New PlayStation 5 Details Revealed, Arrives Next Holiday Season

[SmashMan]

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But, if you say you don’t see the difference I can’t debate what you say you can’t see.

This is basically my thought process. I can see the differences, but if someone says they can't or don't, then they can't or don't. There's no benefit to lying about it, so there's no real reason to suspect anything's up with it. I'm not in their eyes, they're not in mine; not much more anyone can do beyond that.

[dickey1331]

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I might understand if somebody says it's not worth the hit in other visuals to achieve 60 FPS for them or maybe that it yields diminishing returns in their eyes, but to actually not see a difference, especially in a side-by-side comparison, feels a bit suspect. I'm not saying you're joking, or anything, I'm just saying that seems a little off.



Can you see the difference between 30/60 FPS on sports streaming content? MLB.TV didn't used to do 60 FPS on PC until just a few years ago, and now they do. Anything on something like that? What about The Hobbit and Gemini Man shooting in 48 FPS instead of 24 FPS as films? Heck, what about when some action flicks do 21 FPS in action scenes versus its 24, nothing?



Just curious, that's all.

The only difference I’ve noticed with tv is like the ESPN scroll bar at the bottom. 30fps stutters while 60fps is smooth. I don’t notice other differences.


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[bcruise]

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The only difference I’ve noticed with tv is like the ESPN scroll bar at the bottom. 30fps stutters while 60fps is smooth. I don’t notice other differences.


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What you describe as "stutter" at 30 FPS IS the lower framerate. You call it that because it's not as visually smooth as 60. There's nothing more to it than that from a visual perspective.

Let's try this....The new NBA2K next-gen clip, some of us have probably seen it by now, right? Watch this, and make sure to set the quality to one of the two 60 FPS settings - either 720p60 or 1080p60. Otherwise this exercise is pointless as the entire thing will play in 30 FPS. Also, move your mouse off of the video while it's playing because, at least on my system, the player likes to drop into 30 FPS mode when the controls are up even when I'm set on a 60 FPS setting.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GbOpRPp_vjs" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pay close attention to the tipoff at 1:20. Up until Green handles the ball and the camera finishes moving (including all through the pregame scenes), the game is running at less than 60 Frames per Second - it's probably 30 FPS although it could be higher. The moment the camera finishes panning back into the new Rail Cam view, the game switches to at least 60 FPS and stays there until the player close-ups after baskets or out-of-play scenes happen. The game becomes instantly more smooth and fluid to my eyes when it goes to 60 FPS after that tipoff.

That's the difference between (at least)60, vs. less than 60.

Edit: The quick shot of the team select screen at the very beginning appears to be 60 FPS too. I can see it when Zion Williamson claps his hands. When the Play Now screen wipe comes on, it's down to 30 (or thereabouts) through the whole pregame until tipoff.

[illwill10]

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"Over the next two hours, we're going to be dropping updates on five upcoming #PS5 games at https://t.co/6rfZPfxTMf.

First up — No Man's Sky is coming to PS5! Next-gen details: https://t.co/vlhAUgyrAx https://t.co/Rq69zzEOsa "

This is what I'm looking forward to with 2 weeks left until launch. We should get a steady dose of PS5 and Xbox Series X|S news now

[dickey1331]

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What you describe as "stutter" at 30 FPS IS the lower framerate. You call it that because it's not as visually smooth as 60. There's nothing more to it than that from a visual perspective.

Let's try this....The new NBA2K next-gen clip, some of us have probably seen it by now, right? Watch this, and make sure to set the quality to one of the two 60 FPS settings - either 720p60 or 1080p60. Otherwise this exercise is pointless as the entire thing will play in 30 FPS. Also, move your mouse off of the video while it's playing because, at least on my system, the player likes to drop into 30 FPS mode when the controls are up even when I'm set on a 60 FPS setting.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GbOpRPp_vjs" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pay close attention to the tipoff at 1:20. Up until Green handles the ball and the camera finishes moving (including all through the pregame scenes), the game is running at less than 60 Frames per Second - it's probably 30 FPS although it could be higher. The moment the camera finishes panning back into the new Rail Cam view, the game switches to at least 60 FPS and stays there until the player close-ups after baskets or out-of-play scenes happen. The game becomes instantly more smooth and fluid to my eyes when it goes to 60 FPS after that tipoff.

