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  • ODogg
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    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #31906
    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    Originally posted by icicle22
    Probably but will need formatted so you will be starting from scratch on both units. Drives are typically encrypted and tied to specific hardware ID so can't just switch. You probably knew that though.

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    Oh yeah, learned that the hard way when I swapped my two PS4 hard drives out to move the bigger one upstairs lol


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    • Smallville102001
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      • Mar 2015
      • 6542

      #31907
      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Originally posted by ODogg
      Oh yeah, learned that the hard way when I swapped my two PS4 hard drives out to move the bigger one upstairs lol


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      I really wonder why they do that in the first place. If you could just switch out hard drives with out that happening things would be so much easier because then you wouldn't have to redownload and reinstall any thing. I don't get why they make it harder then it should be.

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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #31908
        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Originally posted by Smallville102001
        I really wonder why they do that in the first place. If you could just switch out hard drives with out that happening things would be so much easier because then you wouldn't have to redownload and reinstall any thing. I don't get why they make it harder then it should be.
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        • Smallville102001
          All Star
          • Mar 2015
          • 6542

          #31909
          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          Originally posted by mestevo
          DRM.

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          That makes zero since. How is putting a hard drive that you have saved stuff onto any different then redownloading stuff onto a different hard drive? Either way you are keeping what you had and you have to have a hard drive in a system no matter what.

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          • mestevo
            Gooney Goo Goo
            • Apr 2010
            • 19556

            #31910
            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Originally posted by Smallville102001
            That makes zero since. How is putting a hard drive that you have saved stuff onto any different then redownloading stuff onto a different hard drive? Either way you are keeping what you had and you have to have a hard drive in a system no matter what.
            Sure it does, put in a hard drive that is partitioned for another system ID and it's incompatible and has to be formatted for the new system.

            It doesn't make any sense that Sony hasn't provided an ability to migrate the data instead, but the reason for doing it in general makes complete sense.

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            • joet6683
              Pro
              • Mar 2004
              • 865

              #31911
              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by mestevo
              Sure it does, put in a hard drive that is partitioned for another system ID and it's incompatible and has to be formatted for the new system.

              It doesn't make any sense that Sony hasn't provided an ability to migrate the data instead, but the reason for doing it in general makes complete sense.
              But the question is... why is it tied to a system id? A game install is just that, a game install. You'll still need a digital license or the disk inserted to play the game.

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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #31912
                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Originally posted by joet6683
                But the question is... why is it tied to a system id? A game install is just that, a game install. You'll still need a digital license or the disk inserted to play the game.
                Just part of their copy protection scheme. He asked why, that's why.

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                • NYGiants4Natic
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2046

                  #31913
                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Originally posted by The JareBear
                  I was thinking that since a new slim currently costs more than a new vanilla PS4 maybe the trade in would been worth a little more. Probably stupid of me but I was just wondering out loud

                  I'll probably just go the CL route either way
                  Where do you see the ps4 for less then 300...And I mean from reputable retail companies

                  Best buy discontinued it but last week had stock at 300

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                  • The JareBear
                    Be Good To One Another
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 11560

                    #31914
                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Do we have an official date for when RDR will hit PS Now? I'm itching to play it again
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                    • Smallville102001
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                      • Mar 2015
                      • 6542

                      #31915
                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Originally posted by mestevo
                      Sure it does, put in a hard drive that is partitioned for another system ID and it's incompatible and has to be formatted for the new system.

                      It doesn't make any sense that Sony hasn't provided an ability to migrate the data instead, but the reason for doing it in general makes complete sense.


                      No it does not why do you need to make it so that it has to be formatted in the first place? Why do you need to make it have to be incompatible in the first place with out formatting it? Makes Zero since.

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                      • Smallville102001
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                        • Mar 2015
                        • 6542

                        #31916
                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        Originally posted by joet6683
                        But the question is... why is it tied to a system id? A game install is just that, a game install. You'll still need a digital license or the disk inserted to play the game.


                        That is my point rather you have to redownload stuff or could just put old hard drive into new system with out having to redownload any thing they results are the same. Really it is just a extra pointless annoying step they make you go threw for no reason.

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #31917
                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                          Where do you see the ps4 for less then 300...And I mean from reputable retail companies

                          Best buy discontinued it but last week had stock at 300
                          Vanilla PS4 is 234.99 at Costco if that's what you're referring too.
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                          • ODogg
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 37953

                            #31918
                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            Originally posted by mestevo
                            Sure it does, put in a hard drive that is partitioned for another system ID and it's incompatible and has to be formatted for the new system.

                            It doesn't make any sense that Sony hasn't provided an ability to migrate the data instead, but the reason for doing it in general makes complete sense.
                            While I don't disagree with you for the reason you cite, the truth is PCs also deal with DRM and don't have such nonsense. Take a hard drive from one PC system to another and it will work without requiring a reformat.

                            It does have something to do with DRM and copy protection but as has been said, its stupid and in this day and age they need to come up with a new way rather than to cause such inconvenience.

                            ESPECIALLY since they don't allow external drives as Microsoft does, which makes this stupidity even more infuriating.

                            I'm cool with opening up my PS4 and changing its guts out but its annoying that Sony makes it even harder than it needs to be when they don't allow for external hard disks.
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                            • ODogg
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 37953

                              #31919
                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              And now that I think about it, if its all about DRM, why can I disconnect my external hard drive from my Xbox One, take it to a friends house, plug it in and sign in and it works?

                              I understand this being an issue 3 years ago but it needs to go, Sony needs to look at this especially with them not giving us larger system options and/or external drives as an alternative.
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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #31920
                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                Originally posted by ODogg
                                And now that I think about it, if its all about DRM, why can I disconnect my external hard drive from my Xbox One, take it to a friends house, plug it in and sign in and it works?

                                I understand this being an issue 3 years ago but it needs to go, Sony needs to look at this especially with them not giving us larger system options and/or external drives as an alternative.
                                You said the key word, sign in. Your Xbox also isn't installing the OS to the external drive.

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