes.

                    What you'll see:
                    • cpu actually poke checks & uses their sticks on defense rather than just going for the body check
                    • cpu is more creative in offensive zone - lots of passing and defensemen shooting
                    • increase in board battles
                    • increase to missed shots
                    • lots of loose pucks in front of the net / more goal rebounds

                    I've tested these over the span of 8 test regular season franchise games using various matchups. I really am digging what I am seeing.



                    QUICK SETTINGS
                    NHL Experience Authentic
                    Controls Skill Stick
                    Difficulty Pro
                    On Ice Trainer Off

                    RULES

                    Rules NHL
                    Fighting - 2
                    Icing Hybrid Icing
                    Injuries On
                    Offsides Delayed
                    Penalties 4
                    Tie Break 5 min (3 on 3) then shootout
                    Trapezoid Rule On
                    Penalty Time Scaling 3
                    Coincidental Penalty Time Scale 0
                    Post Whistle Rules Authentic


                    GAME SETTINGS
                    Period Length - 7 Minutes
                    Gameplay Presets - Custom
                    Game Style - Custom
                    Rules - NHL
                    Camera - Classic (Users Choice)
                    Goalie Camera - Fixed
                    Shootout Camera - Dynamic Low
                    Away Line Changes Auto
                    Away Shot Aim Aim Assist
                    Home Line Changes Auto
                    Home Shot Aim Aim Assist

                    GAMEPLAY SLIDERS CPU/HUM (if one value same for both)

                    GENERAL

                    Gameplay Version - Latest
                    Attribute Effects - 10
                    Broken Stick Frequency - 35
                    Game Speed - 3
                    Fatigue Effect - 65 (NOW 68)
                    Fatigue Recovery - 47 (NOW 42)
                    Injury Occurrence - 50

                    SKATING

                    Back Skating - 73
                    Puck Carrier Agility - 47
                    Puck Carrier Skating - 55
                    Player Acceleration - 40 (NOW 46)
                    Skating Speed - 38 (NOW 42)
                    Skating Agility - 50 (NOW 44)

                    SHOOTING

                    One Timer Accuracy - 42 (NOW 36)
                    Shot Accuracy - 45 (NOW 38)
                    Shot Power - 40 (NOW 37)
                    Slap Shot Accuracy - 45 (NOW 38)
                    Slap Shot Power - 50 (NOW 46)

                    PASSING

                    Manual Passing - On
                    Pass Assist - 65 (NOW 60)
                    Min Pass Speed - 30
                    Max Pass Speed - 60 (NOW 52)
                    Saucer Pass Speed - 45
                    Pass Accuracy - 0/50
                    Pass Interceptions - 80
                    Pass Reception Ease - 30
                    Reception Reaction Time - 50
                    Puck Control Rating Effect - 65
                    Puck Speed Reception Effect - 60 (NOW 48)
                    Pickup Type Effect - 50 (NOW 46)
                    Bouncing Puck Receptions - 40 (NOW 35)

                    PUCK CONTROL

                    Stick In Physics - Stick, Legs & Body
                    Incidental Contact Puck Loss - Stick, Legs & Body
                    Incidental Stick Contact Immunity - 0
                    Puck Control - 30 (NOW 25)
                    Deking Impact - 50
                    Spin Deke Impact - 60
                    Skating Impact - 0

                    GOALIES

                    Goalie Cover Frequency - 72 (NOW 45)
                    Goalie Passing - 47
                    Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time - 50
                    Goalie Save Reaction Time CPU - 50 (NOW 45)
                    Goalie Deflection Reaction Time - 50 (NOW 45)
                    Goalie Screen Effect CPU - 57 (NOW 50)
                    Goalie Screen Persistence - 60 (NOW 50)

                    CHECKING

                    Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier - 40
                    Board Effect Puck Carrier - 40
                    Hitting Assistance - 40 (NOW 30)
                    Stumble Threshold - 75 (NOW 80)
                    Fall and Stumble Fall Ease - 30
                    Aggression - 50
                    Hitting Power - 15
                    Size Effect - 50
                    Speed Effect - 35
                    Checking/Balance Rating Effect - 85
                    Preparedness Effect - 55
                    Incidental Contact Effect - 70
                    Poke Checking Accuracy - 30 (NOW 40)
                    Poke Checking Power - 65
                    Stick Lift Effectiveness - 70 (NOW 75)


