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  • joet6683
    Pro
    • Mar 2004
    • 865

    #24196
    Re: Xbox One

    Well here is a semi counter argument for the S...

    We had two original Xbox One, then got two S's to replace those, then two X's to replace those. As it stands, I currently have 5 of those 6 connected.

    -The X's are in the two main gaming rooms, family room with a C8 tv, and in the living room/office with a 4k hdr monitor and C7 tv (connected to both through an HDMI matrix.)

    -One of the S's is in the basement also on an OLED, the B7. So on a fairly same quality of tv as the two X's. I have time and time again thought about getting another X for down there, but the more I use it, the more I convince myself the S works just fine.

    The games are upscaled to 4k internally. While the textures arent as good, they still look fine enough. It also uses HDR for games that support it which is a bigger jump in quality than the resolution to me. The performance - I dont know if I have really played enough on it to notice the difference between on there and the X. I do notice lower textures/graphics, but haven't on performance. Streaming is netflix is 4k and HDR, Hulu live tv works the same.

    Add to that he said he is still using a 1080p tv. While the X and Pro downsampling will make it look better and perform better in the games that are set to do so - he didnt notice a difference with the Pro, so likely wouldnt with the X either.

    I'd say if you don't have a 4k tv and didnt notice a huge difference with the Pro on it, going with the S would be just fine if you wanted to get back into Xbox. Then you'd save 240 or so that you could put towards the next consoles which are supposedly only 2-3 years away.

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    • NoleFan
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 12855

      #24197
      Re: Xbox One

      Originally posted by joet6683
      Well here is a semi counter argument for the S...

      We had two original Xbox One, then got two S's to replace those, then two X's to replace those. As it stands, I currently have 5 of those 6 connected.

      -The X's are in the two main gaming rooms, family room with a C8 tv, and in the living room/office with a 4k hdr monitor and C7 tv (connected to both through an HDMI matrix.)

      -One of the S's is in the basement also on an OLED, the B7. So on a fairly same quality of tv as the two X's. I have time and time again thought about getting another X for down there, but the more I use it, the more I convince myself the S works just fine.

      The games are upscaled to 4k internally. While the textures arent as good, they still look fine enough. It also uses HDR for games that support it which is a bigger jump in quality than the resolution to me. The performance - I dont know if I have really played enough on it to notice the difference between on there and the X. I do notice lower textures/graphics, but haven't on performance. Streaming is netflix is 4k and HDR, Hulu live tv works the same.

      Add to that he said he is still using a 1080p tv. While the X and Pro downsampling will make it look better and perform better in the games that are set to do so - he didnt notice a difference with the Pro, so likely wouldnt with the X either.

      I'd say if you don't have a 4k tv and didnt notice a huge difference with the Pro on it, going with the S would be just fine if you wanted to get back into Xbox. Then you'd save 240 or so that you could put towards the next consoles which are supposedly only 2-3 years away.

      You worded it much better than I did! LOL


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      • ODogg
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #24198
        Re: Xbox One

        You guys are aware the Xbox One S doesn't output 4K for games correct? It has HDR for games but not 4K. That's one reason I thought it was a bad trade. Secondly in terms of game selection the PS4 has it beat.

        One big reason I think a PS4 Pro for an X is a good trade is the possible future game selection because the hardware of the X is so great, but for what is out now the PS4 Pro has the Xbox One S beat in that sense...

        And I know that it wasn't going to be used on a 4K tv but that is always an option for a future upgrade and if so, it matters then.

        Anyways, to each their own but having own all of the systems I would never trade a PS4 Pro for an Xbox One S but for an Xbox One X I most definitely would..
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        • NoleFan
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 12855

          #24199
          Re: Xbox One

          Man, I posted my Pro on the Facebook Marketplace and my messenger is blowing up. Even had a guy offer to trade me a car of some sort [emoji23]


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          • peter42O
            MVP
            • May 2018
            • 1991

            #24200
            Re: Xbox One

            NoleFan said that he doesn't own a 4K HDR TV and has no plans to buy one so 4K resolution and HDR on either Pro or the Xbox One Slim won't matter.

            Here's my suggestion if you really want to get an Xbox One Slim - sell the PS4 Pro for like $350 which is definitely possible since stores seem to have a shortage at the moment so try to take advantage of that. Then, I would hold onto that money until Black Weekend where you'll probably be able to either get the Xbox One Slim and PS4 Slim for $200 each or less OR just buy the Xbox One Slim with a few games and call it a day. Before buying any games though, the day or two before, check if the games are on Game Pass as you would save more money going this route plus chances are Game Pass will be half price during Black Weekend and/or Christmas week like it was during E3 week.

