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  • Kobalt
    All Star
    • May 2010
    • 9674

    #661
    Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

    Its going to be fascinating to see financial terms of Weber's offer sheet. Hearing in one calendar year, he could make $26 mil.


    Yep, probably front loaded.

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    • skydog71
      MVP
      • Jul 2004
      • 1772

      #662
      Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by DrJones
      Very possible. Though there's a rumour that the Preds were talking trade with both Philly and Vancouver, and that Weber & Holmgren grew frustrated with how slowly the talks were going...
      I heard the same rumors, but the only reason the Preds were trying to trade Weber was because they couldn't get him to agree to a long-term contract. If the Preds match, the reason for trading Weber goes away. And now that I've had time to think about it, I don't know how the Preds couldn't match. They had money set aside to sign both Weber & Suter. Now that Suter is gone, what else are the Preds going to do with that money?

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      • DrJones
        All Star
        • Mar 2003
        • 9109

        #663
        Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by skydog71
        I heard the same rumors, but the only reason the Preds were trying to trade Weber was because they couldn't get him to agree to a long-term contract. If the Preds match, the reason for trading Weber goes away. And now that I've had time to think about it, I don't know how the Preds couldn't match. They had money set aside to sign both Weber & Suter. Now that Suter is gone, what else are the Preds going to do with that money?
        Depends if Weber is really willing to stay in Nashville or not. Remember that Pronger and Heatley both demanded trades shortly after signing big-money contracts. If the Preds are looking at paying 26M for one year of Weber while he poisons the locker room...
        Originally posted by Thrash13
        Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
        Originally posted by slickdtc
        DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
        Originally posted by Kipnis22
        yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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        • IlliniM1ke
          Heroes Never Die
          • Feb 2003
          • 8082

          #664
          Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by Kobalt
          Preds will get 4 1st from Philly if they don't match. Watch Nashville offer sheets Voracek now.
          Dreger tweeted that it might actually be 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd but it depends on the aav.

          Going to be interesting, I can live with Suter and Weber out of the division for sure but I feel for Preds fans, losing both of them in one offseason would be brutal.
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          • Kobalt
            All Star
            • May 2010
            • 9674

            #665
            Originally posted by CardsFan27
            Dreger tweeted that it might actually be 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd but it depends on the aav.

            Going to be interesting, I can live with Suter and Weber out of the division for sure but I feel for Preds fans, losing both of them in one offseason would be brutal.
            It's 4 1sts. It's total value of contract divided by maximum of 5 years. So 100/5 in this case and it exceeds 7.8M or whatever that value is.

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            • BlueNGold
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 21817

              #666
              Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

              The Preds could still trade Weber within these next 7 days, so this might get even more interesting.

              Ballsy move by Philly though.
              Originally posted by bradtxmale
              I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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              • DrJones
                All Star
                • Mar 2003
                • 9109

                #667
                Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by BlueNGold
                The Preds could still trade Weber within these next 7 days, so this might get even more interesting.
                Nope, I don't believe there is a trade window once an RFA has signed an offer sheet. It's either match the offer or take the draft pics. Also, if Nashville decide to retain Weber's services, they can't trade him to Philly (or anyone else) until 365 days have passed.
                Originally posted by Thrash13
                Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                Originally posted by slickdtc
                DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                Originally posted by Kipnis22
                yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                • Money99
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 12696

                  #668
                  Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                  This offer should lay to rest any concern there won't be a 2012-2013 season.
                  Craig Leipold and Ed Snyder are two high-ranking owners among the 30 NHL clubs.

                  If those two guys are approving deals like Suter/Parise and Weber, then the NHL will probably be happy with a similar CBA but with minor tweaks (53/47 split - in favor of the players, and less revenue sharing with weaker clubs).

                  I don't know how Bettman goes into negotiations with a straight face after these deals were made.
                  And Leipold, who is supposed to be sitting in on the meetings, sure doesn't have much of a leg to stand on.

                  I have a feeling the next CBA will be signed and delivered well before October 1st.

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                  • BunnyHardaway
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 15195

                    #669
                    Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                    VICTORY

                    I know it's 4 first rounders but VICTORY

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                    • slickdtc
                      Grayscale
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 17125

                      #670
                      Lol. The price is steep, but this is a move that puts us over the top. Besides, Cup > 4 first rounders. But we gotta ****ing win it!
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                      • BlueNGold
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 21817

                        #671
                        Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by DrJones
                        Nope, I don't believe there is a trade window once an RFA has signed an offer sheet. It's either match the offer or take the draft pics. Also, if Nashville decide to retain Weber's services, they can't trade him to Philly (or anyone else) until 365 days have passed.
                        Oh, nevermind. I read it in the TSN article, but I just checked again and they took that part out.
                        Originally posted by bradtxmale
                        I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                        • BunnyHardaway
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 15195

                          #672
                          Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                          Not sure this is true, but word is that Weber would be paid $26 million the first year, which is 16% of the Predators franchise net worth. Can they really afford to match that?

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                          • jyoung
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11132

                            #673
                            Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                            This actually seems like good news for Nashville. Their GM David Poile has already stated several times in the past weeks that he would match any offer sheet for Weber. Last time I checked, Nashville had around $30 million in cap space for the upcoming season, so money shouldn't be an issue for them.

                            And if Weber doesn't want to come back to Nashville, the team will still get a huge return for him with tons of high draft picks.

                            Either way, it seems like a win for the team.
                            Last edited by jyoung; 07-19-2012, 10:12 AM.

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                            • rdnk
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 5730

                              #674
                              Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                              I don't see how Nashville doesn't match. 4 late 1sts is a paltry return for Weber. They need to get to the floor somehow anyways and I imagine that they will be able to afford him, with revenue sharing and the like. As Weber ages, his cap hit becomes greater than his actual salary, which is gold for the Preds. So they just have to weather a year or two and then they are set. I'd almost say that this plays into the Preds hands.

                              I believe it is 27 M. A 13 M signing bonus, a 1 M salary and then another 13 M bonus once the next year begins. So in 12 months, they will have to dish out that kind of money.
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                              • ImTellinTim
                                YNWA
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 33028

                                #675
                                Re: The Official NHL 2012 Off-Season Thread

                                This is the NHL version of posting an "in before the lock" gif.

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