Questions About Live TV on Xbox One?

[studbucket]

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Man cortana has pretty much killed voice commands for me tv wise. Everything is such a chore now. Was much easier when Xbox was the command.

Yeah, I understand that. The feedback has definitely been relayed to the guys working on Cortana on Xbox.

It's a bit cumbersome sometimes.

[mestevo]

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Yeah, was great initially, has gotten pretty poor as the preview has gone on. Wife has outright stopped using it. My 4 year old explaining to my 2 year old that it's Cortana now, not Xbox, was pretty funny to overhear.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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Sorry studbucket!

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Not a priority for our household as we've stopped watching TV aside from on demand stuff, but was looking forward to seeing it completed.

Damn I had been looking forward to this since it was first rumored.

[mgoblue]

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Yeah, was great initially, has gotten pretty poor as the preview has gone on. Wife has outright stopped using it. My 4 year old explaining to my 2 year old that it's Cortana now, not Xbox, was pretty funny to overhear.

Ugh, this sucks...not on the preview yet but just frustrated with how it's working, and yet it'll get worse? ouch.

[mestevo]

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Some of it is just getting used to how to use it, and others it's just the feature failing.

My wife will say 'Hey cortana ... (waits for a response) ... [command]' but sometimes she says the command while Cortana says 'warming up' or something and then has to repeat it. I'm a proponent of all at once... 'Hey Cortana Turn off the Xbox'. Cortana will take a moment to get running, think about it, then you see the command on the screen, takes a second to process it and then asks for confirmation yes/no to put it into sleep mode. When the latter works it's perfect, just conversational commands, working as intended and designed IMO.

The problem is even with both approaches, sometimes it just fails. 'Could not get the bandwidth required' or something. Or will be stuck open (known bug, rarely happens) or is just slow (making the usually 'select, next page, next page, next page' style of voice navigation a bit more burdensome.

So yeah, hoping for Amazon Echo responsiveness might be too much of a lofty goal given the ecosystem being served, but I'm optimistic this will be a much better process when it ships, otherwise it should all be shelved.

[mgoblue]

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Some of it is just getting used to how to use it, and others it's just the feature failing.

My wife will say 'Hey cortana ... (waits for a response) ... [command]' but sometimes she says the command while Cortana says 'warming up' or something and then has to repeat it. I'm a proponent of all at once... 'Hey Cortana Turn off the Xbox'. Cortana will take a moment to get running, think about it, then you see the command on the screen, takes a second to process it and then asks for confirmation yes/no to put it into sleep mode. When the latter works it's perfect, just conversational commands, working as intended and designed IMO.

The problem is even with both approaches, sometimes it just fails. 'Could not get the bandwidth required' or something. Or will be stuck open (known bug, rarely happens) or is just slow (making the usually 'select, next page, next page, next page' style of voice navigation a bit more burdensome.

So yeah, hoping for Amazon Echo responsiveness might be too much of a lofty goal given the ecosystem being served, but I'm optimistic this will be a much better process when it ships, otherwise it should all be shelved.

Gotcha....i can try and train her whenever it goes live, but hopefully it's better....

[ricky24]

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It has to get better. Commands are just too long now. It's become a lot easier to just use a remote to do the simple things while watching tv that used to be just a command of "Xbox play" or "Xbox pause". It's not even worth trying to do those things with voice commands right now.

[studbucket]

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Some of it is just getting used to how to use it, and others it's just the feature failing.

My wife will say 'Hey cortana ... (waits for a response) ... [command]' but sometimes she says the command while Cortana says 'warming up' or something and then has to repeat it. I'm a proponent of all at once... 'Hey Cortana Turn off the Xbox'. Cortana will take a moment to get running, think about it, then you see the command on the screen, takes a second to process it and then asks for confirmation yes/no to put it into sleep mode. When the latter works it's perfect, just conversational commands, working as intended and designed IMO.

The problem is even with both approaches, sometimes it just fails. 'Could not get the bandwidth required' or something. Or will be stuck open (known bug, rarely happens) or is just slow (making the usually 'select, next page, next page, next page' style of voice navigation a bit more burdensome.

So yeah, hoping for Amazon Echo responsiveness might be too much of a lofty goal given the ecosystem being served, but I'm optimistic this will be a much better process when it ships, otherwise it should all be shelved.

While I'm not thrilled with things, I've seen some of this get better. I say "Hey Cortana, record that." It takes it ~5 seconds to register, but understands everything. My builds are likely a week or so ahead of yours.

[TDKing]

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Why can't we get an option to stick with XBox? if cortana isn't a major improvement over the way it is now I can see myself disconnected from the TV and just going back to the old way of doing things.

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[SuperBowlNachos]

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Why can't we get an option to stick with XBox? if cortana isn't a major improvement over the way it is now I can see myself disconnected from the TV and just going back to the old way of doing things.

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That's not how MS rolls. It's on Windows 10 which they are forcing on everyone. No reason why they wouldn't do the same on the X1.

[mestevo]

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Options aren't free and if they can get this dialed in right then this will be far superior.

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[mgoblue]

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Options aren't free and if they can get this dialed in right then this will be far superior.

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In theory they'll get it faster and better as time goes on, especially if the dev work gets tied in with the full Cortana team...Fingers crossed.

Also, like has been said, the "Xbox" trigger is short and can be misunderstood. It's why Google and Apple use longer phrases.

[ricky24]

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I'm honestly surprised they released it at all in its current state. Preview or not. Unless they are going away from the tv integration/voice commands angle in general. Cortana is good right now at inviting people to parties if that person shares their real name. Which most people don't but it's pretty much worse at everything else. We are completely back to our remote until it is seriously overhauled.

[mgoblue]

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I'm honestly surprised they released it at all in its current state. Preview or not. Unless they are going away from the tv integration/voice commands angle in general. Cortana is good right now at inviting people to parties if that person shares their real name. Which most people don't but it's pretty much worse at everything else. We are completely back to our remote until it is seriously overhauled.

Well, it is the Preview program, so you should expect things may not be perfect....

[ricky24]

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Well, it is the Preview program, so you should expect things may not be perfect....

I do expect them not to be perfect. I tried to get that point across in the post you quoted. This is borderline not even usable though.