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  • NYGiants4Natic
    Banned
    • Apr 2010
    • 2046

    #721
    Re: Gaming headsets

    Originally posted by rezneffix
    I couldn't agree more. The driver which is the component of the headphone that produces the sound is probably the most important thing when you are considering a headphone (see figure below). "Headset" is a fancy term to sell highly overpriced pre-packaged headphone/mic combos to gamers who are frankly not willing to take the time to research and see if what they are buying is truly worth it. If you want a decent setup you can buy a good quality headphone like the ones posted above and pair it with a good amplifier like the mixamp or the turtlebeach DSS2 (if surround sound is your thing) and I guarantee you the sound quality will be better than any pre-packaged combo gaming headsets you can buy in the market.

    I have little to no knowledge on how the xbox one outputs audio but I can tell you a thing or two about the PS4. The PS4 outputs game audio through the optical port (digital out). You can use a DSS2 or even a DSS amplifier to output amplify that sound into a good quality headset. All you will need then is a syba usb attachment to make your chat audio in/out functional. Just so that you guys know that I am not posting this to be critical or condescending towards anyone, if any of you actually would like to see a detailed wiring diagram of such a set up I will be more than willing to help you out with that.

    Here is a pair of headphones that are better than any of the "headsets" mentioned in previous posts such as the astro a40s and a50s. It only costs a fraction of those headsets at $28 bucks.

    https://www.amazon.com/Superlux-681-...perlux+headset

    are they wireless is what people are not getting...If not then TB and Astro will continue to charge 300 because they offer that ability.

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    • rezneffix
      Rookie
      • Apr 2014
      • 144

      #722
      Re: Gaming headsets

      Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
      are they wireless is what people are not getting...If not then TB and Astro will continue to charge 300 because they offer that ability.
      I can see that. I guess the point I should have made on top of what I posted is it is difficult to obtain the convenience of a wireless configuration and good quality sound. Either quality or convenience is typically sacrificed at the convenience of the other. However, if sound quality is your primary goal and you are willing to sacrifice wireless capability then the way to go would be what I posted above.
      Gig 'em, Aggies!

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      • NYGiants4Natic
        Banned
        • Apr 2010
        • 2046

        #723
        Re: Gaming headsets

        Originally posted by rezneffix
        I can see that. I guess the point I should have made on top of what I posted is it is difficult to obtain the convenience of a wireless configuration and good quality sound. Either quality or convenience is typically sacrificed at the convenience of the other. However, if sound quality is your primary goal and you are willing to sacrifice wireless capability then the way to go would be what I posted above.
        Yea sound quality is best in reference headphones but gaming is about being easily accessible. Most console gamers rock from big tv and living rooms for most part. PC gamers rock on desktops which is easier to plug wires.

        Astro and TB make excellent sounding (not reference) headphones that offer wireless tech and that is why they can charge 300

        Most people do not want to start buying pieces from diff places to get a better sounding headphone to work. The prefer one purchase and no wires. Is 300 a lot? heck yea but we cant do nothing about it because we require wireless

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        • rezneffix
          Rookie
          • Apr 2014
          • 144

          #724
          Re: Gaming headsets

          Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
          Yea sound quality is best in reference headphones but gaming is about being easily accessible. Most console gamers rock from big tv and living rooms for most part. PC gamers rock on desktops which is easier to plug wires.

          Astro and TB make excellent sounding (not reference) headphones that offer wireless tech and that is why they can charge 300

          Most people do not want to start buying pieces from diff places to get a better sounding headphone to work. The prefer one purchase and no wires. Is 300 a lot? heck yea but we cant do nothing about it because we require wireless
          I would quite honestly like to see some statistics on that. I do agree with you that console gamers probably do for the most part play on a tv as opposed to a monitor. I myself having a pc gaming background have a pc like setup even for my console. I know a few other people that do the same. However, majority still probably use a tv even for games like first person shooters. At this point though I am a bit unsure what point you are making that opposes the point I made. I believe I have already mentioned that convenience results in sacrificing quality. Achieving quality also usually results in sacrificing convenience. I am not sure if I can make that any more clear. In other words I am making more of an objective statement rather than counter-arguing the point you are making. I will rest my case here. If anyone is interested in a quality audio setup (NON-WIRELESS) feel free to contact me.

