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  • Smallville102001
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    • Mar 2015
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    #16
    Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

    I am sure we will see some comparison of games running on the normal ps4 and the NEO. I think uncharted will be one of those games. But what other games may we see like that? How many games are they going to compare? Could they maybe show Ratchet and clank? How long is the meeting going to be do we know?

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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42535

      #17
      Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

      Why would they do a new handheld after discontinuing support of an already impressive handheld in the Vita, especially when they failed to market and sell it (with its peripherals) the right way?

      I never was a handheld gamer until the Vita, so if this one has wowing specs then color me interested, but I kind of refuse to let go of what I already have because they could still do so much more with it given the right support. Though if it can truly do something close to what a PS4 can do, then hot damn I can't pass that up either.

      They have to learn from last time though. Not just with how to sell it, but ergonomically how to not limit what one can do versus the other.
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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #18
        Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Blzer
        Why would they do a new handheld after discontinuing support of an already impressive handheld in the Vita, especially when they failed to market and sell it (with its peripherals) the right way?

        I never was a handheld gamer until the Vita, so if this one has wowing specs then color me interested, but I kind of refuse to let go of what I already have because they could still do so much more with it given the right support. Though if it can truly do something close to what a PS4 can do, then hot damn I can't pass that up either.

        They have to learn from last time though. Not just with how to sell it, but ergonomically how to not limit what one can do versus the other.
        With a better product not hamstrung by other interests (ie gouging w/ proprietary storage, over designing and adding something like the back plate that few titles used effectively) perhaps they think they can erode Nintendo's hold on the market. They've watched them fail pretty spectacularly with their last couple of console efforts (Wii was a flash w/ no longevity, Wii U struggled to gain traction w/ anyone other than the faithful) perhaps they think they can leverage the PS4's success to move back into mobile also.

        If they'd launched a Vita revision that had dual triggers and clicky sticks I'd probably still own a PS4. Fix the PS4's short-sighted streaming implementation via the new PS4 revisions, release a competent handheld that's focused on the gaming as much as the bottom line and it could be a very successful platform IMO.

        With the Vita it was probably too expensive to pivot, if they were going to put forth the effort it was going to go towards a new product.

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        • DickDalewood
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          • Aug 2010
          • 6263

          #19
          Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

          Well, if you're hanging onto the Vita with hopes that it will get the right support, you're going to be waiting a long, long time. Lol.

          I agree though... despite Sony's epic fail in support, marketing, and sales, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in a PSP/Vita 2. Ditch that stupid back panel, take Nintendo's cue and add additional shoulder buttons, and let's rock and roll. Those changes would also make it a much better remote play platform.

          We'll see I guess!

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          • The JareBear
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            • Jul 2010
            • 11560

            #20
            Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

            48 hours from now we will, hopefully, be much more enlightened than we are now as far as what to expect.

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            • Smallville102001
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              • Mar 2015
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              #21
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              Would Sony release the NEO this fast?

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              • The JareBear
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                • Jul 2010
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                #22
                Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Smallville102001
                http://www.craveonline.com/entertain...eo-launch-week


                Would Sony release the NEO this fast?
                LOL wow....that would be crazy

                Uhm.....I honestly dunno what the precedent is for something like his, as far as it being realistic or not.

                I would LOVE for that to happen, but something tells me it won't.

                There have been so many rumors regarding NEO and whatnot, pretty wild lol
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                • The JareBear
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                  • Jul 2010
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                  #23
                  Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                  Something tells me they mixed up NEO with the Slim, as far as rumors of being released this week
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                  • mestevo
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                    • Apr 2010
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                    #24
                    Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                    Yeah, hard to say. News outlets were confusing the One S and Scorpio too, could be the same thing there.

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                    • Smallville102001
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                      • Mar 2015
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                      #25
                      Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by The JareBear
                      LOL wow....that would be crazy

                      Uhm.....I honestly dunno what the precedent is for something like his, as far as it being realistic or not.

                      I would LOVE for that to happen, but something tells me it won't.

                      There have been so many rumors regarding NEO and whatnot, pretty wild lol

                      Yes there have been a million rumors to the point where I am sick of rumors. The good news only a few more days in till we get real news. I think slim ps4 will come out before NEO. When it comes to rumors the funny thing is Nintendo NX has had a lot of rumors to and a lot that say Nintendo is not going to be at Tokyo game show and Tokyo game show goes from september 15-18. Yet there are also rumors that NX is going to be shown on september 15th or right after or before lol.

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                      • Smallville102001
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                        • Mar 2015
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                        #26
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                        Originally posted by mestevo
                        Yeah, hard to say. News outlets were confusing the One S and Scorpio too, could be the same thing there.


