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  • pietasterp
    All Star
    • Feb 2004
    • 6244

    #16
    Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

    Much appreciated writeup and asking of the community questions, ChaseB.

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    • MrArlingtonBeach
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      • Feb 2009
      • 4530

      #17
      Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

      Watching a CrazyCanuck Q&A stream on Twitch...he's reading the OS community questions, too, and adding in more info...

      - Tiger was not mo-capped, but some players were
      - he's had the course creator since March...
      - he said it's "easier" to build courses
      - no flyovers on console, as far as he could tell
      - putting was the same as 2K21...felt similar anyway
      - green grids looked similar, too
      - difficulty settings were identical to 2K21
      - sounds like caddies may be just visual...
      - John is still the casual round announcer
      - 3-click would be his preferred method of playing the game...it's more precise. Some will love it, some will hate it
      - he does not think that MyPlayers can have custom swings...there's just one default one
      - he thinks that "view courses by designer" is back, but might be console/system specific (ex - if you're on PS4, playing a PC player's course, it wouldn't show their courses, but if you're on PS4 playing a PS4 designer's course, you'd see their list of created courses)
      - there will not be the ability to have multiple golf bags/loadouts...you just get the one bag, as it was in 2K21
      - he has an overall positive impression of the game at this point

      The most interesting thing is...he's not sure he agrees with the answer the dev gave Chase about customizable career mode schedules. He said he asked Shaun West, the lead producer, the same exact question, and got a "no comment"...and his impression was that customizable schedules were NOT in. So...who knows?
      Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 08-24-2022, 08:48 PM.
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      • VoltSwoosh
        Banned
        • Jun 2021
        • 1090

        #18
        Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

        Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
        Watching a CrazyCanuck Q&A stream on Twitch...he's reading the OS community questions, too, and adding in more info...

        - Tiger was not mo-capped, but some players were
        - he's had the course creator since March...
        - he said it's "easier" to build courses
        - no flyovers on console, as far as he could tell
        - putting was the same as 2K21...felt similar anyway
        - green grids looked similar, too
        - difficulty settings were identical to 2K21
        - sounds like caddies may be just visual...
        - John is still the casual round announcer
        - 3-click would be his preferred method of playing the game...it's more precise. Some will love it, some will hate it
        - he does not think that MyPlayers can have custom swings...there's just one default one
        - he thinks that "view courses by designer" is back, but might be console/system specific (ex - if you're on PS4, playing a PC player's course, it wouldn't show their courses, but if you're on PS4 playing a PS4 designer's course, you'd see their list of created courses)
        - there will not be the ability to have multiple golf bags/loadouts...you just get the one bag, as it was in 2K21
        - he has an overall positive impression of the game at this point

        The most interesting thing is...he's not sure he agrees with the answer the dev gave Chase about customizable career mode schedules. He said he asked Shaun West, the lead producer, the same exact question, and got a "no comment"...and his impression was that customizable schedules were NOT in. So...who knows?


        No custom schedule after all? That’d put a damper on my view of the game.


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        • ChaseB
          #BringBackFaceuary
          • Oct 2003
          • 9844

          #19
          Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

          Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
          Watching a CrazyCanuck Q&A stream on Twitch...he's reading the OS community questions, too, and adding in more info...

          - Tiger was not mo-capped, but some players were
          - he's had the course creator since March...
          - he said it's "easier" to build courses
          - no flyovers on console, as far as he could tell
          - putting was the same as 2K21...felt similar anyway
          - green grids looked similar, too
          - difficulty settings were identical to 2K21
          - sounds like caddies may be just visual...
          - John is still the casual round announcer
          - 3-click would be his preferred method of playing the game...it's more precise. Some will love it, some will hate it
          - he does not think that MyPlayers can have custom swings...there's just one default one
          - he thinks that "view courses by designer" is back, but might be console/system specific (ex - if you're on PS4, playing a PC player's course, it wouldn't show their courses, but if you're on PS4 playing a PS4 designer's course, you'd see their list of created courses)
          - there will not be the ability to have multiple golf bags/loadouts...you just get the one bag, as it was in 2K21
          - he has an overall positive impression of the game at this point

          The most interesting thing is...he's not sure he agrees with the answer the dev gave Chase about customizable career mode schedules. He said he asked Shaun West, the lead producer, the same exact question, and got a "no comment"...and his impression was that customizable schedules were NOT in. So...who knows?
          Whoops, I did get the answer to that one, it was in my notes and just forgot to post it. But yes, can also confirm I got that response about not having access to multiple bags.

          As for the custom schedules, I mean what was said to me was said. No comment is not no, and I don't think we were speaking in hypotheticals about it.

          I did also want to mention they do have a lot of love for TGC Tours but there's no new implementation there to bring it into the game itself this year. That was also in my notes that I have not put anywhere as of now.
          I won't ask for Christmas or birthday gifts if you subscribe to the Operation Sports Newsletter (Not Just Another Roster Update). I write it, and it hits your inbox every Friday morning (for freeeeeee). We also have an official OS Discord you can now join.

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          • scagwi
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 2718

            #20
            Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

            Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
            - Tiger was not mo-capped, but some players were
            This has to be coming before launch I'd assume.

            (TW being mo-capped)

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            • MrArlingtonBeach
              MVP
              • Feb 2009
              • 4530

              #21
              Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

              Originally posted by ChaseB
              Whoops, I did get the answer to that one, it was in my notes and just forgot to post it. But yes, can also confirm I got that response about not having access to multiple bags.

