which game will have better presentation?

**coyotes29** · 09-04-2003, 06:15 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

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HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

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That is the most inteligent post I have heard yet. Way to sock it to the espn lovers.

**Crucial Mike** · 09-04-2003, 07:25 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

They look to be both great games. A lot of it depends on personal preference however.

In the end, I want a realistic game of hockey that looks nice as well. The only troublesome thing I've heard about NHL so far is that it's supposedly a hit-fest with bodies flying everywhere. This has to be a negative point if you're into a really realistic game. Other then that, it looks great.

I'm going with ESPN

**Crucial Mike** · 09-04-2003, 07:25 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

They look to be both great games. A lot of it depends on personal preference however.

In the end, I want a realistic game of hockey that looks nice as well. The only troublesome thing I've heard about NHL so far is that it's supposedly a hit-fest with bodies flying everywhere. This has to be a negative point if you're into a really realistic game. Other then that, it looks great.

I'm going with ESPN

**Crucial Mike** · 09-04-2003, 07:25 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

They look to be both great games. A lot of it depends on personal preference however.

In the end, I want a realistic game of hockey that looks nice as well. The only troublesome thing I've heard about NHL so far is that it's supposedly a hit-fest with bodies flying everywhere. This has to be a negative point if you're into a really realistic game. Other then that, it looks great.

I'm going with ESPN

**WAZ** · 09-05-2003, 02:34 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

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HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>
He wasn't asking about AI and gameplay -- see the thread title.

That said, ESPN has the superior presentation in almost every aspect, IMO. If it's not in yours, then that's fine, but don't stoop to saying ESPN looks like PS1 graphics. That's just sad, man.

As for the gameplay, well, the games aren't out yet so we don't know for sure. But EVERY SINGLE REVIEW for EA has said that the AI is a bit spotty and the hitting is out of control (overwhelmingly aggressive AI checking to make up for positioning to make it more challenging).

And I DO happen to have a final build of ESPN in my hands, and it plays incredibly. It will take an absolute MIRACLE if EA's plays better than this.

Yes, EA has the new management mode -- no one's denying that is a great addition. But no, the on-ice AI and physics simply DO NOT match up to ESPN's.

And PS -- does it make sense to say "ESPN has horrible PS1-style graphics" and then say, "EA will have the better game; don't be fooled by ESPN's graphics" (referencing the fact that ESPN might just have great graphics?)

Didn't make sense to me...

**WAZ** · 09-05-2003, 02:34 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>
He wasn't asking about AI and gameplay -- see the thread title.

That said, ESPN has the superior presentation in almost every aspect, IMO. If it's not in yours, then that's fine, but don't stoop to saying ESPN looks like PS1 graphics. That's just sad, man.

As for the gameplay, well, the games aren't out yet so we don't know for sure. But EVERY SINGLE REVIEW for EA has said that the AI is a bit spotty and the hitting is out of control (overwhelmingly aggressive AI checking to make up for positioning to make it more challenging).

And I DO happen to have a final build of ESPN in my hands, and it plays incredibly. It will take an absolute MIRACLE if EA's plays better than this.

Yes, EA has the new management mode -- no one's denying that is a great addition. But no, the on-ice AI and physics simply DO NOT match up to ESPN's.

And PS -- does it make sense to say "ESPN has horrible PS1-style graphics" and then say, "EA will have the better game; don't be fooled by ESPN's graphics" (referencing the fact that ESPN might just have great graphics?)

Didn't make sense to me...

**WAZ** · 09-05-2003, 02:34 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>
He wasn't asking about AI and gameplay -- see the thread title.

That said, ESPN has the superior presentation in almost every aspect, IMO. If it's not in yours, then that's fine, but don't stoop to saying ESPN looks like PS1 graphics. That's just sad, man.

As for the gameplay, well, the games aren't out yet so we don't know for sure. But EVERY SINGLE REVIEW for EA has said that the AI is a bit spotty and the hitting is out of control (overwhelmingly aggressive AI checking to make up for positioning to make it more challenging).

And I DO happen to have a final build of ESPN in my hands, and it plays incredibly. It will take an absolute MIRACLE if EA's plays better than this.

Yes, EA has the new management mode -- no one's denying that is a great addition. But no, the on-ice AI and physics simply DO NOT match up to ESPN's.

And PS -- does it make sense to say "ESPN has horrible PS1-style graphics" and then say, "EA will have the better game; don't be fooled by ESPN's graphics" (referencing the fact that ESPN might just have great graphics?)

Didn't make sense to me...

**snowmizer** · 09-05-2003, 02:52 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

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coyotes29 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>

That is the most inteligent post I have heard yet. Way to sock it to the espn lovers.

<hr /></blockquote>

Looks like there are at least two people in this thread who are 'comfused'.

**snowmizer** · 09-05-2003, 02:52 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
coyotes29 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>

That is the most inteligent post I have heard yet. Way to sock it to the espn lovers.

<hr /></blockquote>

Looks like there are at least two people in this thread who are 'comfused'.

**snowmizer** · 09-05-2003, 02:52 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
coyotes29 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>

That is the most inteligent post I have heard yet. Way to sock it to the espn lovers.

<hr /></blockquote>

Looks like there are at least two people in this thread who are 'comfused'.

**coyotes29** · 09-05-2003, 03:21 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
WAZ said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>
He wasn't asking about AI and gameplay -- see the thread title.