                    PENALTIES

                    CPU Penalties - 90
                    CPU Teammate Penalties - 60 (NOW 90)
                    Tripping - 30
                    Slashing - 20
                    Elbowing - 90
                    High Sticking - 100
                    Cross Checking - 85
                    Boarding - 100
                    Charging - 95
                    Delay of Game - 65
                    Holding - 70
                    Hooking - 85
                    Interference - 90


                    AI

                    AI Learning - 4 (NOW 2)
                    CPU Difficulty Adjustment - 4
                    CPU Faceoff Difficulty - 54
                    Fight Difficulty - 50
                    CPU Strategy Adjustment - 4


                    Audio Visual Settings

                    Auto Zoom - Auto
                    Camera - Classic (Users Choice)
                    Camera Perspective - Prefer Up
                    Goalie camera - Fixed
                    Puck Highlight - Medium
                    Puck Size - Authentic
                    Shootout Camera - Dynamic Low

                    Everything else is turned off except:
                    Player Name
                    Post Goal Overlays
                    Fighting Instructions (if you need them)

                    Volume Settings:

                    Master - 10
                    Coach Calls - 8
                    Arena Announcer - 10
                    Arena Music - 8
                    Commentary - 7
                    Crowd - 9
                    Goal Horn - 9
                    SFX - 10
                    Controller Volume - 10
                    Audio Mix - Users Choice
                    Menu Music - Users Choice

                    On Ice Trainer - everything off
                    So the new values are in brackets yes?


                    Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk

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                    • Fiddy
                      Twitch/YouTube: Fiddy14
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 12639

                      #115
                      Originally posted by dowie
                      I asked GPT to "button up" some things I was looking for, so GPT gets the rest of the credit.
                      I had "Grok" make me a set of "Authentic" NHL 25 Sliders a month or so back. I plugged them in and was pleasantly surprised how they played honestly. Few things that I for sure never would had adjusted personally and the funny thing is it was like a breathe of fresh air and made the few games I played a tad enjoyable.
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                      • dowie
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 1986

                        #116
                        Originally posted by kamackeris76
                        So the new values are in brackets yes?


                        Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
                        For me and my style of play, yes.
                        Cardinals Nation - For The Lou
                        Always a Tiger - Bless You Boys
                        How can you not be romantic about baseball?

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                        • icvu42
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 220

                          #117
                          Originally posted by dowie
                          Per Armor's request, I am posting these updates.

                          95% of the credit goes to Armor (not many changes from his great slider set).

                          I asked GPT to "button up" some things I was looking for, so GPT gets the rest of the credit.

                          I noted where there are changes.

                          What you'll see:
                          • cpu actually poke checks & uses their sticks on defense rather than just going for the body check
                          • cpu is more creative in offensive zone - lots of passing and defensemen shooting
                          • increase in board battles
                          • increase to missed shots
                          • lots of loose pucks in front of the net / more goal rebounds

                          I've tested these over the span of 8 test regular season franchise games using various matchups. I really am digging what I am seeing.



                          QUICK SETTINGS
                          NHL Experience Authentic
                          Controls Skill Stick
                          Difficulty Pro
                          On Ice Trainer Off

                          RULES

                          Rules NHL
                          Fighting - 2
                          Icing Hybrid Icing
                          Injuries On
                          Offsides Delayed
                          Penalties 4
                          Tie Break 5 min (3 on 3) then shootout
                          Trapezoid Rule On
                          Penalty Time Scaling 3
                          Coincidental Penalty Time Scale 0
                          Post Whistle Rules Authentic


                          GAME SETTINGS
                          Period Length - 7 Minutes
                          Gameplay Presets - Custom
                          Game Style - Custom
                          Rules - NHL
                          Camera - Classic (Users Choice)
                          Goalie Camera - Fixed
                          Shootout Camera - Dynamic Low
                          Away Line Changes Auto
                          Away Shot Aim Aim Assist
                          Home Line Changes Auto
                          Home Shot Aim Aim Assist

                          GAMEPLAY SLIDERS CPU/HUM (if one value same for both)

                          GENERAL

                          Gameplay Version - Latest
                          Attribute Effects - 10
                          Broken Stick Frequency - 35
                          Game Speed - 3
                          Fatigue Effect - 65 (NOW 68)
                          Fatigue Recovery - 47 (NOW 42)
                          Injury Occurrence - 50

                          SKATING

                          Back Skating - 73
                          Puck Carrier Agility - 47
                          Puck Carrier Skating - 55
                          Player Acceleration - 40 (NOW 46)
                          Skating Speed - 38 (NOW 42)
                          Skating Agility - 50 (NOW 44)

