PlayStation 4 Discussion

[The JareBear]

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You're not wrong. It's the developers that need to make this happen. I just hope the Pro is adequate for this support throughout. Bummed me out they didn't include this kind of option for Ratchet & Clank (those kinds of games really do need the 60 FPS treatment).

And when I said what I said about 1080p, I would be saying the same thing as a 4K owner. Upscaling would have been a really nice bonus for that, to me.

I think every game after a certain point should offer either frame rate or resolution modes and just let gamers pick what they want

Like im enjoying dishonored 2 but id rather be playing it in 60fps with base visuals

[Tomba]

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That is not going to happen folks. Sony rather have nails stuck to their eye lids then have devs make games at 1080p 60fps when they touted the machine as a 4K console...How will it look if many games start coming out with native 1080p resolution just upscaled by the internal upscaler...TV's that are 4K already do that without having to buy a PRO...

Devs will have to fix the issue going forward but making 1080p 60fps as the standard will never happen... Not after what they advertised

I love ya(mainly cuz i think you solved the madden grass issue on PS3 back awhile LOL)

but man you're a party pooper on our placebo 1080p ps4 pro's!!!!!!

that said i played nba 2k17 on a 1080p tv with the pro

and compared it to my xbox one s digital version

ps4 pro is cleaner and smoother

xbox one s has shimmering jerseys ps4 pro does not

[Tomba]

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I think every game after a certain point should offer either frame rate or resolution modes and just let gamers pick what they want

Like im enjoying dishonored 2 but id rather be playing it in 60fps with base visuals

does dishonored 2 have a long campaign?

[RubberSoul]

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Is FIFA a Pro Mode game?

I'm not sure if the patch is out yet or not. Previously they said they would have PS pro support at launch. I am not sure if that ended up being the case or not.


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[sbauer318]

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I think every game after a certain point should offer either frame rate or resolution modes and just let gamers pick what they want

Like im enjoying dishonored 2 but id rather be playing it in 60fps with base visuals

Exactly. Forcing one option is stupid. Sony mentioned competition from PCs as a reason why they created the Pro. The PC platform gives you options. Sony should recommend giving users the option not forcing a higher resolution just so they can check a box in their marketing campaign.

[The JareBear]

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does dishonored 2 have a long campaign?

I do not know the length of the campaign but I do know it's designed for replayabikity both with which character you choose (two characters with different abilities) and style of play (stealth vs chaos)

[NYGiants4Natic]

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I love ya(mainly cuz i think you solved the madden grass issue on PS3 back awhile LOL)

but man you're a party pooper on our placebo 1080p ps4 pro's!!!!!!

that said i played nba 2k17 on a 1080p tv with the pro

and compared it to my xbox one s digital version

ps4 pro is cleaner and smoother

xbox one s has shimmering jerseys ps4 pro does not

2 things...I do not want to burst your bubble but do you rather hear the truth about how the console works or just have someone sell or trade their ps4 thinking they are getting a great upgrade and then fine out they are disappointed? If you are planning to get a 4K tv in the next few months to a half a year or so then is a great buy.

In terms of NBA 2K 17 it already looked better on ps4 vs xbox one s in terms of AA. And the game on ps4 renders internally at native 4K so it downsamples to a 1080p tv nicely compared to xbox one s so it will look better. But that is one game that universally released a 4K update.

[NYGiants4Natic]

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I'm not sure if the patch is out yet or not. Previously they said they would have PS pro support at launch. I am not sure if that ended up being the case or not.


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Yes FIFA is patched for PRO already...It is a 4k resolution bump but that is it...Looks great in action but not so much in cutscenes

[The JareBear]

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2 things...I do not want to burst your bubble but do you rather hear the truth about how the console works or just have someone sell or trade their ps4 thinking they are getting a great upgrade and then fine out they are disappointed? If you are planning to get a 4K tv in the next few months to a half a year or so then is a great buy.

In terms of NBA 2K 17 it already looked better on ps4 vs xbox one s in terms of AA. And the game on ps4 renders internally at native 4K so it downsamples to a 1080p tv nicely compared to xbox one s so it will look better. But that is one game that universally released a 4K update.

1080p mode for the Pro has already demonstrated "great upgrades" in numerous games. It's not on the same level as 4k displays but is much better than you give credit for. You act like you know everything and don't give anyone else room to breathe with any viewpoint that differs from yours.

Your opinion is not fact. I'm sick of this nonsense

You don't know what the hell you're talking about and I'm sick of your misinformation agenda. You need to stop.

[NYGiants4Natic]

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1080p mode for the Pro has already demonstrated "great upgrades" in numerous games. It's not on the same level as 4k displays but is much better than you give credit for. You act like you know everything and don't give anyone else room to breathe with any viewpoint that differs from yours.

Your opinion is not fact. I'm sick of this nonsense

You don't know what the hell you're talking about and I'm sick of your misinformation agenda. You need to stop.

First things first: if you don't have a display capable of 4K resolutions and/or high-dynamic range colors (or a PSVR headset—see below), you should probably put off even considering a PS4 Pro purchase until you get one. While users with standard HDTVs (1080p or lower) can get some benefit from the PS4 Pro's additional horsepower, the difference is so marginal that it's not worth the investment.

On a standard HDTV, the PS4 Pro's extra horsepower sometimes means improving from a lower resolution (often around 900 vertical lines of resolution) to "true" 1080p high-def. For other games, the extra horsepower is used for supersampling, which renders a game at an internal resolution higher than that on the display, then uses that extra pixel data to smooth out lines and edges through improved anti-aliasing.

In both cases, the difference is slight enough that it's hard to make out under normal viewing conditions on a 1080p screen. Yes, if you get right up to the TV and look for the stairstep patterns on diagonal edges, you'll see some difference between the two consoles. If you're just playing the game from a few feet away, though, you're unlikely to notice much of anything has changed.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/11/playstation-4-ps4-pro-review-4k/

[mestevo]

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Not all games can just increase the framerate, most Bethesda games for example I believe physics are tied to framerate, and in other engines the passage of time in the game world is tied to framerate. It's often a more complex problem than being able to just draw the scene faster with better hardware.

[sbauer318]

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Not all games can just increase the framerate, most Bethesda games for example I believe physics are tied to framerate, and in other engines the passage of time in the game world is tied to framerate. It's often a more complex problem than being able to just draw the scene faster with better hardware.

Let's be honest though. That was considered bad practice years ago. It's 2016. They need to move on from physics being tied to frame rate.

I get that it's more work especially when it comes to poor physics implementations and animation engines, but 30 fps just isn't acceptable for most games.

Fallout 4 runs at 60 fps on PC as does Dishonored. They can figure it out moving forward. If they don't want to invest the time for older titles, I can understand that, but going forward, there shouldn't be any excuses.

[Altimus]

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Ugh....just found out my Vizio 4K M series tv does not output HDR. Will this be significant with regards to the Pro I just purchased?


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https://www.vizio.com/news/cat/news/post/vizio-begins-roll-out-of-updated-firmware-for-vizio-smartcast-p-series-and-m-series-ultra-hd-hdr-home-theater-displays-to-support-hdr-10-format/

[NYGiants4Natic]

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https://www.vizio.com/news/cat/news/...hdr-10-format/

That is awesome news for VIZIO owners....

[Flightwhite24]

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Snag this at Microcenter. Hopefully it works out fine for me.




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