That said, ESPN has the superior presentation in almost every aspect, IMO. If it's not in yours, then that's fine, but don't stoop to saying ESPN looks like PS1 graphics. That's just sad, man.

As for the gameplay, well, the games aren't out yet so we don't know for sure. But EVERY SINGLE REVIEW for EA has said that the AI is a bit spotty and the hitting is out of control (overwhelmingly aggressive AI checking to make up for positioning to make it more challenging).

And I DO happen to have a final build of ESPN in my hands, and it plays incredibly. It will take an absolute MIRACLE if EA's plays better than this.

Yes, EA has the new management mode -- no one's denying that is a great addition. But no, the on-ice AI and physics simply DO NOT match up to ESPN's.

And PS -- does it make sense to say "ESPN has horrible PS1-style graphics" and then say, "EA will have the better game; don't be fooled by ESPN's graphics" (referencing the fact that ESPN might just have great graphics?)

Didn't make sense to me...

<hr /></blockquote>

Please read gamespots updated impressions of nhl2004. They comment on nhl2004 great A.I for defence and offence.They also said it's simulation through and through,and the hitting is satifying.

**coyotes29** · 09-05-2003, 03:21 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

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WAZ said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>
He wasn't asking about AI and gameplay -- see the thread title.

That said, ESPN has the superior presentation in almost every aspect, IMO. If it's not in yours, then that's fine, but don't stoop to saying ESPN looks like PS1 graphics. That's just sad, man.

As for the gameplay, well, the games aren't out yet so we don't know for sure. But EVERY SINGLE REVIEW for EA has said that the AI is a bit spotty and the hitting is out of control (overwhelmingly aggressive AI checking to make up for positioning to make it more challenging).

And I DO happen to have a final build of ESPN in my hands, and it plays incredibly. It will take an absolute MIRACLE if EA's plays better than this.

Yes, EA has the new management mode -- no one's denying that is a great addition. But no, the on-ice AI and physics simply DO NOT match up to ESPN's.

And PS -- does it make sense to say "ESPN has horrible PS1-style graphics" and then say, "EA will have the better game; don't be fooled by ESPN's graphics" (referencing the fact that ESPN might just have great graphics?)

Didn't make sense to me...

<hr /></blockquote>

Please read gamespots updated impressions of nhl2004. They comment on nhl2004 great A.I for defence and offence.They also said it's simulation through and through,and the hitting is satifying.

**coyotes29** · 09-05-2003, 03:21 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
WAZ said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>
He wasn't asking about AI and gameplay -- see the thread title.

That said, ESPN has the superior presentation in almost every aspect, IMO. If it's not in yours, then that's fine, but don't stoop to saying ESPN looks like PS1 graphics. That's just sad, man.

As for the gameplay, well, the games aren't out yet so we don't know for sure. But EVERY SINGLE REVIEW for EA has said that the AI is a bit spotty and the hitting is out of control (overwhelmingly aggressive AI checking to make up for positioning to make it more challenging).

And I DO happen to have a final build of ESPN in my hands, and it plays incredibly. It will take an absolute MIRACLE if EA's plays better than this.

Yes, EA has the new management mode -- no one's denying that is a great addition. But no, the on-ice AI and physics simply DO NOT match up to ESPN's.

And PS -- does it make sense to say "ESPN has horrible PS1-style graphics" and then say, "EA will have the better game; don't be fooled by ESPN's graphics" (referencing the fact that ESPN might just have great graphics?)

Didn't make sense to me...

<hr /></blockquote>

Please read gamespots updated impressions of nhl2004. They comment on nhl2004 great A.I for defence and offence.They also said it's simulation through and through,and the hitting is satifying.

**coyotes29** · 09-05-2003, 03:27 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
snowmizer said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
coyotes29 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>

That is the most inteligent post I have heard yet. Way to sock it to the espn lovers.

<hr /></blockquote>

Looks like there are at least two people in this thread who are 'comfused'.

<hr /></blockquote>

More like your confused! I said in a above thread that espn2k4 has what looks to be better presentation. I was only comenting WAz'S comment.He is the one that was stating about A.I and visuals.
For the record. EA does have greatly improved A.I.

**coyotes29** · 09-05-2003, 03:27 PM

Re: which game will have better presentation?

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snowmizer said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
coyotes29 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HomeyB said:
it seems that many people look at the wrong part of these two games...if i want to play a videogame of hockey, i want to play the game that looks best when i am actually playing the game, not when there are cutscenes or the stat boxes...NHL 2004 have MUCH MUCH MUCH!! better graphics than NHL 2k4...people could comfuse nhl 2k4 for PS1....the complaint last year between the two games was that nhl 2k3 was more realistic with scoring, the AI, and the manangement point with drafting, scouting etc. well this year EA has added an amzing management mode, just as good, if not better than Sega's, and they have improved the AI..scoring will be harder, and the games will be more realistic...EA is the better game, dont be fooled by the ESPN graphics

<hr /></blockquote>

That is the most inteligent post I have heard yet. Way to sock it to the espn lovers.

<hr /></blockquote>

Looks like there are at least two people in this thread who are 'comfused'.

<hr /></blockquote>

More like your confused! I said in a above thread that espn2k4 has what looks to be better presentation. I was only comenting WAz'S comment.He is the one that was stating about A.I and visuals.
For the record. EA does have greatly improved A.I.

which game will have better presentation?

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