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  • USF11
    C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
    • Jun 2003
    • 4245

    #1951
    Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

    Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti

    Isn't that what killed the previous Batman franchise. They started making movies using famous actors hamming it up as the villains (Mr Arnie Freeze and Jim "rubber face" Carrey). Nolan will never resort to that and the next villain will either be a serious actor like Daniel Day Lewis(I wish but DDL wouldn't do it) or someone like a Ledger who can act but doesn't have a huge celebrity persona that will overshadow the movie.

    Someone I think would make a great Riddler who has the acting chops to do it that I haven't seen mentioned and fits the criteria: Sam Rockwell.
    Bad scripts not bad acting killed the 1st go around.
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    • MachoMyers
      Old School
      • Jul 2002
      • 7670

      #1952
      Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

      Originally posted by USF11
      Bad scripts not bad acting killed the 1st go around.
      Lets call it 60-40. Arnold and Chris O'Donnell were never going to nail their performances. Throw in a couple of actors totally mailing it in (Uma, Tommy Lee Jones) and you have some pretty bad performances to go along with some dreadful scripts.

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      • Kashanova
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2003
        • 12695

        #1953
        Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

        i blame schumaker and his nipple bat suits for the batman.

        Boxoffice wise i think by monday TDK should have 400M

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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #1954
          Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

          Originally posted by Xavier12
          Lets call it 60-40. Arnold and Chris O'Donnell were never going to nail their performances. Throw in a couple of actors totally mailing it in (Uma, Tommy Lee Jones) and you have some pretty bad performances to go along with some dreadful scripts.
          Eh, I think Arnie was unfairly maligned. He did bring some pathos to Freeze. It was a passable job. The joke of a script killed any chance of it being more then just "ok".
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          • Hassan Darkside
            We Here
            • Sep 2003
            • 7561

            #1955
            Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

            I saw it again for the third time and it reminded me of a couple questions i had.

            Forgive me if they've been answered already...
            Spoiler

            [NYK|DAL|VT]
            A true MC, y'all doing them regular degular dance songs
            You losin' your teeth, moving like using Kevin Durant comb
            Royce da 5'9"


            Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
            How many brothers fell victim to the skeet.........

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            • Beantown
              #DoYourJob
              • Feb 2005
              • 31523

              #1956
              Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

              Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
              I saw it again for the third time and it reminded me of a couple questions i had.

              Forgive me if they've been answered already...
              Spoiler

              Spoiler

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42517

                #1957
                Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
                I saw it again for the third time and it reminded me of a couple questions i had.

                Forgive me if they've been answered already...
                Spoiler

                Sounds more like one question to me.

                Spoiler


                There were some questionable concerns on what didn't make the final cut of the movie that would have easily cleared things up like this that IMO they should add into any extended version of this movie, assuming they have said scenes and also assuming they release one.
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                • McLite
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 2113

                  #1958
                  Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                  Just saw it a second time. I plan on seeing it at the IMAX for my 3rd showing.
                  - The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.

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                  • Tha_Kid
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 6550

                    #1959
                    Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                    Planning on seeing it in IMAX sometime this week, it was still sold out this past weekend.

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                    • callmetaternuts
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 7045

                      #1960
                      Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                      Hoping all those rumors of the Penguin Riddle and Catwoman (in one movie) arent true
                      Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

                      You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

                      Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
                      add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
                      Originally posted by MassNole
                      CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #1961
                        Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                        Originally posted by catcatch22
                        Still think the Spiderman 2 scene where he tries to stop the train and fight Dock Ock is the best action scene in a comic book movie of all time.
                        Key word there.

                        The movie was amazing but I was sad The Joker wasn't laughing more. But what a freakin' great movie.

                        I honestly think it's up there with SM1&2. Possibly better because the main character was dark... and as we saw in the travesty that is SM3, they obviously didn't know how handle SM in a dark manner.
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                        • ILLCHILL
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 2820

                          #1962
                          Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                          I am and alwys have been a bigger Marvel guy than DC. And I just don;'t understand the comparisons between Spidey and Batman here. In my opinion they were two totally different movies. Raimi obviously wasn't expecting to win any Best Pictures because all it was was corny scene after corny scene with blahhhhhh acting. He was making a comic-book movie. That's not my cup of tea, since I believe X-Men 1 and 2 along with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were simply meant as movies that happened to have super heroes in them.

                          Basically I'm just bitter about the direction they went in with Spider-Man (although I will admit that that train scene you guys are talking about in Number 2 was incredible, despite being brought down by that corny as hell unmasked scene), and it's made more obvious by films like X-Men and Batman in my humble humble opinion.

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                          • Kashanova
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 12695

                            #1963
                            Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            Key word there.

                            The movie was amazing but I was sad The Joker wasn't laughing more. But what a freakin' great movie.

                            I honestly think it's up there with SM1&2. Possibly better because the main character was dark... and as we saw in the travesty that is SM3, they obviously didn't know how handle SM in a dark manner.
                            I think i saw joker laugh in all but two scenes, also that sp2 scene, i don't know if I'm the only one but i thought that scene was vastly overrated i much prefer the joker trying to get Harvey Dent scene

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #1964
                              Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                              Yeah, you're probably the only one. One of the best comic-movie scenes of all-time.

                              His laugh wasn't the maniacal laugh I'd expect out of the Joker... Sure, he laughed here and there.... but the only time he even remotely came close to the crazy laughing Joker was when he was getting punched in the station.
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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
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                                #1965
                                Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                                Originally posted by Pared
                                Yeah, you're probably the only one. One of the best comic-movie scenes of all-time.

                                His laugh wasn't the maniacal laugh I'd expect out of the Joker... Sure, he laughed here and there.... but the only time he even remotely came close to the crazy laughing Joker was when he was getting punched in the station.
                                And then also on that footage where he kills that Batman pretender, right after he says, "I'm a man of my word."
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