That's the difference between (at least)60, vs. less than 60.

Edit: The quick shot of the team select screen at the very beginning appears to be 60 FPS too. I can see it when Zion Williamson claps his hands. When the Play Now screen wipe comes on, it's down to 30 (or thereabouts) through the whole pregame until tipoff.

I even watched this video and I just don’t see the difference in games.

https://youtu.be/zquClG3j9so

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[illwill10]

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https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/28/playstation-plus-collection-details-revealed-your-november-playstation-plus-games/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

"
Bloodborne
Days Gone
Detroit: Become Human
God of War
Infamous Second Son
Ratchet and Clank
The Last Guardian
The Last of Us Remastered
Until Dawn
Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
From our third-party publishers and developers:

Batman: Arkham Knight
Battlefield 1
Call of Duty: Black Ops III – Zombies Chronicles Edition
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Fallout 4
Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition
Monster Hunter: World
Mortal Kombat X
Persona 5
Resident Evil 7 biohazard

The PlayStation Plus Collection will be an added benefit to the existing PS4 benefits that PlayStation Plus members receive for a single subscription price – no additional membership fee required. Once you redeem a game from the PlayStation Plus Collection, you can keep the games for as long as you are an active PlayStation Plus member. PS4 games redeemed from the PlayStation Plus Collection and played on the PS5 console will see benefits such as increased loading speed and improved or more stable framerates with PS5’s Game Boost****."

That answers my question. That makes the PS. Plus Collection more appealing that it will receive the Game Boost treatment. There's at least 8 of those games I want to play.

[rsump112]

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I even watched this video and I just don’t see the difference in games.

https://youtu.be/zquClG3j9so

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I’m by no means saying there is not a difference, but the only game I noticed any difference was the Diablo 3 clip. Maybe my eyes aren’t as good as they once were at 47.

[XxGamerXx]

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First game I will install on ps5 is the show to see if the fps in 4k mode hits 60fps

[XxGamerXx]

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I’m by no means saying there is not a difference, but the only game I noticed any difference was the Diablo 3 clip. Maybe my eyes aren’t as good as they once were at 47.

between 30sec and 35sec of AC watch the judder when the camera pans from left to right and if you cannot see how smooth the 60fps is then I do not know what to tell you

[countryboy]

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between 30sec and 35sec of AC watch the judder when the camera pans from left to right and if you cannot see how smooth the 60fps is then I do not know what to tell you

You don't have to tell him anything. You just accept his opinion and move along.

As much as this is hard for you to believe, nobody gives a **** if their approach or way of video gaming matches yours, or appeases you.

And no one believes that your opinion on any topic is the end all, be all.

[XxGamerXx]

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You don't have to tell him anything. You just accept his opinion and move along.

As much as this is hard for you to believe, nobody gives a **** if their approach or way of video gaming matches yours, or appeases you.

And no one believes that your opinion on any topic is the end all, be all.

Sorry Dad, I will leave it alone....

[Junior Moe]

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My charging station has officially shipped from Target. I'm legit getting excited now.

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[Bard]

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I even watched this video and I just don’t see the difference in games.

https://youtu.be/zquClG3j9so

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Wait. Like literally, what's the difference between the two videos? Lol.

30 vs. 60 I can't tell a difference.

From 30 to 120 I wonder if you can? What's it supposed to do?

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[Smallville102001]

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So this game I am getting on day 1. Before this we knew it was day 1 but we didn't have the price. Disc version is 52.99 and comes with a few things. Digital is up for 39.99 on the store.

https://www.iam8bit.com/collections/the-pathless/products/the-pathless-playstation-5

[krtgolfing]

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My charging station has officially shipped from Target. I'm legit getting excited now.

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Mine still saying preparing to ship.. Really don't really care, as long as I get it around when I get the PS5.