Xbox One

[jacory12]

Re: Xbox One

I think the biggest question I have to ask here is, do you really need one of the two systems at launch? I'd suggest waiting a few months (or even a year) after launch to see how everything shakes up if this is such a big decision for you.


Personally, there's currently a few things that we know that are making me lean heavily towards PS4 at launch:

1. the PS4 is more powerful (maybe about 50% more so, look into the PS4 thread and I explain why I say that - also digital foundry had the same finding)
2. it's $100 cheaper
3. PS+ is an incredible value. Almost $2,400 worth of games given for free since it started, and that's just for North American PS+
4. When the PS4 eventually retires, just like with my PS3, it won't become completely useless because I would still be able to use it for basic video services like Netflix without paying for an additional subscription
5. I've got a Vita and playing PS4 games on it while anywhere in my house is going to be pretty sweet. I already do this with the few PS3 games that support it like Tokyo Jungle.
6. the creepy Kinect isn't bundled in with the PS4
7. Sony's isn't treating Indie Devs like second class citizens
8. Sony has Mark Cerny and Microsoft doesn't

I also enjoy the Sony exclusives more, and I think their first party studios are much better than Microsoft's.

SCE Japan (including Team ICO & Project Siren) - Ape Escape, Siren, LocoRoco, Patapon, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Tokyo Jungle, The Last Guardian?, Knack
Naughty Dog - Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter, Uncharted, The Last of Us
SCE Santa Monica - God of War
SCE San Diego - MLB: The Show
Sucker Punch - Sly Cooper, Infamous
SCE Bend - Syphon Filter, Resistance: Retribution, Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Guerrilla - Killzone
Evolution Studios - Motorstorm, World Rally Championship
Media Molecule - Little Big Planet

Sighhhhh...you're right I really don't need one at launch. Although, it really would be a cool experience for me. I've never really gotten something "launch day" so it'd be like a mini christmas in November.

Thanks for helping!

[Boltman]

Re: Xbox One

Hey guys I need help. Make my decision easy for me. I know this is an Xbox one thread so there will be some bias in here, but I'm ok with that.

At first I really wanted a PS4. The fact that it was cheaper, "more powerful" (I say that in quotes because nobody really knows yet), and because of The MLB the show series.

But now, my gut is telling me to go for the Xbox one. Why? Because the new kinect is insanely impressive, the hype of the cloud has gotten to me and I think it'll be huge for online multiplayer (I play that a lot), Titanfall looks awesome, NFL, TV integration, and the voice control **** is cool.

In a perfect world, I'd buy both. But by the time I did that, bought games, and online access for both, I'd be down more than a thousand bucks. Not an easy pill to swallow.

What do you guys think? Do I follow the crowd and go with the PS4 since everyone is saying it'll be better graphically? Or do I go with my gut and trust Microsoft who says the cloud will make gaming exponentially better? Will the graphic difference be that noticeable to me or anyone for that matter?

I never thought I'd have such a tough decision in my life. So please, give me all the advice you can give. Thanks!

My advice?

Wait until they're both out for a month or so before you purchase, so you know what you're getting yourself into if you're only getting one.

Also, it's a known fact the PS4 has more powerful hardware. That's not even something that can be debated.

That would be my advice as well (bold).

With the news making the rounds about MS "Project Mountain" & their investment of $700 million into expanding its data center in West Des Moines, Iowa...

I'd say if you're a huge online multiplayer gamer (as you say) then that may be the swing in the decision for you.

I plan on both (because I'm sick like that) but ubernoob's suggestion is the same one I'd give for sure. Sit it out a little and let things develop and see where both consoles go.

[Cpre5]

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Hey guys I need help. Make my decision easy for me. I know this is an Xbox one thread so there will be some bias in here, but I'm ok with that.

At first I really wanted a PS4. The fact that it was cheaper, "more powerful" (I say that in quotes because nobody really knows yet), and because of The MLB the show series.

But now, my gut is telling me to go for the Xbox one. Why? Because the new kinect is insanely impressive, the hype of the cloud has gotten to me and I think it'll be huge for online multiplayer (I play that a lot), Titanfall looks awesome, NFL, TV integration, and the voice control **** is cool.

