Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

**jondiehl** · 12-10-2003, 11:30 AM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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fsquid said:
so I can prevent it possibly being used in the OS tourneys.

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No real way to do that. I mean, I have 60pts on my guy, and I'm not that far off from maxing him out on my own. It's only a matter of time before really good players have maxed out players on their own, or someone gets a copy from someone (either through AR or knowing someone).

I guess the best solution would be a way to limit the amount of skill points you can have for a XSN tournament, which has already been suggested, but Daryl basically said it can't be done.

**Klocker** · 12-10-2003, 11:50 AM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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jondiehl said:
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fsquid said:
so I can prevent it possibly being used in the OS tourneys.

<hr /></blockquote>

No real way to do that. I mean, I have 60pts on my guy, and I'm not that far off from maxing him out on my own. It's only a matter of time before really good players have maxed out players on their own, or someone gets a copy from someone (either through AR or knowing someone).

I guess the best solution would be a way to limit the amount of skill points you can have for a XSN tournament, which has already been suggested, but Daryl basically said it can't be done.

<hr /></blockquote>

according to Daryl Welsh, a player with 65 or so Skill points IS maxxed out.

He said the only way to get to 80 is from a LOOOng time playing after you hit 65, as the money gets enormous to earn to upgrade from there.

He said without cheating it's nearly impossible to see anyone over 70 for a looong time.

**Klocker** · 12-10-2003, 11:50 AM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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jondiehl said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
so I can prevent it possibly being used in the OS tourneys.

<hr /></blockquote>

No real way to do that. I mean, I have 60pts on my guy, and I'm not that far off from maxing him out on my own. It's only a matter of time before really good players have maxed out players on their own, or someone gets a copy from someone (either through AR or knowing someone).

I guess the best solution would be a way to limit the amount of skill points you can have for a XSN tournament, which has already been suggested, but Daryl basically said it can't be done.

<hr /></blockquote>

according to Daryl Welsh, a player with 65 or so Skill points IS maxxed out.

He said the only way to get to 80 is from a LOOOng time playing after you hit 65, as the money gets enormous to earn to upgrade from there.

He said without cheating it's nearly impossible to see anyone over 70 for a looong time.

**Klocker** · 12-10-2003, 11:50 AM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jondiehl said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
so I can prevent it possibly being used in the OS tourneys.

<hr /></blockquote>

No real way to do that. I mean, I have 60pts on my guy, and I'm not that far off from maxing him out on my own. It's only a matter of time before really good players have maxed out players on their own, or someone gets a copy from someone (either through AR or knowing someone).

I guess the best solution would be a way to limit the amount of skill points you can have for a XSN tournament, which has already been suggested, but Daryl basically said it can't be done.

<hr /></blockquote>

according to Daryl Welsh, a player with 65 or so Skill points IS maxxed out.

He said the only way to get to 80 is from a LOOOng time playing after you hit 65, as the money gets enormous to earn to upgrade from there.

He said without cheating it's nearly impossible to see anyone over 70 for a looong time.

**jondiehl** · 12-10-2003, 12:00 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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Klocker said:

according to Daryl Welsh, a player with 65 or so Skill points IS maxxed out.

He said the only way to get to 80 is from a LOOOng time playing after you hit 65, as the money gets enormous to earn to upgrade from there.

He said without cheating it's nearly impossible to see anyone over 70 for a looong time.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, that's all true (except for the first part, 80pts is maxed out, not 65pts). It will take quite some time to fulling reach 80pts w/o exploiting this glitch, the point is that many of us are at 60+ already and eventually we'll get there. What Daryl said was that ~65pts seems to be the "max" right now for most people who have worked through career mode and have completed all of the tournaments. After a long time, we'll have 70-80pts, it's just going to take forever.

Also, don't forget about the 9 equipment points available as well. I have 60 purchased points, as well as 9 equipment points.

Since I'm not there yet, I'm not sure if those 9 equipment points means that you don't have to buy points 72-80, but I'm guessing that's the case and you can't get 89pts (effectively).

While it doesn't show those equipment points online (ie. my guy shows 60pts in the online lobby) that equipment DOES get used online and aids you just like in offline... so right now I have "effectively" 69pts with those equipment boosts.

