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  • MachoMyers
    Old School
    • Jul 2002
    • 7670

    #1531
    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

    Originally posted by fistofrage
    I think that the whole Desmond situation is independent from the rest of the other Losties. While he is obviously intermingled with them now, I think his whole story is following a different path.
    But remember his connection with Jack, training at the stadium and also his Hatch coworker who was the US military officer who Sayid was working with. In my mind he is part of the survivors web.

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    • fistofrage
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      • Aug 2002
      • 13682

      #1532
      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

      Originally posted by Xavier12
      But remember his connection with Jack, training at the stadium and also his Hatch coworker who was the US military officer who Sayid was working with. In my mind he is part of the survivors web.
      I'm convinced that Desmond was thrown onto the "island" because Penny's dad wanted to keep him away from Penny, or Penny away from Desmond. The helicoptor chick was hired by Penny to look for Desmond. Penny's dad is a major investor in Hanso & Dharma.

      The other Losties are there for different reasons, but independent of the Desmond story line. Desmond is being held there as a captive, not sure why everyone else is there.
      Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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      • Money99
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        • Sep 2002
        • 12695

        #1533
        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

        Originally posted by fistofrage
        I'm convinced that Desmond was thrown onto the "island" because Penny's dad wanted to keep him away from Penny, or Penny away from Desmond. The helicoptor chick was hired by Penny to look for Desmond. Penny's dad is a major investor in Hanso & Dharma.

        The other Losties are there for different reasons, but independent of the Desmond story line. Desmond is being held there as a captive, not sure why everyone else is there.
        But I think Xavier12 has a point. All seem to have that "6 degrees of seperation" thing going.
        It's going to be interesting to see how all of this adds up.

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        • MachoMyers
          Old School
          • Jul 2002
          • 7670

          #1534
          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

          Originally posted by fistofrage
          I'm convinced that Desmond was thrown onto the "island" because Penny's dad wanted to keep him away from Penny, or Penny away from Desmond. The helicoptor chick was hired by Penny to look for Desmond. Penny's dad is a major investor in Hanso & Dharma.

          The other Losties are there for different reasons, but independent of the Desmond story line. Desmond is being held there as a captive, not sure why everyone else is there.
          If Penny's father "threw" Desmond on the Island then it almost implies he has complete control over the island. Remember Desmond's boat crashed on the island on his race around the world, the boat that Hurley's girlfriend (name escapes me) gave to him. While I do think Desmond has a connection with the survivors I think it goes deeper than Penny's father. I don't think Penny's father is the "mastermind" or anything behind Dharma, just the reason for Desmond to leave behind his woman and crash on the island.

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          • USF11
            C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
            • Jun 2003
            • 4245

            #1535
            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

            Originally posted by Money99
            What Ben said about Locke 'bringing his father to the island', I'm starting to wonder if that's how the plane got there. Walt probably willed the plane to crash since he was tired of running around. Yet in reality, the real plane was found with no survivors.
            However, this could also be a coverup from the Hanso group. They could have placed corpses in there and doctored up dental records, etc.
            I was under the impression that Sawyer brought Locke's dad to the island. All Locke wanted was the ability to walk & respect of his peers.
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            • fistofrage
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              • Aug 2002
              • 13682

              #1536
              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

              Originally posted by Xavier12
              If Penny's father "threw" Desmond on the Island then it almost implies he has complete control over the island. Remember Desmond's boat crashed on the island on his race around the world, the boat that Hurley's girlfriend (name escapes me) gave to him. While I do think Desmond has a connection with the survivors I think it goes deeper than Penny's father. I don't think Penny's father is the "mastermind" or anything behind Dharma, just the reason for Desmond to leave behind his woman and crash on the island.

              While I am not sure if Penny's dad is the mastermind, I think he has a significant say of what happens on the island, he is the funding behind it.
              Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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              • VanCitySportsGuy
                NYG_Meth
                • Feb 2003
                • 9351

                #1537
                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                Huge Lost News will be revealed in around 2 weeks but ........ I'm not going to make you wait for it.


                - ABC and Lost Prouducers have agreed that there will only be 2 more seasons of Lost.

                - Season 4 will most likely start next January ala 24 style with no repeats

                - A mind-blowing "game-changer" will happen in the last episode this season.

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                • fistofrage
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13682

                  #1538
                  Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                  Originally posted by asianflow
                  Huge Lost News will be revealed in around 2 weeks but ........ I'm not going to make you wait for it.


                  - ABC and Lost Prouducers have agreed that there will only be 2 more seasons of Lost.

