PlayStation 4 Discussion

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The notion of either Sony or Microsoft stopping the DDoS attacks from ever happening is unrealistic.

But you can definitely keep hoping it becomes a reality.

Shouldnt be happening so frequently. What kind of security protocols do they have? Even an iron if left to itself can shut itself off because of a saftey valve

[Fresh Tendrils]

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What kind of procedures can they put in place to keep these types of attacks from happening?

[thegut]

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What kind of procedures can they put in place to keep these types of attacks from happening?

Nothing really. Some sites like Google have massive amount of bandwidth that can mitigate such attacks. A lot of companies like Amazon and Netflix can probably withstand such attacks too. But the real problem is that the websites above aren't really targets. When people pull this **** it's typically to troll a massive amount of people. Since the typical people who pull these shenanigans are teenagers they typically go after what their age group enjoys.

So nothing. These type of stunts are pulled by people not old enough to understand the reprecussions and are really about getting attention because there is never any politically statement behind it. As long as cheap bot nets can be rented for cheap you will keep having immature DDOS attacks on video game servers.

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What kind of procedures can they put in place to keep these types of attacks from happening?

Its really weird how MS doesn't get slammed as often as Sony. I don't know all of their options or procedures but I bet there is a difference between the 2.

Nothing really. Some sites like Google have massive amount of bandwidth that can mitigate such attacks. A lot of companies like Amazon and Netflix can probably withstand such attacks too. But the real problem is that the websites above aren't really targets. When people pull this **** it's typically to troll a massive amount of people. Since the typical people who pull these shenanigans are teenagers they typically go after what their age group enjoys.

So nothing. These type of stunts are pulled by people not old enough to understand the reprecussions and are really about getting attention because there is never any politically statement behind it. As long as cheap bot nets can be rented for cheap you will keep having immature DDOS attacks on video game servers.

So basically they're paying useless techs

Tech 1 Hey Marvin, take a look at this

Tech 2 That's alot of data overload, looks like we're being Dos attacked

Tech 3 Wow, this is not good, what are we gonna do

Tech 1 and 2 We can't do anything, just sit here and wait until they finish

Tech 3 What are we gonna tell the bosses about this

Tech 2 Well the teenagers have the advantage over us so we're screwed, just add in that we're doing maintenance so people will think we're working on it.



Yeah, thats about how it goes I guess

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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it seems that sony is back online. Let me ask you guys this. Since this is a thing that cant be stop. Why does it seem they always attack sony. I remember when Microsoft went down once, but it seems it is always sony. What did sony do?

[thegut]

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it seems that sony is back online. Let me ask you guys this. Since this is a thing that cant be stop. Why does it seem they always attack sony. I remember when Microsoft went down once, but it seems it is always sony. What did sony do?

I really don't know. This is a new group called Phantom Squad that apparently did this.

The attacks that happened to Sony last year had to do with a group called Lizard Squad that apparently really hated Sony for some reason. It's the reason why more attacks went after Sony than Xbox. Hell, they even did a bomb threat to the SOE's presidents flight. I don't know why they are so hell bent on attacking Sony.

http://kotaku.com/sony-online-presid...bom-1626249376

[thegut]

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Its really weird how MS doesn't get slammed as often as Sony. I don't know all of their options or procedures but I bet there is a difference between the 2.



So basically they're paying useless techs

Tech 1 Hey Marvin, take a look at this

Tech 2 That's alot of data overload, looks like we're being Dos attacked

Tech 3 Wow, this is not good, what are we gonna do

Tech 1 and 2 We can't do anything, just sit here and wait until they finish

Tech 3 What are we gonna tell the bosses about this

Tech 2 Well the teenagers have the advantage over us so we're screwed, just add in that we're doing maintenance so people will think we're working on it.



Yeah, thats about how it goes I guess

They can do some things but it's not like just flipping a switch. DDOS attacks are difficult to deal with. The US and China both use DDOS attacks because how effective they are.

China's Great Cannon:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Cannon

NSA's Quantum Insert:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailored_Access_Operations#QUANTUM_attacks

This helps explain what is happening and how they try to stop it

http://www.pcgamer.com/why-are-ddos-attacks-so-hard-to-stop/

[Mabster]

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Anyone who is still calling these interruptions of service "hacks" and to do something about these "hackers" after all these times should really read thegut's last two posts and the links he provided.

It's 2016, you're a gamer, educate yourself. These aren't disappearing for good anytime soon.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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The store is loading for me now.

[The JareBear]

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I guess my question is what are the penalties for these ddos attacks? Is anyone going to jail for this? That might be the only way to truly "stop them," by making the risk/reward too intense to justify the trolls doing it in the first place?

Maybe in the long run its just not a big enough deal for law enforcement to dedicate a lot of resources to? I dunno, would love input here.

[Boltman]

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Anyone who is still calling these interruptions of service "hacks" and to do something about these "hackers" after all these times should really read thegut's last two posts and the links he provided.

It's 2016, you're a gamer, educate yourself. These aren't disappearing for good anytime soon.

It's interesting to me because we've been having these discussions going on 3 years now. Tapatalk's search engine for specific posts is pretty dang good.

I just typed in DDoS and my name (because I remember us in here discussing this subject years ago and in multiple instances).

Some of the same people that seem upset (and you have every reason to be) were definitely around for these same discussions back then. So it's not like they haven't been educated on the subject. Short memories I guess.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I guess my question is what are the penalties for these ddos attacks? Is anyone going to jail for this? That might be the only way to truly "stop them," by making the risk/reward too intense to justify the trolls doing it in the first place?

Maybe in the long run its just not a big enough deal for law enforcement to dedicate a lot of resources to? I dunno, would love input here.

Its a federal offense that warrants prison sentences.

The problem is most attackers aren't caught.

[Mabster]

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Its a federal offense that warrants prison sentences.

The problem is most attackers aren't caught.

And the ones that are get very minimal punishments or are teenagers and get a slap on the wrist like 2 years probation without internet access.

This guy got two years is all. http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...e-counts-.aspx

[Mintsa]

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That rubber cover has ripped off both my controller thumb sticks......can this be fixed ???


Or buy a new controller ?

[Boltman]

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That rubber cover has ripped off both my controller thumb sticks......can this be fixed ???


Or buy a new controller ?

GelTabz or replace the sticks if they're too deteriorated to hold the GelTabz.