Xbox One

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: Xbox 720

Heh, we're getting into tinfoil hate territory here. Google got into trouble all over the world just for recording the locations of wifi hotspots or something. MS or anyone aren't going to get free reign to all of the above without explicit opting into such a program. If you don't want to be their free marketing analysis you should probably stop on forums too while you're at it.

Not true, consent will be giving as soon as you sign up in the fine print. Tin-foil? Hardly so, when they are openly discussing it. MS also would not be the first company to do such things.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Xbox 720

if all this does become real, and even tho0ught I was getting the PS4, I would lose all respect of MS in the console business..


I just image stores like best buy on there returns if people walked out with a 360 and got home and found out they need online just to use there system.

[mestevo]

Re: Xbox 720

A year or two from now that suggestion could be as silly saying Best Buy will have a lot of returns from people buying DirecTV without a TV, or a Blu-Ray player and no movies.

Or perhaps people spending $500+ on a console and accessories will make an informed decision. If that's the reason not to do this, then it's going to happen (see also: 'when i move i dont have internet' and 'my internet might go out' rationales)

[RoyalBoyle78]

With gaming always all you needed was a TV ..hd or not..telling customers they need internet is a big no no imo.

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[DaveDQ]

Re: Xbox 720

With gaming always all you needed was a TV ..hd or not..telling customers they need internet is a big no no imo.

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I would say that MS intended the internet and xbox to go together like a baseball and bat from the very beginning. We should not be surprised and certainly not expecting of anything different.

However, I highly doubt that this will be a required feature to play a game, especially if games are still sold as material items and not digital.

[p_rushing]

Re: Xbox 720

If I get the Xbox, which at this point is in major doubt, I will have to put a piece of paper over the camera. Can't really stop the audio side, but it would the camera. Major security issues though if someone hacks in and is able to see the camera footage.

[AUChase]

Re: Xbox 720

A year or two from now that suggestion could be as silly saying Best Buy will have a lot of returns from people buying DirecTV without a TV, or a Blu-Ray player and no movies.

Or perhaps people spending $500+ on a console and accessories will make an informed decision. If that's the reason not to do this, then it's going to happen (see also: 'when i move i dont have internet' and 'my internet might go out' rationales)

I think you're way too quick to dismiss how big of a change this would be.

While it wouldn't change much with the dedicated gamer, the casual gamer would be turned off by the proposition, even if they had a good internet connection at home. There's just no good sales pitch for requiring an internet connection to play games for the average person, especially that un educated mom who's buying Christmas for her son.

[mestevo]

Re: Xbox 720

I think you're way too quick to dismiss how big of a change this would be.

While it wouldn't change much with the dedicated gamer, the casual gamer would be turned off by the proposition, even if they had a good internet connection at home. There's just no good sales pitch for requiring an internet connection to play games for the average person, especially that un educated mom who's buying Christmas for her son.

I think people are getting hung up on hypotheticals on top of speculation that has little or nothing to do with themselves more than anything else.

[jmood88]

Re: Xbox 720

If I get the Xbox, which at this point is in major doubt, I will have to put a piece of paper over the camera. Can't really stop the audio side, but it would the camera. Major security issues though if someone hacks in and is able to see the camera footage.

You sound pretty paranoid.

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For me right now I'm not hearing anything that appeals to me coming from MS

I'm not a console fan boy who jumps on one wagon because of the name..I'll see what they both give us first.

Screw the gimmicks and one way benefits, just give me a competent product with good customer service for the money.


As far as being a market dummy I was talking about buying the system to be one, not posting on some random forum
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[BenGerman]

Re: Xbox 720

Just my opinion: It's not going to happen.

What I see here is two things... 1) One cannot do it without the other. If the PS4 decided not to do the online only things (which seems incredibly likely at this point), and Microsoft did, guess which would be in trouble with consumers? If I'm on the fence about which console to buy -- and I am -- things like this are game changers. Microsoft almost certainly not risk that unless Sony did as well.

2) Microsoft probably leaks half of these rumors just to see how people feel about them. As we can all see with this particular rumor, it has not gone over well with gamers.

[DaveDQ]

Re: Xbox 720

I do not see it as having to "always be on" to play a game. I do see it as needing an internet connection to initialize the code for the game. After that the system saves that info and you can play on and off.

To have the system just go dark if there is no internet connection is a bit much.

[ubernoob]

Re: Xbox 720

I do not see it as having to "always be on" to play a game. I do see it as needing an internet connection to initialize the code for the game. After that the system saves that info and you can play on and off.

To have the system just go dark if there is no internet connection is a bit much.

That's what they're going for, if the rumors are true.

I've also seen rumors saying Microsoft is looking to sell off a lot of their divisions, and XBox is one of the ones they would sell off.

[jmood88]

Re: Xbox 720

Why would they do that? The Xbox is one of their best selling products and gives them a chance to get the Windows ecosystem into more homes. It especially wouldn't make sense for them to sell it off with PC sales declining and their other divisions not doing so well.

[ubernoob]

Re: Xbox 720

Why would they do that? The Xbox is one of their best selling products and gives them a chance to get the Windows ecosystem into more homes. It especially wouldn't make sense for them to sell it off with PC sales declining and their other divisions not doing so well.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhart...ballmer-loses/

Also a quote from the article.

These trends mean huge challenges for Microsoft.

Microsoft makes more than 75% of its profits from Windows and Office. Less than 25% comes from its vaunted servers and tools. And Microsoft makes nothing from its xBox/Kinect entertainment division, while losing vast sums in its on-line division (negative $350M-$750M/quarter). No matter how much anyone likes the non-Windows Microsoft products, without the historical Windows/Office sales and profits, it’s hard to see how long Microsoft can remain sustainable.