Official PS3 Discussion Part III...

[Altimus]

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Been thinking about it, and I'm almost betting on it that Sony will be locking down profiles and saves when trophies are introduced.

Think of it, you can download saves for just about every and any PS3 game out there. If they allow that with trophies, well, everyone will have all the trophies they want. No one will need to earn them, they just get them and display them.

Not saying Sony will care, but I think they have so much invested in Home that they will want them to be as legit as possible.

Perhaps and perhaps not. The PSN user name ID is a lot more complicated than the Xbox system. With Xbox you just have one profile and every game uses that profile.

With Sony some games will use your PSN name, your PS name, or you can just create your own name.

It seems like a lot of confusion since there is no connection. What if I don't play online and don't have a PSN but want XMB trophies? See where I'm getting it. It is really complicated right now and I don't see them using a lock system for a while.

Especially if there won't be any score and leaderboard like with XBL. If people want to cheat, let them cheat. As I said before, there is no pot of gold at the end.

[Altimus]

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I'd take the ease of transferring files over "legit" 2D trophies any day of the week. I'm hoping Sony knows not to mess with a good thing. If people want to cheat in order to get pixelated trophies, who cares?

Exactly.

This is why I don't understand why MS went all 12th century on Xbox gamers. Resetting their score and labeling them as a cheater on their gamercard? Come on...

If cheatings affects others in the community as in online gaming, fine. Ban them, whatever. If people cheat and don't hurt anyone in the process who cares.

[Flawless]

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Exactly.

This is why I don't understand why MS went all 12th century on Xbox gamers. Resetting their score and labeling them as a cheater on their gamercard? Come on...

If cheatings affects others in the community as in online gaming, fine. Ban them, whatever. If people cheat and don't hurt anyone in the process who cares.

You would be surprised how many people do care. This is a pay service. Gamerscores and achievements are part of the the social and competitive nature of XBL. A lot people take this stuff seriously and found it hard to swallow that cheaters were getting a free pass.

[bkfount]

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even right now the ps3 has games that are locked to a profile, so it's not like this isn't happening yet. You can't use a burnout paradise save file for example.

While I've never done it, you can still easily use saves for gamescore cheating on the 360. All you need is the right program, a memory card, and a PC adapter for that memory card. Both wanting a legit gamescore and fear of getting whacked with MS's stick have kept it to a couple of little sites on the internet though. MS only catches people that get stupid with cheating, like a huge spike in score in one day.

[Altimus]

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even right now the ps3 has games that are locked to a profile, so it's not like this isn't happening yet. You can't use a burnout paradise save file for example.

While I've never done it, you can still easily use saves for gamescore cheating on the 360. All you need is the right program, a memory card, and a PC adapter for that memory card. Both wanting a legit gamescore and fear of getting whacked with MS's stick have kept it to a couple of little sites on the internet though. MS only catches people that get stupid with cheating, like a huge spike in score in one day.

I believe they only get people that actually alter files.

[Altimus]

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You would be surprised how many people do care. This is a pay service. Gamerscores and achievements are part of the the social and competitive nature of XBL. A lot people take this stuff seriously and found it hard to swallow that cheaters were getting a free pass.

I was one of those people but soon I stopped caring about leader board ranking and all that. There is still many cheaters on that board as 8/9 out of the top 10 are cheaters. Not to mention many of the top people and people that care about gamerscore boost online games. Boosting is cheating as well, so if they get gamesavers they should go after boosting and glitching as well but they won't.

[mgoblue]

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I was one of those people but soon I stopped caring about leader board ranking and all that. There is still many cheaters on that board as 8/9 out of the top 10 are cheaters. Not to mention many of the top people and people that care about gamerscore boost online games. Boosting is cheating as well, so if they get gamesavers they should go after boosting and glitching as well but they won't.

What's even funnier is that these competitive guys will pull that Avatar trick and get the 1k in a minute...sure, it's "legit", but in my eyes the fact that my dead grandma could get 1k in a minute that easily kinda makes the entire thing not as legitimate. The minute I've got to be that slimy to "compete" is the time I step out of the game. My life isn't validated by gamerscore...

