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[mgoblue]

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Well I feel similar about people crying monopoly but I don't know about stabbing people in the eyes... maybe kicking them in the teeth?

That works too...I guess people have no idea what a monopoly really is. It's just funny...people don't care that there's no competition for NFL jerseys, NBA player's shoes, there's "official" hats for leagues, etc. Those are exactly the same exclusive deals. Sure, I want competition too, but when people want the law to come down on EA it's just comical.

[jmood88]

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That works too...I guess people have no idea what a monopoly really is. It's just funny...people don't care that there's no competition for NFL jerseys, NBA player's shoes, there's "official" hats for leagues, etc. Those are exactly the same exclusive deals. Sure, I want competition too, but when people want the law to come down on EA it's just comical.

People don't care because it doesn't affect them. A hat is a hat but games are different and people are just sick of seeing EA buy every company out there.

[SageInfinite]

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If EA really tried to make a console, I'd just love to see them fall on their ***.

[xrams]

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That works too...I guess people have no idea what a monopoly really is. It's just funny...people don't care that there's no competition for NFL jerseys, NBA player's shoes, there's "official" hats for leagues, etc. Those are exactly the same exclusive deals. Sure, I want competition too, but when people want the law to come down on EA it's just comical.

for the 10 trillionth time it's not the same.... I can get or make an NFL jersey from any clothing store... exclusivity can't stop me from having a knockoff....

But EA is stopping me from playing a alternative game....!!!

[SportsTop]

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for the 10 trillionth time it's not the same.... I can get or make an NFL jersey from any clothing store... exclusivity can't stop me from having a knockoff....

But EA is stopping me from playing a alternative game....!!!

No, but the law can.

Your knockoffs are illegal.

[xrams]

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No, but the law can.

Your knockoffs are illegal.

Squint what I mean is I can have my mother make a NFL jersey.... any1 with a sewing machine can make a jersey.... the point is the exclusivity can't stop me for wearing what I want.... EA's move could impact sports gaming permanently.... as far as if I play sports games in the future....

[SportsTop]

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Squint what I mean is I can have my mother make a NFL jersey.... any1 with a sewing machine can make a jersey.... the point is the exclusivity can't stop me for wearing what I want.... EA's move could impact sports gaming permanently.... as far as if I play sports games in the future....

And you had your "knockoff" football game this year....APF2k8. You'll likely have one this year or next with Backbreaker.

[xrams]

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And you had your "knockoff" football game this year....APF2k8. You'll likely have one this year or next with Backbreaker.

Yes, that Knockoff I still play/enjoy.... even more so since the SB, having the shadow of EA looming over 2K is a chilling prospect.... and the audacity of EA having it's own console would spell doom for EA as company... for the very reason EA feels the need to assimilate more successful publishers due to its inability to produce big hit IPs is only a harbinger of what a EA console would be like.... stagnation in the realm of cutting edge graphics and technology....

Whom on these boards really feels that EA will push any envelope of graphics or technology…!?!?!? We all know there business plan…. Buy out any Publisher with a money making IP…. and does any1 think and EA console would be B/C for all their previous games...??? I doubt it....

[mgoblue]

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Squint what I mean is I can have my mother make a NFL jersey.... any1 with a sewing machine can make a jersey.... the point is the exclusivity can't stop me for wearing what I want.... EA's move could impact sports gaming permanently.... as far as if I play sports games in the future....

You could make your own NFL game with a computer and coding...you just can't sell it (just like your mom can't sell homemade NFL jerseys, they'd sue her so fast if she did that). Going by your logic there's nothing stopping you from making a NFL game for your own personal use.

Your "Clothing is different" comment just doesn't work IMO. EA is licensing the right to make NFL games, not football. They're making APF and Backbreaker, this isn't a monopoly. The NFL can do whatever it wants with their rights.

It's funny how people hate EA but it's the NFL that wanted to go exclusive. XRams, do you hate the NFL for excluding 2k? Why is there never any hate against the NFL, or is it too tough to hate on the organization we all blindly follow every fall? EA's just easier to hate, we can't yell at our perfect NFL.

[SageInfinite]

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You could make your own NFL game with a computer and coding...you just can't sell it (just like your mom can't sell homemade NFL jerseys, they'd sue her so fast if she did that). Going by your logic there's nothing stopping you from making a NFL game for your own personal use.

Your "Clothing is different" comment just doesn't work IMO. EA is licensing the right to make NFL games, not football. They're making APF and Backbreaker, this isn't a monopoly. The NFL can do whatever it wants with their rights.

It's funny how people hate EA but it's the NFL that wanted to go exclusive. XRams, do you hate the NFL for excluding 2k? Why is there never any hate against the NFL, or is it too tough to hate on the organization we all blindly follow every fall? EA's just easier to hate, we can't yell at our perfect NFL.

My hate is equal for both. Actually now that I think about it, its more for EA. I still enjoy watching the NFL, but playing NFL football games, I can't say the same. Also EA snatched up every football license worth anything, which really makes me wonder who approached who first. Also there was a article on gamespot saying EA had approached the NFL before the deal went down. I guess with Madden's sales and the NFL not happy about NFL 2K5 selling for 20 bucks, they finally decided to go exclusive. So yea now that I think about it I hate EA more, lol.

