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  • Psyblast
    2023 National Champions
    • Jun 2003
    • 42582

    #376
    Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

    Ahh yes, the beautiful game.

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    • Kobalt
      All Star
      • May 2010
      • 9674

      #377
      Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

      What the **** did I just witness in Dallas

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      • Kobalt
        All Star
        • May 2010
        • 9674

        #378
        Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

        What the **** did I just witness in Dallas

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        • DrJones
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 9107

          #379
          Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

          Originally posted by Kobalt
          What the **** did I just witness in Dallas
          The greatest last-minute comeback in NHL history?
          Originally posted by Thrash13
          Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
          Originally posted by slickdtc
          DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
          Originally posted by Kipnis22
          yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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          • DrJones
            All Star
            • Mar 2003
            • 9107

            #380
            Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

            Originally posted by Kobalt
            What the **** did I just witness in Dallas
            The greatest last-minute comeback in NHL history?
            Originally posted by Thrash13
            Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
            Originally posted by slickdtc
            DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
            Originally posted by Kipnis22
            yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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            • Psyblast
              2023 National Champions
              • Jun 2003
              • 42582

              #381
              Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

              Has that ever happened before? THREE goals in the final minute to tie it??

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              • Psyblast
                2023 National Champions
                • Jun 2003
                • 42582

                #382
                Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                Has that ever happened before? THREE goals in the final minute to tie it??

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                • DrJones
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 9107

                  #383
                  Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                  Originally posted by Psyblast
                  Has that ever happened before? THREE goals in the final minute to tie it??
                  No. Although there have been 2 instances in NHL history where a team was trailing by 2 in the last minute and scored 3 in regulation to win it.

                  NHL Gamecenter - Montreal Maroons vs. New York Rangers, Mar 15, 1932 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.


                  NHL Gamecenter - Boston Bruins vs. Dallas Stars, Oct 14, 1995 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
                  Originally posted by Thrash13
                  Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                  Originally posted by slickdtc
                  DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                  Originally posted by Kipnis22
                  yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                  • Majingir
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 47439

                    #384
                    Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                    Just as crazy, Stars also had an empty net goal too. So not only did Canucks tie in when down 3 with a minute to go, they did so while also conceding an empty net goal already too.

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                    • DrJones
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 9107

                      #385
                      Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                      Originally posted by Majingir
                      Just as crazy, Stars also had an empty net goal too. So not only did Canucks tie in when down 3 with a minute to go, they did so while also conceding an empty net goal already too.
                      It was even a little stranger than you describe. The Canucks were cooked after 2 periods, down 3-0 (all on the Dallas PP) and were ready for golf season (they would've been mathematically eliminated with a loss in regulation).

                      To their credit, they put up a good effort in the 3rd and were down 3-2 and pressing when Bourque scored an "insurance" goal for the Stars at 17:15. Vancouver pulled Demko and Dallas immediately made it 5-2 at 17:39 before the Canucks could get a chance with the extra attacker.

                      Here's the thing that's not in most of the media recaps: Vancouver then gave up. The Canucks were more-or-less resigned to their fate. The 5-3 goal by Raty at 19:00 was scored 5-on-5. Only after that did Tocchet pull Demko again.

                      BTW, Quinn Hughes (who has looked ragged as hell since coming back from injury; he's clearly not 100%) played the entire 3:44 of OT (there was one stoppage for a Dallas penalty; the teams were 4-on-4 when Sherwood scored the winner).
                      Originally posted by Thrash13
                      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                      Originally posted by slickdtc
                      DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                      Originally posted by Kipnis22
                      yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                      • DrJones
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 9107

                        #386
                        Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                        BTW, I hate that a.) the NHL released this obviously incorrect factoid, and b.) everybody blindly accepts it except for semi-autistic pedants like myself.

                        It clearly says "NHL history", not "NHL regular season history", yet I can clearly remember a trio of postseason 3-goal comebacks that would place in the top 5 here.

