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  • dickey1331
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    • Sep 2009
    • 14285

    #30421
    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
    Those that want to upgrade...

    Why wasn't the PS4 built with these capabilities to begin with?

    Seems to me like NEO is for a select group of gamers and not the gaming community as a whole.

    Nothing wrong with that but why can't people question what is going on when the PS4 was touted as "next gen" just 3 years ago? Technology hasn't shifted.

    If this is to appease owners of 4K sets...we can't even get broadcast TV in 4K yet. So what's the point besides this being a money grab?

    What % of gamers are really complaining about FPS and resolutions? I'd guess a very tiny %. Probably the same guys who complain about not enough socks in NBA 2K.


    Technology changes quite a bit very quickly. 3 years is a very long time. Some TV companies are streaming in 4K as well as Netflix, Amazon, etc.


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    • redsox4evur
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      • Jul 2013
      • 18169

      #30422
      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
      Those that want to upgrade...

      Why wasn't the PS4 built with these capabilities to begin with?

      Seems to me like NEO is for a select group of gamers and not the gaming community as a whole.

      Nothing wrong with that but why can't people question what is going on when the PS4 was touted as "next gen" just 3 years ago? Technology hasn't shifted.

      If this is to appease owners of 4K sets...we can't even get broadcast TV in 4K yet. So what's the point besides this being a money grab?

      What % of gamers are really complaining about FPS and resolutions? I'd guess a very tiny %. Probably the same guys who complain about not enough socks in NBA 2K.

      As Dickey said times change quickly especially in technology. Hell a year ago I had no clue that 4K even existed or what it was. And 3D Tvs first came out about 6 years ago. And look how quickly that faded. The sales of 3D Tvs started to decline after 3 years. That's right just 3 years. Also Apple, Samsung, etc. are all releasing new phones every other year, and tablets are probably around every 3/4 years.


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      • Smallville102001
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        • Mar 2015
        • 6542

        #30423
        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Originally posted by redsox4evur
        As Dickey said times change quickly especially in technology. Hell a year ago I had no clue that 4K even existed or what it was. And 3D Tvs first came out about 6 years ago. And look how quickly that faded. The sales of 3D Tvs started to decline after 3 years. That's right just 3 years. Also Apple, Samsung, etc. are all releasing new phones every other year, and tablets are probably around every 3/4 years.


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        While that is true I dont know how long 4k has been around but I never heard of 4k in till like 2 years ago and it was only like a year and a half ago that I had seen any 4k tv any where to buy in store. Also when I first saw 4k tvs they cost a lot of money. They have went down a lot though in just like the last year.

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        • Artman22
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          • Jul 2006
          • 4984

          #30424
          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          I don't know how real this is and to me I'm going to say it's fake lol.. http://intl.target.com/p/playstation...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds


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          • Smallville102001
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            • Mar 2015
            • 6542

            #30425
            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Originally posted by Artman22
            I don't know how real this is and to me I'm going to say it's fake lol.. http://intl.target.com/p/playstation...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds


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            I saw this a few hours ago and it sounds like ever one thinks it is fake. The shape of the top is odd.

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            • The JareBear
              Be Good To One Another
              • Jul 2010
              • 11560

              #30426
              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
              Those that want to upgrade...

              Why wasn't the PS4 built with these capabilities to begin with?

              Seems to me like NEO is for a select group of gamers and not the gaming community as a whole.

              Nothing wrong with that but why can't people question what is going on when the PS4 was touted as "next gen" just 3 years ago? Technology hasn't shifted.

              If this is to appease owners of 4K sets...we can't even get broadcast TV in 4K yet. So what's the point besides this being a money grab?

              What % of gamers are really complaining about FPS and resolutions? I'd guess a very tiny %. Probably the same guys who complain about not enough socks in NBA 2K.
              I think it is pretty clear that the NEO is for "enthusiasts." I guess you could call it a money grab, but there are a group of gamers who just love having the most powerful toys they can buy. If it helps sports games and my other favorite games run better/look better/do better things then I am all for it.

              As has been said before, it is kind of taking page out of the cell phone market and PC market (Graphics card upgrades, in a sense).

              With the way these consoles are built internally now (basically little PCs) there is no more worry about backwards compatibility, so Sony and MS can basically offer options to gamers as far as "how well" do they want to run their games.

              The 4k aspect means very little to me, I am in it for hopefully a consistent standard of 1080p/60FPS/and "High" equivalent settings of a PC version, if that makes sense. For games to run at 4k on these consoles they would probably have to take pretty solid hits in other graphical areas to run smoothly. I am still a 1080p guy for awhile.
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              • DieHardYankee26
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                • Feb 2008
                • 10178

                #30427
                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                Those that want to upgrade...

                Why wasn't the PS4 built with these capabilities to begin with?

                Seems to me like NEO is for a select group of gamers and not the gaming community as a whole.