In a perfect world, I'd buy both. But by the time I did that, bought games, and online access for both, I'd be down more than a thousand bucks. Not an easy pill to swallow.

What do you guys think? Do I follow the crowd and go with the PS4 since everyone is saying it'll be better graphically? Or do I go with my gut and trust Microsoft who says the cloud will make gaming exponentially better? Will the graphic difference be that noticeable to me or anyone for that matter?

I never thought I'd have such a tough decision in my life. So please, give me all the advice you can give. Thanks!

Also Sony has 30 exclusives games in development, 20 of them in the 1st year, 12 of them are new IP

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/24/20-games-12-new-franchises-coming-to-playstation-4-in-year-one

X1 has 15 in the 1st year

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-to-get-15-exclusives-in-first-year

[redsrule]

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The only thing that is keeping me from being 100% sure I want the new Xbox now is the lack of baseball game on the Xbox. The $100 higher price point sort of as well, because that is another controller and a game.

Also, there will be adapters I assume that come out after the consoles release so we can use our turtle beach headsets on the new systems right? I didn't spend much on mine, but if I had a $200+ headset and couldn't use them I would be pissed.

[DaveDQ]

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I always say, "I don't need one at launch" and then I find myself needing one at launch.

[Cpre5]

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I always say, "I don't need one at launch" and then I find myself needing one at launch.

That was me for the 360, PS3, and WiiU

[iRepIndiana]

That was me for the 360, PS3, and WiiU

Eww WiiU. .

[Kevin26385]

Re: Xbox One

Does anyone know the technology behind Kinect Talk? How does it pick up conversation noise and not noise from the game you are playing?

[AirLobo23]

Re: Xbox One

I think the biggest question I have to ask here is, do you really need one of the two systems at launch? I'd suggest waiting a few months (or even a year) after launch to see how everything shakes up if this is such a big decision for you.


Personally, there's currently a few things that we know that are making me lean heavily towards PS4 at launch:

1. the PS4 is more powerful (maybe about 50% more so, look into the PS4 thread where I explain why - also digital foundry had the same finding)
2. it's $100 cheaper
3. PS+ is an incredible value. Almost $2,400 worth of games given for free since it started, and that's just for North American PS+
4. Sony didn't try to slap our face with shady DRM practices and always-online, then backtrack and pretend like it never happened in the first place, hoping people would forget
5. When the PS4 eventually retires, just like with my PS3, it won't become completely useless because I would still be able to use it for basic video services like Netflix without paying for an additional subscription
6. I've got a Vita and playing PS4 games on it while anywhere in my house is going to be pretty sweet. I already do this with the few PS3 games that support it like Tokyo Jungle.
7. the creepy Kinect isn't bundled in with the PS4
8. Sony's isn't treating Indie Devs like second class citizens
9. Sony has Mark Cerny and Microsoft doesn't

I also enjoy the Sony exclusives more, and I think their first party studios are much better than Microsoft's.

SCE Japan (including Team ICO & Project Siren) - Ape Escape, Siren, LocoRoco, Patapon, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Tokyo Jungle, The Last Guardian?, Knack
Naughty Dog - Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter, Uncharted, The Last of Us
SCE Santa Monica - God of War
SCE San Diego - MLB: The Show
Sucker Punch - Sly Cooper, Infamous
SCE Bend - Syphon Filter, Resistance: Retribution, Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Guerrilla - Killzone
Evolution Studios - Motorstorm, World Rally Championship
Media Molecule - Little Big Planet

50% more powerful, creepy Kinect and PS+ being an incredible value is going a little too far. He already said he likes the Kinect technology. For me PS+ is not a great value because I already own a lot of the major titles and the others I don't want to play. Plus it's going to be $50 a year anyway. Both MS and PS are doing free games. There is no way PS4 is 50% more powerful and no I didn't read your other post.

[redsrule]

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Microsoft doing free games: Halo 3 and Assassins Creed 2. Sony doing free games: Titles released this decade.

[VDusen04]

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Random question, I'm big on NBA 2K but I'm also big on having correct accessory colors and custom courts and jerseys for created classic teams (i.e. through hexing). I know nothing about the hex system, but I'm thinking that's something only Microsoft gaming systems can do. Am I correct in that line of thinking? And it'll stay this way for the next generation as well, yes?