                          SHOOTING

                          One Timer Accuracy - 42 (NOW 36)
                          Shot Accuracy - 45 (NOW 38)
                          Shot Power - 40 (NOW 37)
                          Slap Shot Accuracy - 45 (NOW 38)
                          Slap Shot Power - 50 (NOW 46)

                          PASSING

                          Manual Passing - On
                          Pass Assist - 65 (NOW 60)
                          Min Pass Speed - 30
                          Max Pass Speed - 60 (NOW 52)
                          Saucer Pass Speed - 45
                          Pass Accuracy - 0/50
                          Pass Interceptions - 80
                          Pass Reception Ease - 30
                          Reception Reaction Time - 50
                          Puck Control Rating Effect - 65
                          Puck Speed Reception Effect - 60 (NOW 48)
                          Pickup Type Effect - 50 (NOW 46)
                          Bouncing Puck Receptions - 40 (NOW 35)

                          PUCK CONTROL

                          Stick In Physics - Stick, Legs & Body
                          Incidental Contact Puck Loss - Stick, Legs & Body
                          Incidental Stick Contact Immunity - 0
                          Puck Control - 30 (NOW 25)
                          Deking Impact - 50
                          Spin Deke Impact - 60
                          Skating Impact - 0

                          GOALIES

                          Goalie Cover Frequency - 72 (NOW 45)
                          Goalie Passing - 47
                          Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time - 50
                          Goalie Save Reaction Time CPU - 50 (NOW 45)
                          Goalie Deflection Reaction Time - 50 (NOW 45)
                          Goalie Screen Effect CPU - 57 (NOW 50)
                          Goalie Screen Persistence - 60 (NOW 50)

                          CHECKING

                          Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier - 40
                          Board Effect Puck Carrier - 40
                          Hitting Assistance - 40 (NOW 30)
                          Stumble Threshold - 75 (NOW 80)
                          Fall and Stumble Fall Ease - 30
                          Aggression - 50
                          Hitting Power - 15
                          Size Effect - 50
                          Speed Effect - 35
                          Checking/Balance Rating Effect - 85
                          Preparedness Effect - 55
                          Incidental Contact Effect - 70
                          Poke Checking Accuracy - 30 (NOW 40)
                          Poke Checking Power - 65
                          Stick Lift Effectiveness - 70 (NOW 75)


                          PENALTIES

                          CPU Penalties - 90
                          CPU Teammate Penalties - 60 (NOW 90)
                          Tripping - 30
                          Slashing - 20
                          Elbowing - 90
                          High Sticking - 100
                          Cross Checking - 85
                          Boarding - 100
                          Charging - 95
                          Delay of Game - 65
                          Holding - 70
                          Hooking - 85
                          Interference - 90


                          AI

                          AI Learning - 4 (NOW 2)
                          CPU Difficulty Adjustment - 4
                          CPU Faceoff Difficulty - 54
                          Fight Difficulty - 50
                          CPU Strategy Adjustment - 4


                          Audio Visual Settings

                          Auto Zoom - Auto
                          Camera - Classic (Users Choice)
                          Camera Perspective - Prefer Up
                          Goalie camera - Fixed
                          Puck Highlight - Medium
                          Puck Size - Authentic
                          Shootout Camera - Dynamic Low

                          Everything else is turned off except:
                          Player Name
                          Post Goal Overlays
                          Fighting Instructions (if you need them)

                          Volume Settings:

                          Master - 10
                          Coach Calls - 8
                          Arena Announcer - 10
                          Arena Music - 8
                          Commentary - 7
                          Crowd - 9
                          Goal Horn - 9
                          SFX - 10
                          Controller Volume - 10
                          Audio Mix - Users Choice
                          Menu Music - Users Choice

                          On Ice Trainer - everything off
                          I am curious as to why you dropped AI learning down to 2. Wouldn't that make it easier to beat the CPU?

                          Rick

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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21780

                            #118
                            Originally posted by icvu42

                            I am curious as to why you dropped AI learning down to 2. Wouldn't that make it easier to beat the CPU?

                            Rick
                            Ask Chat GPT....that's where he got these tweaks from.
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                            • dowie
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 1986

                              #119
                              Originally posted by icvu42

                              I am curious as to why you dropped AI learning down to 2. Wouldn't that make it easier to beat the CPU?

                              Rick
                              Higher AI Learning = cpu acting more "arcadey".
                              Cardinals Nation - For The Lou
                              Always a Tiger - Bless You Boys
                              How can you not be romantic about baseball?

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