            In no way, shape or form would I trade the Pro for an S simply because the Pro is worth more and with the possible shortage, the value increases. You would basically be ripping yourself off.

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            • NoleFan
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 12855

              #24201
              Re: Xbox One

              Oh I’ve got some digital games from my last foray into Xbox One land. I’m ready to play some GoW 4 lol


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              • peter42O
                MVP
                • May 2018
                • 1991

                #24202
                Re: Xbox One

                Originally posted by NoleFan
                Man, I posted my Pro on the Facebook Marketplace and my messenger is blowing up. Even had a guy offer to trade me a car of some sort [emoji23]
                Wow...so, you're going to trade the Pro for some Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars??? Jeez. LMAO.

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                • NoleFan
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 12855

                  #24203
                  Re: Xbox One

                  Originally posted by peter42O
                  Wow...so, you're going to trade the Pro for some Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars??? Jeez. LMAO.

                  That’s what the guy seemed to think. I have it listed for 330 at present and there’s a guy selling a One X for 350. GameStop only offers 220 but they sell for 380.


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                  • joet6683
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 865

                    #24204
                    Re: Xbox One

                    Originally posted by ODogg
                    You guys are aware the Xbox One S doesn't output 4K for games correct? It has HDR for games but not 4K. That's one reason I thought it was a bad trade. Secondly in terms of game selection the PS4 has it beat.

                    One big reason I think a PS4 Pro for an X is a good trade is the possible future game selection because the hardware of the X is so great, but for what is out now the PS4 Pro has the Xbox One S beat in that sense...

                    And I know that it wasn't going to be used on a 4K tv but that is always an option for a future upgrade and if so, it matters then.

                    Anyways, to each their own but having own all of the systems I would never trade a PS4 Pro for an Xbox One S but for an Xbox One X I most definitely would..
                    I'm very aware. It upscales the content to 4k output so the tv doesnt have to. In theory it shaves milliseconds off of tv processing input lag. When I set output to 4k vs 1080 and the tv scaling to 4k, in my opinion it looks a little cleaner when the xbox does it. I believe it was digital foundry who had a video on it and thought the same.

                    I play on OLEDs which arguably have the best 4k hdr picture and of course the X looks better, but the S does quite well with the picture rendering lower quality textures.

                    Being on a 1080 tv of course the X downsampling will look better than the S output, but as he said he didn't notice a difference with the PS4 Pro so you could argue he likely wouldn't with the X either.

                    A straight trade Pro to S isnt a great deal, but I wouldn't say to totally rule out getting an S as some were implying. Sell for 350ish and get a new or used S for 200-250. Pocket the difference and with the money savings from getting an X and you have an extra 200-300 that in theory can be saved for the next gen systems in a few years.

                    Of course the X is better on 4k and even 1080 screens. But based on what I've read the reasoning to switch isnt for that, but to get back into the ecosystem. The points everyone has been giving is for what's more powerful, not what makes the most sense with the situation he listed.

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                    • XxGamerXx
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2018
                      • 1029

                      #24205
                      Re: Xbox One

                      incredible news for the next XBOX ONE X update

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                      • mgoblue
                        Go Wings!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 25477

                        #24206
                        Re: Xbox One

                        I may add a S around Black Friday, we'll see. Tempted by the X but it's just so expensive. I keep the old ones around for streaming/games elsewhere (my bedroom Xbox One's disc drive doesn't read stuff anymore, but it's fine for normal use and I mostly go digital now). Doubting the X will come down enough in price for me, but who knows.
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                        • RoyalBoyle78
                          Aka."Footballforever"
                          • May 2003
                          • 23918

                          #24207
                          Re: Xbox One

                          Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                          incredible news for the next XBOX ONE X update

                          https://www.cepro.com/article/micros...pport_hdmi_2.1
                          Thats Great news, but my real question is, does your TV support HDMI 2.1
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                          • 49UNCFan
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2460

                            #24208
                            Re: Xbox One

                            What TVs does support 2.1?


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                            • ODogg
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 37953

                              #24209
                              Re: Xbox One

                              Originally posted by 49UNCFan
                              What TVs does support 2.1?


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                              Probably none. So now we all have to go buy new TVs
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                              • 49UNCFan
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                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2460

                                #24210
                                Re: Xbox One

                                Lol useless feature atm


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