[ExtremeGamer]

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What's even funnier is that these competitive guys will pull that Avatar trick and get the 1k in a minute...sure, it's "legit", but in my eyes the fact that my dead grandma could get 1k in a minute that easily kinda makes the entire thing not as legitimate. The minute I've got to be that slimy to "compete" is the time I step out of the game. My life isn't validated by gamerscore...

I don't care about the leaderboard, but I have a fun time getting them. My 33K isn't even in the top 1,000 or even 5,000 gamerscores, but I have a blast getting achievements.

I don't feel Avatar is cheating, if it is, then so is NBA2K6, CH2K6, etc and so on. Anyone could get the full 1K or near it in those games. If the achievements are easy to attain, then that's it IMO.

<--- did the Avatar thing a few weeks ago

[mgoblue]

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I don't care about the leaderboard, but I have a fun time getting them. My 33K isn't even in the top 1,000 or even 5,000 gamerscores, but I have a blast getting achievements.

I don't feel Avatar is cheating, if it is, then so is NBA2K6, CH2K6, etc and so on. Anyone could get the full 1K or near it in those games. If the achievements are easy to attain, then that's it IMO.

<--- did the Avatar thing a few weeks ago

I don't think it's cheating either, but I will admit that I question the people who expressly go and rent that game just to get gamerscore...that's kinda out there. I think it's cool when you do something that gets an achievement, but Avatar is just so simple that you're being a whore just to get your score up.

I know you aren't fighting for high score or anything...I personally don't care about the cheating because it doesn't affect me at all. I can still play and unlock things and know I'm legit, friends I compare with I can trust and know they haven't cheated....The only way cheating affects me is if I'm comparing with the leaderboards, so I don't...

[Altimus]

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I don't care about the leaderboard, but I have a fun time getting them. My 33K isn't even in the top 1,000 or even 5,000 gamerscores, but I have a blast getting achievements.

I don't feel Avatar is cheating, if it is, then so is NBA2K6, CH2K6, etc and so on. Anyone could get the full 1K or near it in those games. If the achievements are easy to attain, then that's it IMO.

<--- did the Avatar thing a few weeks ago

You're ranked in the top 10,000 in the US.

I used Avatar as well. So did Rocky and a bunch of other OSers.

Wonder if PS will have a score or number of how many trophies you have?

[ExtremeGamer]

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I don't think it's cheating either, but I will admit that I question the people who expressly go and rent that game just to get gamerscore...that's kinda out there. I think it's cool when you do something that gets an achievement, but Avatar is just so simple that you're being a whore just to get your score up.

I know you aren't fighting for high score or anything...I personally don't care about the cheating because it doesn't affect me at all. I can still play and unlock things and know I'm legit, friends I compare with I can trust and know they haven't cheated....The only way cheating affects me is if I'm comparing with the leaderboards, so I don't...

Agreed. I paid nothing to rent Avatar so it didn't mean anything to me, it's why I took so long to even do it because I wasn't about to pay money for the rental.

I don't care who cheats or what not either, I just enjoy getting the achievements, it's cool when I accomplish something and it pops up acknowledging it, to me, it's one of the better improvements for next gen period. But that's me, and I'm an admitted achievement whore

I need to start Achievement Whores Anonymous or something.

[Pared]

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I don't understand the infatuation with the Gamerscore. At all.

Kudos to MS for making gamers care about nothing though.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I don't understand the infatuation with the Gamerscore. At all.

Kudos to MS for making gamers care about nothing though.

For me, it's the same as playing a game to get a high score, I'm playing a multitude of games for a high score.

[Altimus]

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I don't understand the infatuation with the Gamerscore. At all.

Kudos to MS for making gamers care about nothing though.

You know you'll want to unlock that big trophy of Spider-man when that new games hits to have in Home.

[Pared]

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lol As much as I love Spiderman... I really won't. Unless it does something like give me a new costume or something I don't really care.

I see how achievements extend the life of a game sometimes... like in NBA 2k where you have to come back down from 10 in the 4th quarter or so... but I don't understand the infatuation with the numerical part of a gamerscore... kind of like, "Yeah, I have 20,000 more points than you, I'm hardcore" or "I'm in the top 50 of Gamerscores."

You don't get anything. I don't see the appeal. I don't know. I'm just getting older I guess. I can't recall ever caring about the high score in anything outside of an arcade... and that was only a few games... like NBA Jam.