          Perhaps, the title of this thread could be changed to "WIRELESS GAMING HEADSETS" and that would fit the narrative of many posting in this thread and would essentially eliminate me from posting about wired setups. .
          Gig 'em, Aggies!

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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #725
            Re: Gaming headsets

            I see the "reason" console gamers want wireless. For me, I can't game on a couch type setup. I want multi-monitors (multitask while gaming, discord, music, twitter, etc), gaming chair support, fast response monitor, and GREAT SOUND.

            So being that I don't "NEED" wireless, I surely wasn't going with Astro's or the equivalent headset. I was going to use a quality pair of cans and that came down to an array of options which will all stomp the "gaming headsets" in terms of quality.

            First up, OPEN BACK......you need an open back if you want to get a true spacial awareness with your sound stage. Closed back cans just can't create the airiness needed to accurately depict where individual sounds are coming from. Listening to a live concert with a excellent pair of open back cans, you can hear exactly how far to the left or right the bassist is, or just how deep to the rear the drummer is, or in gaming terms where exactly those foot steps are coming from. Not just left or right channel but distance, height, pin point direction.

            Next would be the drivers themselves. Most decent cans (except maybe Sennheiser rocks some low ohm drivers which are good quality) will feature high impedance cans which require more power to push BUT you will get higher quality sound because of this. This is where you get the inclusion of DACs/AMPs, but that extends past this discussion.

            You have several headphones far under the Astro $300 price point which will offer far better sound.

            Sennheisser 598's is a great starter pair. Open back, low ohm of 50ohm so they will work with everything no amp needed, plus lean towards rich mids. At an affordable $150 price point.

            Beyerdynamic DT990 is your mid level everyday pair. Open back, very comfortable, higher 250 ohm so you will require a dac/amp, they lean towards the highs/treble, excellent positional sound. Price point of $200.

            I went with AKG's 612 pros. Similar to the Beyerdynamic in a lot of regards, #1 for me was comfort after coming from Sennheisser which can be a bit "clampy". Open back, 120 ohm so amp was required, reference can so the sound stage is more neutral across the board, great positional audio with slight nod on the highs, all at a great price of $150.

            So while I see the argument that console gamers make. I play console games just the same but my entire setup will out do a Astro A50 all day and I paid less.

            Mic - Blue Yeti (Insane mic quality)


            AKG K612 Pro (Absolutely gorgeous headphone)

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            • rezneffix
              Rookie
              • Apr 2014
              • 144

              #726
              Re: Gaming headsets

              Originally posted by Phobia
              I see the "reason" console gamers want wireless. For me, I can't game on a couch type setup. I want multi-monitors (multitask while gaming, discord, music, twitter, etc), gaming chair support, fast response monitor, and GREAT SOUND.

              So being that I don't "NEED" wireless, I surely wasn't going with Astro's or the equivalent headset. I was going to use a quality pair of cans and that came down to an array of options which will all stomp the "gaming headsets" in terms of quality.

              First up, OPEN BACK......you need an open back if you want to get a true spacial awareness with your sound stage. Closed back cans just can't create the airiness needed to accurately depict where individual sounds are coming from. Listening to a live concert with a excellent pair of open back cans, you can hear exactly how far to the left or right the bassist is, or just how deep to the rear the drummer is, or in gaming terms where exactly those foot steps are coming from. Not just left or right channel but distance, height, pin point direction.

              Next would be the drivers themselves. Most decent cans (except maybe Sennheiser rocks some low ohm drivers which are good quality) will feature high impedance cans which require more power to push BUT you will get higher quality sound because of this. This is where you get the inclusion of DACs/AMPs, but that extends past this discussion.

              You have several headphones far under the Astro $300 price point which will offer far better sound.

              Sennheisser 598's is a great starter pair. Open back, low ohm of 50ohm so they will work with everything no amp needed, plus lean towards rich mids. At an affordable $150 price point.