I wish 2K could just offer correct accessory colors and open ended team, jersey, and player customization.

[ubernoob]

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50% more powerful, creepy Kinect and PS+ being an incredible value is going a little too far. He already said he likes the Kinect technology. For me PS+ is not a great value because I already own a lot of the major titles and the others I don't want to play. Plus it's going to be $50 a year anyway. Both MS and PS are doing free games. There is no way PS4 is 50% more powerful and no I didn't read your other post.

Actually, yes, in terms of hardware power the PS4 has 50% more power based on specs. That is something you literally cannot argue.

Also, it's Assassin's Creed 2 not 3 .

[redsrule]

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Does anyone know the technology behind Kinect Talk? How does it pick up conversation noise and not noise from the game you are playing?

On the 360 it is terrible because it picks up the noise from the game. When I play online anytime I hear someone using a kinect I normally mute them because it's extremely annoying to listen too.

Random question, I'm big on NBA 2K but I'm also big on having correct accessory colors and custom courts and jerseys for created classic teams (i.e. through hexing). I know nothing about the hex system, but I'm thinking that's something only Microsoft gaming systems can do. Am I correct in that line of thinking? And it'll stay this way for the next generation as well, yes?

I wish 2K could just offer correct accessory colors and open ended team, jersey, and player customization.

Yes. As far as the 360/PS3 goes Hex editing is only on the 360.

[Kevin26385]

Re: Xbox One

On the 360 it is terrible because it picks up the noise from the game. When I play online anytime I hear someone using a kinect I normally mute them because it's extremely annoying to listen too.



Yes. As far as the 360/PS3 goes Hex editing is only on the 360.

That is what I figured, they must have made some major tweaks if they are confident enough not to include a standard headset.

I think it could be a great feature for sports games (1-1) but no chance I would turn it on for Battlefield with 64 players.

[Trapper700]

Xbox One

50% more powerful, creepy Kinect and PS+ being an incredible value is going a little too far. He already said he likes the Kinect technology. For me PS+ is not a great value because I already own a lot of the major titles and the others I don't want to play. Plus it's going to be $50 a year anyway. Both MS and PS are doing free games. There is no way PS4 is 50% more powerful and no I didn't read your other post.

I already said in my post that that's why the PS4 is a good fit for me, and why I decided on one for myself. I told him he should wait to see how things turn out after both have been out for a while. You even say you didn't read my post where I explain my reasoning and mention it just to disagree with me for no reason, other than to say "your'e wrong." You're simply trolling me now.

Also, Microsoft's free games are only until December, at only two per month. The first two were also 4 and 6 years old. Thats not even close to the same value PS+ provides.

I take it you didn't read the analysis of the hardware that I linked with results from digital foundry then, either? Here, I'll quote from it and from my other post:

the make-up of the One's GPU is confirmed - 12 compute units each capable of 64 ops/clock gives us the 768 total revealed by Microsoft and thus, by extension, the 1.2 teraflop graphics core. So that's another tick on the Durango leaked spec that has been transposed across to the final Xbox One architecture and the proof we need that PlayStation 4's 18 CU graphics core has 50 per cent more raw power than the GPU in the new Microsoft console

Compute Units (12 vs 18), ROPS (16 vs 32) and 5GB DDR3 vs 7GB GDDR5 (both have 8gb, but the xbone OS takes up 3gb, while the PS4's only uses 1gb). Same architecture (AMD Radeon GCN) and same frequency (800mhz). Though with lowest common denominator, it might not be too relevant on multiplatform games, but the PS4 has a lot more potential if devs want to take advantage of it (which I assume 1st party devs will). Probably a 50-60% performance advantage to the PS4.

Sony is also allowing developers to use a certain number of the compute units (4?) for stuff that benefits from parallel processing. It's to alleviate stress from the rather anemic CPU.

Xbone's 8 core processor will only be able to use 6 of its 8 cores for actual games, since 2 of them are being reserved for the OS, Kinect and the Game Streaming stuff, while SOny has a dedicated processor reserved for that stuff on the PS4, leaving all 8 cores free for games.