                        Really? It sounds like that would be easier to not confuse thought because Slim and Scorpio are like a year + apart where Sony and slim are more likely going to come out around the same time. So you think the Slim ps4 and NEO would be easier to confuse.

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                        • Smallville102001
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                          #27
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                          Its been a while since Deep down was shown. Could we maybe see it at the meeting on the NEO?

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                          • NYGiants4Natic
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2046

                            #28
                            Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Smallville102001
                            How close do specs need to be to Scorpio to be relevant though? Again I am not saying they are going to be at Scorpio level but I do think they will be higher then what a lot of people think. There is a problem when people say the specs will have not gone up.


                            1. The leaks where months and months ago so how do we know they didnt change specs since then?


                            2. How do we know those leaks where even real?


                            3. The leaks said something about Sony maybe having a NEO that had 4.2 TF and maybe also having one with 5.5 or something. So if the leaks are true that shows that Sony had 2 ideas of what kind of specs to have for the system. So then how do we know that Sony didnt decide to go with the higher spec option or like in the middle between 4.2 and 5.5. So like 4.8-4.9 or something?


                            When it comes to the slim and 2tb and costing 300 yeah that does sound low but I could maybe see 350. Yes I know that the xboxone slim 2 TB version cost 400 and that the xboxone slim is still less powerful then ps4 but it only cost Microsoft like 325 to make the 2TB version. So really you could say that Microsoft is over charging people for the 2TB version. So maybe a ps4 slim 2TB version could cost 400 to make as that would be a extra 75 compared to the xboxone slim 2tb. For 75 more would that cover the difference in power cost? Then maybe unlike Microsoft they could charge less then the system cost instead of more and charge 350 for the system for a lose of 50 per system? A lot of money comes from the games and accessories and because Sony's sales are better then Microsoft it wouldnt be as bad for them to lose money on each system like it would be more Micfosoft.
                            Well the leaks were official documents and to give sony credit for them releasing those leaks on purpose is far stretched. Actual devs have stated those specs are true and they all have received the kits so for that to be changed recently would have been leaked already. They might improve the cpu but it will have to be delayed till next year to do much more

                            If Scorpio does what they claim then neo is far beyond that level. We know how it hurt xbox one this time vs ps4 and that difference was minimal

                            Sony has the brand advantage but in due time people are going to want to get Scorpio performance IF they deliver

                            Also the price of 400 to 450 is even more of a reason that they did not improve it

                            Some people have reported today that some devs are warning that if you think Sony improved performance from leaks they will be highly dissapointed

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                            • The JareBear
                              Be Good To One Another
                              • Jul 2010
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                              #29
                              Re: Sony PlayStation Meeting Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic

                              Some people have reported today that some devs are warning that if you think Sony improved performance from leaks they will be highly dissapointed
                              Dang, I haven't seen this. Is there a site, or a link you have, for where I can see people talking about this?

                              If thats true, I would have lost money on that bet
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                              • Smallville102001
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                                • Mar 2015
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                                #30
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                                Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                                Well the leaks were official documents and to give sony credit for them releasing those leaks on purpose is far stretched. Actual devs have stated those specs are true and they all have received the kits so for that to be changed recently would have been leaked already. They might improve the cpu but it will have to be delayed till next year to do much more

                                If Scorpio does what they claim then neo is far beyond that level. We know how it hurt xbox one this time vs ps4 and that difference was minimal

                                Sony has the brand advantage but in due time people are going to want to get Scorpio performance IF they deliver

                                Also the price of 400 to 450 is even more of a reason that they did not improve it

                                Some people have reported today that some devs are warning that if you think Sony improved performance from leaks they will be highly dissapointed


                                I have not seen any thing saying that the rumors of like 4.2 TF where true so I am not sure where you heard that from and ever one thought ps4 was only going to have 4 GB of ram not the 8 we ended up with. So I dont think we can say the specs couldnt have changed and yes the specs could have changed with out leaking. I dont know why specs would have leaked for sure if specs had changed. I havnt seen the report today about being dissapointed but I have seen reports that the NEO may be more powerful then people think.


                                Brand advantage is a big thing. Last gen ps3 did a lot of the kind of things Microsoft did this gen yet still slightly out sold them still. This gen Microsoft does that and they are getting killed. Microsoft messes up they get killed Sony mess up and they still get around the same sales as Microsoft. Yes Scorpio should have the power advantage but Sony may have the NEO out a year before and for a cheaper price to. Its sounding like Scorpio is going to cost a lot and remember how much hate people gave Sony with ps3 costing 600. Also yes power but ever where you look you see people saying how there is nothing to play on Scorpio.

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