              Beyerdynamic DT990 is your mid level everyday pair. Open back, very comfortable, higher 250 ohm so you will require a dac/amp, they lean towards the highs/treble, excellent positional sound. Price point of $200.

              I went with AKG's 612 pros. Similar to the Beyerdynamic in a lot of regards, #1 for me was comfort after coming from Sennheisser which can be a bit "clampy". Open back, 120 ohm so amp was required, reference can so the sound stage is more neutral across the board, great positional audio with slight nod on the highs, all at a great price of $150.

              So while I see the argument that console gamers make. I play console games just the same but my entire setup will out do a Astro A50 all day and I paid less.

              Mic - Blue Yeti (Insane mic quality)


              AKG K612 Pro (Absolutely gorgeous headphone)
              WOW! Amazing post. Thank you!
              Gig 'em, Aggies!

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              • choadler
                MVP
                • Feb 2004
                • 2001

                #727
                Re: Gaming headsets

                Nice post above. I got a pair of Kingston Hyper x Cloud 2's and I like them alot. Extremely comfortable. Got them for $60.

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                • Skyboxer
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20302

                  #728
                  Re: Gaming headsets

                  I ordered these a few days ago.. Should be here tomorrow. Getting smaller stuff in before hitting the main PC etc..

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                  • dherrera1015
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 141

                    #729
                    Re: Gaming headsets

                    Need some help.

                    I'm looking for a cheap headset that is comfortable and has a detachable mic. I'm looking to spend less than $70 and get decent sound quality and mic capability to chat with my buddy. I have a PS4. Can anyone give me any suggestions? There are so many, and I'm completely new to gaming headsets and don't know what brands are trustworthy or not. Thanks for the help!

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                    • rezneffix
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 144

                      #730
                      Re: Gaming headsets

                      Originally posted by dherrera1015
                      Need some help.

                      I'm looking for a cheap headset that is comfortable and has a detachable mic. I'm looking to spend less than $70 and get decent sound quality and mic capability to chat with my buddy. I have a PS4. Can anyone give me any suggestions? There are so many, and I'm completely new to gaming headsets and don't know what brands are trustworthy or not. Thanks for the help!
                      I will send you some information in the next few hours.
                      Gig 'em, Aggies!

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                      • SoMiss2000
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 20499

                        #731
                        Re: Gaming headsets

                        Originally posted by choadler
                        Nice post above. I got a pair of Kingston Hyper x Cloud 2's and I like them alot. Extremely comfortable. Got them for $60.

                        Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
                        Same headset I have.
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                        • SoMiss2000
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 20499

                          #732
                          Re: Gaming headsets

                          Originally posted by dherrera1015
                          Need some help.

                          I'm looking for a cheap headset that is comfortable and has a detachable mic. I'm looking to spend less than $70 and get decent sound quality and mic capability to chat with my buddy. I have a PS4. Can anyone give me any suggestions? There are so many, and I'm completely new to gaming headsets and don't know what brands are trustworthy or not. Thanks for the help!
                          https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-...hyperx+cloud+2
                          "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                          Check out www.sliderset.net



                          Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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                          • Picci
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4517

                            #733
                            Re: Gaming headsets

                            The Platinum Wireless Headset, will be available on January 12 for $159.99 (MSRP), $199.99 (CAD).The headset showcases enhanced, highly positional 7.1 virtual surround sound powered by PlayStation’s proprietary 3D audio technology. Hidden noise-cancelling microphones provide crisp, clear communication without the need for a boom mic. The headset combines superior construction and design offering style, durability, and maximum comfort – especially for long gaming sessions. Platinum is compatible with PlayStation VR and mobile devices using the included 3.5mm audio cable.

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                            • Stormyhog
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 5304

                              #734
                              Re: Gaming headsets

                              I have to get a new PS4 headset soon as my current one broke. Does anyone have this headset if so how is it? Thanks.
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                              • jaiman
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 605

                                #735
                                Re: Gaming headsets

                                Did the PS4 Platinum headset come out today or has it been delayed again?
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