The Official 2016-17 Regular Season Talk Thread

[75 58 47 old school]

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There will be interest considering his pedigree and resume in the league. But a roster swap or anything of a position player trade is unlikely to me. He'd be in CGY already, had they not been so high in the draft order, but w/ Murray on the shelf, it was a nice problem to have. But picking up Conlin(sp?) sent a tenor that Fleury is not long term, even as backup here. But DuPuis contract on exempt, and Kunitz being near term, MAF could be afforded, but that's too much to pay for a net, especially here (87,71,58 etc.). Ideally he will be moved for picks and prospects.

[Money99]

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Not much of a surprise,especially with expansion draft in 8 months. However, market will be very small for him I'd imagine. Whoever deals for him has to be OK with leaving whatever goalie is his backup, unprotected in the draft. While many backups aren't gonna be missed awhole lot, the amount a team would give up for Fleury will be a lot to begin with, so I'm sure they won't want to lose what is likely a young goalie for nothing.

How will MAF's limited no-movement clause affect the expansion draft?
It was my understanding that the Pens will have to protect him.

Knowing the Pens have a gun to their head, I don't see them getting much for MAF. May even have to pay someone to take him off their hands.

[Majingir]

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Not sure about limited nmc, but full nmc are auto protected unless the player waives it. NTC don't protect guys at all.

[ChubbyD]

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Tough to watch hockey with baseball playoffs on. Really tough. I look forward to being able to devote more attention though after the World Series. Pissed that I missed this crazy Leafs/Jets game. Red Wings/Rangers was great too from what I heard.

The Red Wings/Rangers was great if you are not a fan of either team. From the Wings perspective, they absolutely stole one -- rather Jimmy Howard stole one. Their zone exits were painful to watch, they gave up breakaways and 2 on 0's on the power play (!!), and generated a few, but very few, quality scoring chances and O-zone pressure.

If you're a Rangers fan, well, it's tough to dominate and lose a game like that. So. Many. Chances.

[75 58 47 old school]

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How will MAF's limited no-movement clause affect the expansion draft?
It was my understanding that the Pens will have to protect him.

Knowing the Pens have a gun to their head, I don't see them getting much for MAF. May even have to pay someone to take him off their hands.

They may have to, if he's on the roster at the time of the draft. They picked up the kid who played in MTL last year to backup right now, so how many goalies can they afford? Fleury will likely be moved in season, or traded somewhere; to either be drafted by Vegas, or to compensate for that team's expansion loss of goalie.

Biggest question is if a limited NMC is as protective of the player's roster spot as a full NMC, per draft guidelines. I'm really not sure.

[Majingir]

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Teams I could see interested in Fleury:
Canes(Lack is just a backup and Wards time is coming to an end soon)

Stars(Neither of their goalies are anything special,and are both overpaid. Maybe one of those guys gets thrown in as part of the deal as salary dumps. So either Vegas takes one of them,or Pens just on the hook for 1 year of their contract)

[75 58 47 old school]

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Teams I could see interested in Fleury:
Canes(Lack is just a backup and Wards time is coming to an end soon)

Stars(Neither of their goalies are anything special,and are both overpaid. Maybe one of those guys gets thrown in as part of the deal as salary dumps. So either Vegas takes one of them,or Pens just on the hook for 1 year of their contract)

Doubt Pens will pick up salary, as they are already up against it, and Dallas has, yes expensive goalies, that's about all I can say for them. And can't share a net. So there's that.

Don't know who is on Fleury's NMC, as far as his "no" list of teams. And Rutherford won't move him, if he doesn't like the deal. But I would be surprised if they swapped for a backup, since Tristian Jarrie(sp?) is the next in line to support Pens' starter, whomever it is. They are deep in net right now, and have unproven, but very talented young keepers, so it's going to be interesting to see what JR is looking for, as far as return, if he is shopping MAF.

[bcruise]

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Nail Yakupov scores for the Blues in the first game vs. his former team, Edmonton.

[Kobalt]

The Official 2016-17 Regular Season Talk Thread

Nail Yakupov scores for the Blues in the first game vs. his former team, Edmonton.

Happiest I've seen him in Edmonton

Lucic sucks, which makes me happy

[gopher_guy]

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3 straight for the Wild after dropping the opener. Still feels like they're trying to find their groove under Boudreau.

Staal has been really impressing me.

[Money99]

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Happiest I've seen him in Edmonton

Lucic sucks, which makes me happy

Boomer Gordon put it perfectly last night on XM.
I'm paraphrasing, but he said all the top-end talent Edmonton has drafted over the years is like pouring pure, clean water into a dirty glass.
Edmonton is a tire-fire of an organization. I would have loved to see what Nails could have done if he started his career with a well-run organization (see any franchise not named the Edmonton Oilers and Detroit Lions).

[ImTellinTim]

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3 straight for the Wild after dropping the opener. Still feels like they're trying to find their groove under Boudreau.

Staal has been really impressing me.

In a game that featured Auston Matthews, the player that went end-to-end to score a ridiculous goal was.....Zac Dalpe??

Also, Joel Eriksson Ek is in Iowa and scored in his first game. He'll be called up very soon.

[Majingir]

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Nice night of hockey ahead, Leafs-Hawks and Habs-Bruins on hockey night in Canada!

I hope the young guys are paying attention tonight, cause the Hawks are what leafs fans hope the leafs core ends up like. Matthews-Marner being our Toews-Kane. Toews taken 3rd in 06, Kane 1st in 07,both debuted in 07-08 season, Hawks turned things around in such a short time. Leafs don't expect an instant turnaround, but would be nice to follow that path. Marner 4th in 15, Matthews 1st in 16, both debut in 16-17 season.

[DrJones]

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Following up on Majingir's post, the top headline on TSN.ca at this moment is, "Will the Leafs become the new Blackhawks?" Hey, why stop with a parade when you can plan a dynasty instead?

I like what Toronto is doing and think they have a bright future, but cool your jets, kids. I want to like this Leafs team going forward, but apparently TSN and Sportsnet intend on making that very difficult for me.

[Majingir]

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Isn't that the reason most people hate them already? Even before they started sucking 10 years ago, when they were a playoff team, SN/TSN still did nothing but talk about them. They're the Knicks of the NHL.


After the HNIC ratings tank from last year, SN especially will be hyping up Leafs 24/7. NHL as a whole needs Leafs to succeed to really increase revenue. Leafs as a playoff team brings in so much money from ticket sales and especially TV ads. NHL is the one league which actually cares about canadian TV ratings, and an NHL playoffs with the Leafs in it would draw like 4M+ viewers consistently.

Not to mention the NHL needs those media stars too. Like I mentioned a number of posts back, while NHL does have ones like Crosby,Ovechkin,Stamkos,Toews and stuff, none are in Canadian markets. Matthews,McDavid getting the hype that they do from the Canadian media will make these guys the 2 most profitable stars for the NHL. Matthews already has one of most bought jerseys in the league.