EA Sports PGA Tour Interview with Development Team - It's All About Gameplay

[lowpaiddonkey10]

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To be fair, the host of that Michigan Golf Live show said he did see it in person for an hour, and got to play the game for 15 minutes. That's obviously not a ton of time, but he's got more to go off of than many others do.

More than willing to go with that till I see it. Hopefully they show console game play footage at 30 and not PC footage at 60. Some think the swing looked slow because it was shown at 30. If it comes out that way it would be disappointing. But we'll see.

[lowpaiddonkey10]

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Who knows, but they keep using Madden to try to sell this game, so...

https://twitter.com/EASPORTSPGATOUR/status/1624092389026541580

That's honestly one of the more concerning/odd things about this golf game. Why is Madden a part of this? Just kind of strange.

Wouldn't make too much of it. 2k threw in basketball at a discount price with PGA. That pissed me off even more than paying full price for the golf game. No bigee but still. The game will sell no doubt.

[OnlookerDelay]

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Here's a very good You Tube video built around Operation Sports excellent interview with designer Craig Penner (the subject of this thread). It has very high production qualities and the narrator's thoughts on the frame rate capping at 30 FPS makes my thoughts on it seem upbeat He calls it a "deal breaker", and he will be playing it on a PC instead.

There's a lot of good analysis in the video and I highly recommend it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9bf1lkBSh0&t=68s&ab_channel=GamerAbility

[MrArlingtonBeach]

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Wouldn't make too much of it. 2k threw in basketball at a discount price with PGA. That pissed me off even more than paying full price for the golf game. No bigee but still. The game will sell no doubt.

That's true about PGA 2K23 and NBA 2K23, but that happened at holiday time, after both of those games had been out for a few months, but were still relatively new or in the middle of their real-life seasons. I could see that as a neat idea as a Christmas gift or something if people didn't have them yet.

This is as a pre-order bonus for a brand new golf game (with Augusta and the Masters and such), and the bonus is a game that's cycle is basically over (is anyone without Madden at this point feeling really excited about playing it in March?) and is already "free" to those who have EA Play.

It's just odd that Madden is being used as a way to sell the golf game before it even comes out, I guess.

[countryboy]

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I don't know that I would view it as using Madden to try to sell the golf game. I think its more of EA trying to gain a "new" customer base for Madden due to the issues the game is having and the fact that Madden is losing some of its customer base due to these issues.

[jbd345]

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On the plus side, I feel like they have to address the 30fps now after seeing the backlash. Just hope the game doesn’t get delayed again in the process. Kind of amazing how much traction this interview has gotten. The only thing that I don’t get is what different in hardware does the pc offer that ps5 doesn’t, that can make the game run at 60fps?

[scagwi]

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On the plus side, I feel like they have to address the 30fps now after seeing the backlash. Just hope the game doesn’t get delayed again in the process. Kind of amazing how much traction this interview has gotten. The only thing that I don’t get is what different in hardware does the pc offer that ps5 doesn’t, that can make the game run at 60fps?

There has to be some way the PS5/XBSX can run this thing at 60fps, even if it's by going down to 1440p (which would still look amazing, I'm positive)

I know this gets poo poo'd by folks, but FPS really is something that are hard to come down on once you get used to higher/faster.

Like, for me, the smoothness at which I move the aiming arrow around to predetermine shot power for each full 100% analog swing will be very impacted by the FPS

[MrArlingtonBeach]

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I don't know that I would view it as using Madden to try to sell the golf game. I think its more of EA trying to gain a "new" customer base for Madden due to the issues the game is having and the fact that Madden is losing some of its customer base due to these issues.

That's fair. And I know it's probably not a huge deal in the long run.

I just find it odd for them to be offering a football game in March as a pre-order bonus for a golf game - especially a football game that's been heavily criticized and is apparently causing people to leave the consumer base in the first place.

The real cynic in me thinks it's just another way for them to get more people into plugging more real money into MUT...

[jwilphl]

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On the plus side, I feel like they have to address the 30fps now after seeing the backlash. Just hope the game doesn’t get delayed again in the process. Kind of amazing how much traction this interview has gotten. The only thing that I don’t get is what different in hardware does the pc offer that ps5 doesn’t, that can make the game run at 60fps?

Comparable PC hardware typically can't run 4K anywhere near 60 FPS, so I guess if the game is running natively in 4K, that's the issue. I may have missed where that was stated, however. I can't imagine they are attempting to run the game natively in 4K on consoles. That was never this generation's intention, as far as I'm aware.

Assuming the game is only running in normal HD (1080P), that's why it's questionable. 60FPS at that resolution shouldn't be overly difficult for a PS5 unless there are optimization issues on a game like this. Unless maybe there's a bottleneck somewhere else in the architecture.

[golfnut67]

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There has to be some way the PS5/XBSX can run this thing at 60fps, even if it's by going down to 1440p (which would still look amazing, I'm positive)

I know this gets poo poo'd by folks, but FPS really is something that are hard to come down on once you get used to higher/faster.

Like, for me, the smoothness at which I move the aiming arrow around to predetermine shot power for each full 100% analog swing will be very impacted by the FPS

Indeed it would be. I'm still blown away that it's only going to be 30fps on nexgen consoles. Makes no sense.

[lowpaiddonkey10]

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EA wanted graphics.

[Will I Am]

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EA wanted graphics.

Graphics with shaky gameplay is like having a hot wife who can't cook or clean.

[scagwi]

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Graphics with shaky gameplay is like having a hot wife who can't cook or clean.

Of course… in this scenario, you do still have a hot wife

That shouldn’t be minimized here

[Ronoko]

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I'd gladly still play Links 2003 if the resolution was higher. Even though it's like playing golf on a postcard and the backgrounds are completely static. I don't know about the framerates or smoothness of the animations, but I think EA is going for more for a 4k photorealistic look.

[C.J.S.]

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you console guys should expect 30fps, don't believe Microsoft and Sony's 60fps hype. development studios sell more copies the better they look, so they will push the consoles beyond it's limits, forever. PS7 will still get 30fps by year 2 of its lifecycle.