Anyway, I'm sure it will be only a week or two before we see 80pt characters online. Same thing happened with MotoGP1/2 and Action Replay. Those of us who worked hard (and many many hours) to max out our riders online were pissed when we saw other people just download it. In the end though, those people couldn't ride worth a damn and the 100's of hours of offline work that the rest of us had really showed when it came down to it. I'm sure Links will be the same. The 100's of hours we invest to get our character at 60-80pts will be the difference when we beat these 80pt Action Replay people.

**jondiehl** · 12-10-2003, 12:00 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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Klocker said:

according to Daryl Welsh, a player with 65 or so Skill points IS maxxed out.

He said the only way to get to 80 is from a LOOOng time playing after you hit 65, as the money gets enormous to earn to upgrade from there.

He said without cheating it's nearly impossible to see anyone over 70 for a looong time.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, that's all true (except for the first part, 80pts is maxed out, not 65pts). It will take quite some time to fulling reach 80pts w/o exploiting this glitch, the point is that many of us are at 60+ already and eventually we'll get there. What Daryl said was that ~65pts seems to be the "max" right now for most people who have worked through career mode and have completed all of the tournaments. After a long time, we'll have 70-80pts, it's just going to take forever.

Also, don't forget about the 9 equipment points available as well. I have 60 purchased points, as well as 9 equipment points.

Since I'm not there yet, I'm not sure if those 9 equipment points means that you don't have to buy points 72-80, but I'm guessing that's the case and you can't get 89pts (effectively).

While it doesn't show those equipment points online (ie. my guy shows 60pts in the online lobby) that equipment DOES get used online and aids you just like in offline... so right now I have "effectively" 69pts with those equipment boosts.

Anyway, I'm sure it will be only a week or two before we see 80pt characters online. Same thing happened with MotoGP1/2 and Action Replay. Those of us who worked hard (and many many hours) to max out our riders online were pissed when we saw other people just download it. In the end though, those people couldn't ride worth a damn and the 100's of hours of offline work that the rest of us had really showed when it came down to it. I'm sure Links will be the same. The 100's of hours we invest to get our character at 60-80pts will be the difference when we beat these 80pt Action Replay people.

**jondiehl** · 12-10-2003, 12:00 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Klocker said:

according to Daryl Welsh, a player with 65 or so Skill points IS maxxed out.

He said the only way to get to 80 is from a LOOOng time playing after you hit 65, as the money gets enormous to earn to upgrade from there.

He said without cheating it's nearly impossible to see anyone over 70 for a looong time.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, that's all true (except for the first part, 80pts is maxed out, not 65pts). It will take quite some time to fulling reach 80pts w/o exploiting this glitch, the point is that many of us are at 60+ already and eventually we'll get there. What Daryl said was that ~65pts seems to be the "max" right now for most people who have worked through career mode and have completed all of the tournaments. After a long time, we'll have 70-80pts, it's just going to take forever.

Also, don't forget about the 9 equipment points available as well. I have 60 purchased points, as well as 9 equipment points.

Since I'm not there yet, I'm not sure if those 9 equipment points means that you don't have to buy points 72-80, but I'm guessing that's the case and you can't get 89pts (effectively).

While it doesn't show those equipment points online (ie. my guy shows 60pts in the online lobby) that equipment DOES get used online and aids you just like in offline... so right now I have "effectively" 69pts with those equipment boosts.

Anyway, I'm sure it will be only a week or two before we see 80pt characters online. Same thing happened with MotoGP1/2 and Action Replay. Those of us who worked hard (and many many hours) to max out our riders online were pissed when we saw other people just download it. In the end though, those people couldn't ride worth a damn and the 100's of hours of offline work that the rest of us had really showed when it came down to it. I'm sure Links will be the same. The 100's of hours we invest to get our character at 60-80pts will be the difference when we beat these 80pt Action Replay people.

**fsquid** · 12-10-2003, 12:15 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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jondiehl said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
so I can prevent it possibly being used in the OS tourneys.

<hr /></blockquote>

No real way to do that. I mean, I have 60pts on my guy, and I'm not that far off from maxing him out on my own. It's only a matter of time before really good players have maxed out players on their own, or someone gets a copy from someone (either through AR or knowing someone).

I guess the best solution would be a way to limit the amount of skill points you can have for a XSN tournament, which has already been suggested, but Daryl basically said it can't be done.