                  - Season 4 will most likely start next January ala 24 style with no repeats

                  - A mind-blowing "game-changer" will happen in the last episode this season.

                  Well, I though we already knew that there were only 2 more seasons of lost, 5 total, trimmed down from 7.

                  I can only hope that Jack getting blown into oblivion is the "game changer". But most likely he will become the annoying villain on the other side.
                  Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                  • Money99
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 12695

                    #1539
                    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                    Originally posted by fistofrage
                    Well, I though we already knew that there were only 2 more seasons of lost, 5 total, trimmed down from 7.

                    I can only hope that Jack getting blown into oblivion is the "game changer". But most likely he will become the annoying villain on the other side.
                    Ugh. Nothing would make me happier than to see Jack blown up into bits. And then a crab skull f***s his dead corpse while the Losties, Others and French woman all piss on his bones while singing "Equarius".

                    That's the ending I want. I can barely stomach any scene with Jack even for a few seconds.

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                    • fistofrage
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 13682

                      #1540
                      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                      Originally posted by Money99
                      Ugh. Nothing would make me happier than to see Jack blown up into bits. And then a crab skull f***s his dead corpse while the Losties, Others and French woman all piss on his bones while singing "Equarius".

                      That's the ending I want. I can barely stomach any scene with Jack even for a few seconds.
                      Are the writers intentionally trying to make Jack this annoying or is it just bad writing. Sometime's Locke's character seems really "dumbed down". I can't tell if its writing inconsistencies or just momentary lapses of character.
                      Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                      • Money99
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                        • Sep 2002
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                        #1541
                        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                        Originally posted by fistofrage
                        Are the writers intentionally trying to make Jack this annoying or is it just bad writing. Sometime's Locke's character seems really "dumbed down". I can't tell if its writing inconsistencies or just momentary lapses of character.
                        I've wondered this too. Locke started out as a leader who was always under control. But then he was turned into a whining little doubter that got jealous when others questioned if he took orders or gave them.

                        I really hope it's the writers intention to make these incidences as momentary lapses. But there are times I think it's just inconsistant writing or convenient writing to fit into a 1 hour story.

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                        • poster
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 7506

                          #1542
                          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                          Originally posted by Money99
                          Ugh. Nothing would make me happier than to see Jack blown up into bits. And then a crab skull f***s his dead corpse while the Losties, Others and French woman all piss on his bones while singing "Equarius".

                          That's the ending I want. I can barely stomach any scene with Jack even for a few seconds.
                          LMAO. Good stuff bro.

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                          • Chief Illinimac
                            Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 2365

                            #1543
                            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                            Originally posted by Money99
                            I've wondered this too. Locke started out as a leader who was always under control. But then he was turned into a whining little doubter that got jealous when others questioned if he took orders or gave them.

                            I really hope it's the writers intention to make these incidences as momentary lapses. But there are times I think it's just inconsistant writing or convenient writing to fit into a 1 hour story.
                            I always took it as his real character coming out. At first he wanted to be the leader, saw he had the chance at a new beginning, and became that character. But as time went on, his self-doubt and lack of success in life just seem to keep spurting out at times, despite him trying not to be that. My .02, anyway.

                            It's kind of the same thing with Jack. His "I'm always right" attitude that he had at the beginning made him the leader at the start, but as time has passed, he's still had that attitude, he just has less support from the survivors, so now he comes across as annoying and stupid.

                            Desmond, too. He keeps trying to prove he is not a coward, yet when it comes right down to it, he continues to prove that he is one. Hopefully he will breakthrough cause I like his character.

                            Basically I think this show has been extremely well written for a serialized television show. No show is ever planned out completely, and all the sub plots in this show have yet to show any huge plot holes. There are so many little things that tie everything together and actually make sense with the overall plot, so while there are going to be some discrepencies due to the fact that it is a TV show, the writers of LOST have done a great job with character development and keeping the main plot consistent, in my opinion.
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                            • Boltman
                              L.A. to S.D. to HI
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 18283

                              #1544
                              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                              Originally posted by Money99
                              Ugh. Nothing would make me happier than to see Jack blown up into bits. And then a crab skull f***s his dead corpse while the Losties, Others and French woman all piss on his bones while singing "Equarius".

                              That's the ending I want. I can barely stomach any scene with Jack even for a few seconds.
                              LMAO!!


                              Great stuff man, I used to love his character, now he is just a P-whipped puss that I want dead.

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #1545
                                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                                Jack is going to surprise you all. They turned his character into what he is now only to just shock you during the season finale.

                                Mark these words.
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