              As for the custom schedules, I mean what was said to me was said. No comment is not no, and I don't think we were speaking in hypotheticals about it.

              I did also want to mention they do have a lot of love for TGC Tours but there's no new implementation there to bring it into the game itself this year. That was also in my notes that I have not put anywhere as of now.
              Yeah, I was not implying that you were lying or anything like that. It was just very odd that you asked someone the same question, and got a very different answer!

              CrazyCanuck basically said that he didn't think custom schedules were in, based on the answer he got. So it was just some conflicting reports and it seemed a bit strange.
              Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 08-24-2022, 09:51 PM.
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              • kehlis
                Moderator
                • Jul 2008
                • 27738

                #22
                Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                To be fair, customizable schedule can mean a few things.

                It could mean changing events and customizing them to the schedule you want (manipulating the schedule of events they have set).

                Or it could just mean customizing the course for some events.

                If I'm not mistaken, the majority of us only care about the latter so that very well could be a non issue.

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                • ChaseB
                  #BringBackFaceuary
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9844

                  #23
                  Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                  Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
                  Yeah, I was not implying that you were lying or anything like that. It was just very odd that you asked someone the same question, and got a very different answer!
                  I think the tricky thing is technically a lot of what we're talking about is not what 2K/HB are ready to talk about. And no, I wasn't trying to imply anyone was lying either so we're all good there. But yeah, maybe it's one of those things where we were talking about something and he let it slip when he shouldn't have and sort of decided to not go that route again etc.

                  I'm sure there are some specifics about this scheduling that I could have gotten wrong, or more specifics that need to be known, but I'm comfortable with what I heard in terms of it being in the game in some capacity (specifically swapping out courses when it's not real events).
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                  • MrArlingtonBeach
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4530

                    #24
                    Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                    Originally posted by ChaseB
                    I think the tricky thing is technically a lot of what we're talking about is not what 2K/HB are ready to talk about. And no, I wasn't trying to imply anyone was lying either so we're all good there. But yeah, maybe it's one of those things where we were talking about something and he let it slip when he shouldn't have and sort of decided to not go that route again etc.

                    I'm sure there are some specifics about this scheduling that I could have gotten wrong, or more specifics that need to be known, but I'm comfortable with what I heard in terms of it being in the game in some capacity (specifically swapping out courses when it's not real events).
                    For sure. I totally understand, and am thankful you were able to get the answers to the questions we asked. It's very helpful and much appreciated!
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                    • scagwi
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 2718

                      #25
                      Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                      Originally posted by ChaseB
                      I think the tricky thing is technically a lot of what we're talking about is not what 2K/HB are ready to talk about.
                      Let's hope they are "ready" to talk about it before launch

                      Their routine has been to market relentlessly and go fast and loose on many specifics....and "launch"

                      Once the money is procured, it's too late for a consumer to make an informed decision.

                      Sorry for the tone -- I just am irritated with how they do some of this

                      "Developers didn't really understand what I was asking about (scoreboard issues)"

                      Give me a break...
                      Last edited by scagwi; 08-24-2022, 09:56 PM.

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                      • MrArlingtonBeach
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 4530

                        #26
                        Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                        And just for the sake of clarity, this is exactly what was said about custom schedules in career mode...he does say the producer didn't say no, but he did say he worried the answer in OS wasn't accurate:

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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #27
                          Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                          Originally posted by scagwi
                          Let's hope they are "ready" to talk about it before launch

                          Their routine has been to market relentlessly and go fast and loose on many specifics....and "launch"

                          Once the money is procured, it's too late for a consumer to make an informed decision.

                          Sorry for the tone -- I just am irritated with how they do some of this
                          Eh - this is something we can control.

                          We don't have to buy upfront. We can wait until release to see how it is.

                          We can be irritated but we also control that. If we aren't sold up front we just hold off until after release to make our decision.

                          Marketing isn't going to change.

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                          • ChaseB
                            #BringBackFaceuary
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 9844

                            #28
                            Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                            Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
                            And just for the sake of clarity, this is exactly what was said about custom schedules in career mode...he does say the producer didn't say no, but he did say he worried the answer in OS wasn't accurate:

                            https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1571751245?t=00h04m05s
                            Oh okay that's the dude. I didn't talk to him but I believe he's in the NextMakers program. Good to put a name to the face.
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                            • MrArlingtonBeach
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4530

                              #29
                              Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                              Originally posted by ChaseB
                              Oh okay that's the dude. I didn't talk to him but I believe he's in the NextMakers program. Good to put a name to the face.
                              Yeah, he's mostly known for his course designs/tutorials about the game. And yeah, he is part of the NextMaker program.
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                              • scagwi
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 2718

                                #30
                                Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                Eh - this is something we can control.

                                We don't have to buy upfront. We can wait until release to see how it is.

                                We can be irritated but we also control that. If we aren't sold up front we just hold off until after release to make our decision.

                                Marketing isn't going to change.
                                We can here, yes
                                But they know what they're doing by being cagey and fast and loose on things that won't show well..

                                It's all about getting mega preorders and the most juice right out of the gate

                                I'm sure many do it - doesn't mean I should like it though.

                                And the developers not knowing about the scoreboard thing?
                                I'm sorry - but we'd have to believe they are pretty dumb and uninformed to believe that to be true.

                                They are neither
                                Last edited by scagwi; 08-24-2022, 10:03 PM.

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