<hr /></blockquote>

There is a way to monitor those things, but I'll keep it to myself for the time being. I just want to know if this thing hits so I can keep an eye out. Also, that MotoGP thing is so very true.

**fsquid** · 12-10-2003, 12:15 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jondiehl said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
so I can prevent it possibly being used in the OS tourneys.

<hr /></blockquote>

No real way to do that. I mean, I have 60pts on my guy, and I'm not that far off from maxing him out on my own. It's only a matter of time before really good players have maxed out players on their own, or someone gets a copy from someone (either through AR or knowing someone).

I guess the best solution would be a way to limit the amount of skill points you can have for a XSN tournament, which has already been suggested, but Daryl basically said it can't be done.

<hr /></blockquote>

There is a way to monitor those things, but I'll keep it to myself for the time being. I just want to know if this thing hits so I can keep an eye out. Also, that MotoGP thing is so very true.

**fsquid** · 12-10-2003, 12:15 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jondiehl said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
so I can prevent it possibly being used in the OS tourneys.

<hr /></blockquote>

No real way to do that. I mean, I have 60pts on my guy, and I'm not that far off from maxing him out on my own. It's only a matter of time before really good players have maxed out players on their own, or someone gets a copy from someone (either through AR or knowing someone).

I guess the best solution would be a way to limit the amount of skill points you can have for a XSN tournament, which has already been suggested, but Daryl basically said it can't be done.

<hr /></blockquote>

There is a way to monitor those things, but I'll keep it to myself for the time being. I just want to know if this thing hits so I can keep an eye out. Also, that MotoGP thing is so very true.

**jondiehl** · 12-10-2003, 12:23 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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fsquid said:
There is a way to monitor those things, but I'll keep it to myself for the time being.

<hr /></blockquote>

There's no way to limit it on XSN or the game itself. The only way is by not inviting people who are known to have 80pt characters. The only way to know that is to play with them and see their point total in the lobby before starting a game.... which would require setting up tournaments w/ fast play on (forcing you to play with a partner). Problem with that is that you can play with any partner, and they don't have to play with someone else in the tournament.

Other than that, there isn't any way to regulate the skill points being used. If you know of some secret, please PM me with it as I'd like to use it for my own tournaments and league/season on my website.

**jondiehl** · 12-10-2003, 12:23 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
There is a way to monitor those things, but I'll keep it to myself for the time being.

<hr /></blockquote>

There's no way to limit it on XSN or the game itself. The only way is by not inviting people who are known to have 80pt characters. The only way to know that is to play with them and see their point total in the lobby before starting a game.... which would require setting up tournaments w/ fast play on (forcing you to play with a partner). Problem with that is that you can play with any partner, and they don't have to play with someone else in the tournament.

Other than that, there isn't any way to regulate the skill points being used. If you know of some secret, please PM me with it as I'd like to use it for my own tournaments and league/season on my website.

**jondiehl** · 12-10-2003, 12:23 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
There is a way to monitor those things, but I'll keep it to myself for the time being.

<hr /></blockquote>

There's no way to limit it on XSN or the game itself. The only way is by not inviting people who are known to have 80pt characters. The only way to know that is to play with them and see their point total in the lobby before starting a game.... which would require setting up tournaments w/ fast play on (forcing you to play with a partner). Problem with that is that you can play with any partner, and they don't have to play with someone else in the tournament.

Other than that, there isn't any way to regulate the skill points being used. If you know of some secret, please PM me with it as I'd like to use it for my own tournaments and league/season on my website.

**Klocker** · 12-10-2003, 12:40 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

good info Jon, thanks!

I only have 19 points and have mostly just played online.

I'm going to have to work offline to get to the next level in tourneys.

I'm holding my own in tourney's this week (read: not totally embarrassed my self

), I've improved MY skill level by playing online but just going from 7 SP to 19 has made a difference in my performance.

**Klocker** · 12-10-2003, 12:40 PM

Re: Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

good info Jon, thanks!

I only have 19 points and have mostly just played online.

I'm going to have to work offline to get to the next level in tourneys.

I'm holding my own in tourney's this week (read: not totally embarrassed my self

), I've improved MY skill level by playing online but just going from 7 SP to 19 has made a difference in my performance.

Did that 80 skill point cheat gain any momentum?

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