PlayStation 4 Discussion

**Dog** · 09-06-2016, 04:26 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis

PS4 Slim teardown videos. Looks nice and compact, smaller APU 16nm, and lower draw PSU. The mainboard looks just a little larger on length and width than a desktop graphics card.

https://youtu.be/lExiC4TAkVU

Fast version:

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https://youtu.be/1AXERz8sjuA

Part 2 of Mainboard:

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https://youtu.be/D6XlheFFasM

Some pics:

Looks like one of those toy electronic sets I used to play with as a toddler. Gonna skip the slim because of this.

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**EnigmaNemesis** · 09-06-2016, 04:29 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by Dog

Looks like one of those toy electronic sets I used to play with as a toddler. Gonna skip the slim because of this.

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**Burns11** · 09-06-2016, 05:02 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that board. Nothing.

**The JareBear** · 09-06-2016, 05:06 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis

Nothing in a controlled lab, but still a good idea of how much quieter the PS4 Slim is compared to the OG. By a good 10db on average.

PS4 Slim’s Fan Noise Level Tested and Compared Against Original PS4

Is it using the same 500GB drive or did they stealth upgrade it like the Xbox S did

(it was my understanding that the Xbox S uses a slightly faster hard drive than xbox one)

**The JareBear** · 09-06-2016, 05:11 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by Burns11

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that board. Nothing.

There is something VERY wrong with it. Almost unforgivably wrong....

It isn't fully assembled on my gaming desk deskRIGHTNOWWWW

**EnigmaNemesis** · 09-06-2016, 05:16 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by The JareBear

Is it using the same 500GB drive or did they stealth upgrade it like the Xbox S did

(it was my understanding that the Xbox S uses a slightly faster hard drive than xbox one)

The PS4 always used a SATA3 drive (the drive itself)... same with the Xbox One, that article was wrong on the One S. (Not tech savvy at all apparently.)

The SATA is still SATA2 in the One S because it uses the same Southbridge chip as the OG Xbox One (in which it is locked on chip). Almost all modern 9.5mm drives are SATA3, you just will not get that out of it.

This is not a tech breakdown sadly, so do not know if they updated the HDD controller itself. I do know the PS4 does not hard-lock the controller to the southbridge chip, so they have more flexibility there. But it will probably be the same SATA2 if I had to guess.

**The JareBear** · 09-06-2016, 05:17 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis

The PS4 always used a SATA3 drive (the drive itself)... same with the Xbox One, that article was wrong on the One S. (Not tech savvy at all apparently.)

The SATA is still SATA2 in the One S because it uses the same Southbridge chip as the OG Xbox One (in which it is locked on chip). Almost all modern 9.5mm drives are SATA3, you just will not get that out of it.

This is not a tech breakdown sadly, so do not know if they updated the HDD controller itself. I do know the PS4 does not lock the controller to the southbridge, so they have more flexibility there. But it will probably be the same SATA2 if I had to guess.

Oh ok. Yeah I understand how it all works. I thought I had read that S featured a SATA3 drive and that, in itself, was an upgrade over Xbox One. Guess I was misinformed.

When I had a One I just used an external drive from the get go so I never looked into the stock hard drive.

I highly doubt they upgraded the controller, unfortunately. I think we will have to wait until Scorpio, at earliest, for true SATA3 speeds

**EnigmaNemesis** · 09-06-2016, 05:26 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by The JareBear

Oh ok. Yeah I understand how it all works. I thought I had read that S featured a SATA3 drive and that, in itself, was an upgrade over Xbox One. Guess I was misinformed.

When I had a One I just used an external drive from the get go so I never looked into the stock hard drive.

I highly doubt they upgraded the controller, unfortunately. I think we will have to wait until Scorpio, at earliest, for true SATA3 speeds

Yeah, the site saw SATA3 on the drive itself so they assumed, lol. All the modern drives say that, so that was not proof, just misinformation/misunderstanding.

When it was analyzed it was found to use the same southbridge chip as the OG, which is locked SATA2.

Maybe the Neo will have SATA3. We will find out with a tech analysis teardown when it hits.

**Dog** · 09-06-2016, 05:27 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Tough crowd, I guess

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**EnigmaNemesis** · 09-06-2016, 05:32 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by Dog

Tough crowd, I guess

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I thought it was quite obvious... the sarcasm.

**dickey1331** · 09-06-2016, 05:35 PM

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So PSN is down. Says its for maintenance.

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**EnigmaNemesis** · 09-06-2016, 05:38 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by dickey1331

So PSN is down. Says its for maintenance.

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Currently 'Sign-In' and 'Create Account', everything else is up and running, so if you are currently signed on you can stay on gaming, etc..

Wonder if they are prepping for tomorrow.

**DanH35** · 09-06-2016, 05:38 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by bigeastbumrush

Can't respond to everyone but...

The change in price of 4K wasn't due to a shift in technology...it's due to supply & demand like everything else in the market.

Gamers were forced to upgrade their TVs to play next gen games because they couldn't use standard definition even though you could still watch broadcast TV in SD.

So the 4K argument is irrelevant because you still cannot get broadcast signals in 4K yet. Netflix and Amazon (to whoever mentioned it) are not industry standards so again..this is for a select crowd. Which is my concern for gamers as a whole somehow eventually being forced to buy into something to get access which should be for everyone. I think that's where we're headed with cloud gaming (software purchases, saves, upgrades, etc).

The cell phone analogy is the best answer I've heard here and makes the most sense to me.

And lastly when people question why there's a new product..it's not a complaint. It's a question..lol. So much for healthy discussion instead of right vs. wrong.

I really don't understand this part of your argument. There are no channels that are broadcast in 1080p, should game systems not use that resolution either?

**dickey1331** · 09-06-2016, 05:46 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis

Currently 'Sign-In' and 'Create Account', everything else is up and running, so if you are currently signed on you can stay on gaming, etc..

Wonder if they are prepping for tomorrow.

Makes sense. When I turned on my PS4 a pop up said the network was in maintenance.

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**EnigmaNemesis** · 09-06-2016, 05:48 PM

Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

Originally posted by dickey1331

Makes sense. When I turned on my PS4 a pop up said the network was in maintenance.

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Looked at the Twitter post... then in less than 3 seconds went, NOPE!, seeing the comments, lol.

/SMH

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