                Nothing wrong with that but why can't people question what is going on when the PS4 was touted as "next gen" just 3 years ago? Technology hasn't shifted.

                If this is to appease owners of 4K sets...we can't even get broadcast TV in 4K yet. So what's the point besides this being a money grab?

                What % of gamers are really complaining about FPS and resolutions? I'd guess a very tiny %. Probably the same guys who complain about not enough socks in NBA 2K.
                Again, I'm kind of confused at your complaint. Why are you complaining that there is an upgrade?

                The PS4 wasn't built with these capabilities because it couldn't be for a reasonable price. If the Neo is for a select group of gamers and you aren't in that group, then don't buy it. Whatever PS4 was touted as is irrelevant basically, PC gamers could've told you the consoles were underpowered when they came out. Why? Because Sony and Microsoft know people don't want to pay $800 for a box, so they figure out a price and some specs that work around it, and then they optimize from there. We've already had devs compromising with 900/30, 900/60, 1080/30 not like the Neo will necessitate a lock because it's up to them but now they have more power to work with.

                What does broadcast TV have to do with gaming? If companies produce games that can run at 4K (which they can) then what difference does it make that broadcast TV doesn't run through it? There are already people playing games in 4K on PC. It's not really about 4K anyway. The graphics card in the PS4 has a ton of room for more power even at 1080P.

                As a pc gamer, I guess I'm just used to new stuff coming out and not caring. As we have to tell each other, if the graphics card you have is good enough for you, then you don't need to buy the new one. If you're upset because you thought the PS4 was stronger than it actually is and that they touted it as "next gen" then that's just marketing and unfortunately you fell for it.
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                • DickDalewood
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 6263

                  #30428
                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                  Those that want to upgrade...

                  Why wasn't the PS4 built with these capabilities to begin with?

                  Seems to me like NEO is for a select group of gamers and not the gaming community as a whole.

                  Nothing wrong with that but why can't people question what is going on when the PS4 was touted as "next gen" just 3 years ago? Technology hasn't shifted.

                  If this is to appease owners of 4K sets...we can't even get broadcast TV in 4K yet. So what's the point besides this being a money grab?

                  What % of gamers are really complaining about FPS and resolutions? I'd guess a very tiny %. Probably the same guys who complain about not enough socks in NBA 2K.
                  You don't think technology has shifted in three years? Technology? Really? Three years ago 4K sets cost $5K plus, VR was still being prototyped, and consumers couldn't walk into their kitchens and say "Alexa, lights on".

                  If you were being forced to upgrade, I might get it, but you're not. The Neo isn't replacing the current PS4, the Slim is (which happens every generation of consoles). If you don't care about 4K or the potential boost in FPS as you said, no one is making you change. Sony has already made it very clear that all games will be released on both models of PS4. If you're happy with your current system, then stick with it.

                  The Neo will be an option for those who want it. Options are a good thing.
                  Last edited by DickDalewood; 09-06-2016, 09:17 AM.

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                  • ubernoob
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 15522

                    #30429
                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    It's just an upgraded ps4 (and xbone) . If you're happy with your ps4/Xbone performance then there is zero reason to get one and zero reason to complain.

                    If you want a slight upgrade, then buy one. It's really simple.
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                    • DickDalewood
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 6263

                      #30430
                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Originally posted by ubernoob
                      It's just an upgraded ps4 (and xbone) . If you're happy with your ps4/Xbone performance then there is zero reason to get one and zero reason to complain.

                      If you want a slight upgrade, then buy one. It's really simple.
                      Nailed it.

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                      • Fresh Tendrils
                        Strike Hard and Fade Away
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 36131

                        #30431
                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        Wasn't the PS4 originally hyped up to be 1080P/60fps for games, too?

                        I guess I'm of the mindset of I'll believe it when I see it.

                        Until then upgraded technology isn't going to make gameplay better. It might make it smoother, but I feel like there's a vast difference in number of quality titles between this generation and last gen.



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                        • LowerWolf
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                          • Jun 2006
                          • 12268

                          #30432
                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          I'm ready for the 4.0 update. Hopefully it comes this week.

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                          • ExtremeGamer
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 35299

                            #30433
                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                            Wasn't the PS4 originally hyped up to be 1080P/60fps for games, too?

                            I guess I'm of the mindset of I'll believe it when I see it.

                            Until then upgraded technology isn't going to make gameplay better. It might make it smoother, but I feel like there's a vast difference in number of quality titles between this generation and last gen.
                            Yep, PS4 was originally stated that every game was 1080P and 60FPS.

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                            • The JareBear
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                              • Jul 2010
                              • 11560

                              #30434
                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              Has there ever been a concrete reason given as to why PSN name changes aren't an option, as well as why they probably won't ever be? I dunno why it irks me.
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                              • mestevo
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #30435
                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                Likely an account architecture problem. Hopefully one day. We'll never get a reason why until it actually happens.

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