                        2020 East "Qualifying Round" Game 4: Leafs scored 3 goals in final 4:03 to tie it, beat Jackets in OT
                        2017 West SF Game 5: Ducks score 3 goals in final 3:16 to tie it, beat Oilers in 2OT
                        1997 West QF Game 3: Oilers score 3 goals in final 4:00 to tie it, beat Stars in OT (some classic Bob Cole calls here)

                        Even if "regular season only" is implied, are you telling me that the top 5 3-goal comebacks in a league that's 108 years old have all occurred since 2014, and 3 of them took place this season? There were none in the 1980s when goalies were sh** and 8-7 games occurred on a weekly basis? That set off my BS detector, so after 5 min of research, I found a Minnesota/Montreal game from 1984 that involved a 3-goal comeback that started later than the Isles/Wings game on that list. I imagine there are a few others from the 70s and 80s.

                        In conclusion: when this factoid says "NHL History", I would bet you 100 bucks what is really meant is "NHL Regular Season History Since the 2005/06 Season" or something similar. The NHL needs to hire better interns.
                        Originally posted by Thrash13
                        Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                        Originally posted by slickdtc
                        DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                        Originally posted by Kipnis22
                        yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47439

                          #387
                          Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                          Former Pens/Devils GM Ray Shero passes away at the age of 62.

                          Started as an assistant GM for the expansion Sens, then assistant GM for the expansion Preds.

                          Obviously he inherited the Pens with Crosby, Malkin and Fleury already, but he did lots of moves that eventually paid off for the Pens. Although, some draft misses, like imagine if he took Toews instead of Staal.

                          Then became the GM of the Devils before winding up an advisor with the Wild.

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                          • DrJones
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 9107

                            #388
                            Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            Former Pens/Devils GM Ray Shero passes away at the age of 62.

                            Started as an assistant GM for the expansion Sens, then assistant GM for the expansion Preds.

                            Obviously he inherited the Pens with Crosby, Malkin and Fleury already, but he did lots of moves that eventually paid off for the Pens. Although, some draft misses, like imagine if he took Toews instead of Staal.

                            Then became the GM of the Devils before winding up an advisor with the Wild.
                            Penguins taking Toews instead of Jordan Staal is a fantastic what-if scenario. How many Cups does that add to their tally?

                            2008: Possible, but I don't think so. Even with Toews, the Pens' lack of experience probably costs them
                            2010: Leaning yes. The addition of Toews is just enough to avoid being Halak'd; I like their chances against Boucher/Leighton in the East Final, and they probably have just enough gas to get by the Kane-and-Staal Hawks or the doomed-even-in-pretend-scenarios Canucks or Sharks
                            2011: No. Crosby's absence too much to overcome (although they still might make it as far as the East Final where they'd fall to Boston)
                            2012: No, not unless Toews learned how to play in goal. MAF was too much of a space cadet against the Flyers. Philly still gets their revenge in hilarious fashion
                            2013: This is the toughest call. Is Toews enough to reverse a Bruins ECF sweep? He didn't have a great playoff that year. Are the Hawks hooped without him against Boston in the Final? Probably
                            2014: Another tough one. Toews' presence is enough to get by the Rangers and Habs, but what about the Zombie Kings? I think LA ekes it out
                            2015: This is the only one with regular season consequences. Do the Pens still finish 4th in the Metro with a healthy Toews? Doubtful. Let's say they switch spots with the Islanders. They torment the Caps once again, but probably fall to the Rangers or Lightning. By this point, has Chicago surrounded Kane with enough talent to finally break through? Tough to say. It's either them or Tampa for the Cup; I have no faith Brucey's Ducks here

                            Conclusion: Pittsburgh gets another Cup and another Final out of the deal, but a Toews/Staal swap hurts the Blackhawks much more than it helps the Penguins
                            Originally posted by Thrash13
                            Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                            Originally posted by slickdtc
                            DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                            Originally posted by Kipnis22
                            yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                            • Psyblast
                              2023 National Champions
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 42582

                              #389
                              Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                              Didn't Staal leave (get traded from) Pittsburgh because he wanted a bigger role than being the #3 center? Wouldn't that same dilemma have existed if Toews was there? Or is the thought in this Satanic alternate history that the Penguins move Malkin to the wing and go with Crosby and Toews up the middle?

                              This entire discussion makes me nauseous. Having disdain for all names involved here, the only regret I have is we were never treated to a Pittsburgh/Chicago final. Perfect opportunity for that asteroid.

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                              • Psyblast
                                2023 National Champions
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 42582

                                #390
                                Re: The Official 2024-25 Season Talk Thread

                                That Toronto/Tampa overtime was a work of art. Breathtaking.

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