[bkfount]

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Squint what I mean is I can have my mother make a NFL jersey.... any1 with a sewing machine can make a jersey.... the point is the exclusivity can't stop me for wearing what I want.... EA's move could impact sports gaming permanently.... as far as if I play sports games in the future....

it honestly doesn't matter what you want. The NFL doesn't run because it has a desire to please people like you or me, they are in it for the money. The NFL has the legal right to sell it's unique license however it chooses. People got mad that iphones are locked to AT&T, but Apple has every right to do as they choose with their business. What would be the point of having a business if you couldn't reap the financial rewards of your unique products?

The NFL didn't set out to piss off 2k fans by going exclusive with EA, just like Apple didn't set out to upset people who don't like the iphone being locked to AT&T. They do it all for the money.

[mgoblue]

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My hate is equal for both. Actually now that I think about it, its more for EA. I still enjoy watching the NFL, but playing NFL football games, I can't say the same. Also EA snatched up every football license worth anything, which really makes me wonder who approached who first. Also there was a article on gamespot saying EA had approached the NFL before the deal went down. I guess with Madden's sales and the NFL not happy about NFL 2K5 selling for 20 bucks, they finally decided to go exclusive. So yea now that I think about it I hate EA more, lol.

I've read that it was the NFL shopping around for exclusives...Just saying, it seems like people just want to hate on EA so they'll start to twist things.

I don't like what EA has done with a lot of their series, but the NFL controls its licenses. People don't want to hate on the NFL, but it takes two to tango.

You're more level headed than most here, and even you don't fully want to hate the NFL

[SageInfinite]

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I've read that it was the NFL shopping around for exclusives...Just saying, it seems like people just want to hate on EA so they'll start to twist things.

I don't like what EA has done with a lot of their series, but the NFL controls its licenses. People don't want to hate on the NFL, but it takes two to tango.

You're more level headed than most here, and even you don't fully want to hate the NFL

I mean maybe Gamespot was misinformed who knows but I know I've read an article saying it was EA shopping in 2004 I think. Anyway it doesn't matter, I agree with you. There is a lot of blind hate for EA. I also hate the NFL for getting a little softer over the years. The difference is I can still enjoy the NFL. It has enough going for it that I can still enjoy games every Sunday, Monday, and sometimes Sat and Thurs. I can't say the same for Madden. If EA made a game that was superior to every football game prior to the exclusive license, man I would be the biggest EA fanboy, lol. That isn't the case. The game has just gotten worse, and the thing is they have better technology now to play with and people are dying for a Madden that plays like the last gen game. When the last gen game was out people were bashing that(not me personally) so that should lets you know how bad its gotten, at least here in the hardcore community.

People say well if you owned EA you'd do the same thing. Personally I can't say I'd go about it that way. I wouldn't snatch up the license so I would be the only one that could make the game, I'd make my game so good no one else would wanna make an NFL game, lol. I'd use my money to embarrass the competition instead of shutting them out. That's my biggest problem with EA. Hey business is business, sucks for us gamers tho man. Maybe just maybe EA can do something in the near future to change my tune.

[xrams]

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You could make your own NFL game with a computer and coding...you just can't sell it (just like your mom can't sell homemade NFL jerseys, they'd sue her so fast if she did that). Going by your logic there's nothing stopping you from making a NFL game for your own personal use.

Yes and no mgoblue…. Yes I could make and NFL game for my private use and I could just give it away as long as I don’t profit I’m in the clear…. And No my mom can’t sell jerseys claiming that they’re authentic NFL product… however she could sell clothes with NFL colors and bears or rams logos as long as they’re characters of the real logos….. furthermore Chaps and Starter make NFL approved clothes just to name two… there just not authentic NFL apparel….
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Your "Clothing is different" comment just doesn't work IMO. EA is licensing the right to make NFL games, not football. They're making APF and Backbreaker, this isn't a monopoly. The NFL can do whatever it wants with their rights.

I must strongly disagree… Clothes in this context don’t evolve…. Two pieces of cloth stitched together with holes to fit human appendages, that can be made by any1 on the planet… within a few days yet…. And you compare that to a complex work of software programming made buy a team of pros (which takes yrs.) that does evolve and change….

The product produced by 2K and EA is purchased by consumers for an unique experience… a piece of clothing can hardly supply the same experience 2K8 can… I’m not decrying NFL for what it does with its shield….. But I do have great disdain for EA’s blatant blockade of comp… and there obvious demonstrative efforts to stop the evolution of sports gaming…. Because if EA is the only publisher producing sports games it will be just like buying a plane white T-shirt…. This also goes for any attempt by EA to consolidate their games on one console….

It's funny how people hate EA but it's the NFL that wanted to go exclusive. XRams, do you hate the NFL for excluding 2k? Why is there never any hate against the NFL, or is it too tough to hate on the organization we all blindly follow every fall? EA's just easier to hate, we can't yell at our perfect NFL.

mgoblue It’s been proven time and time again that EA enticed the NFL to go exclusive…. I only need point out the EA not only swallowed the NFL but all vestiges of Football in the US in order to prevent 2K from publishing a game…. EA invites hate…. Just look a the current hostile takeover to the only other US sports gaming comp EA has….

[Pared]

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.....while those that don't visit internet sites like OS are happy with Madden year in, year out.

I wouldn't say this for sure. I know plenty of people who play it out of routine that aren't happy with the game. They just don't (or don't know how to) voice their opinions.