***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

[fistofrage]

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I'll have to watch the finale again. I thought it was just average, but maybe because I just can't stand Jack's character.

Those were definitely flash forwards. And it hasn't been very long since they got off the island. I wouldn't imagine that Jack could have kept his job very long with his drinking and drug habit.

Jack also mentioned his golden ticket of flying every weekend. I put the flash forwards about 6 months in the future.

As far as who is in the casket, my initial thoughts were Sawyer, but the funeral director said noone else came to see him, and you know Kate would have because she obviously lives in the area if she drove to see Jack...I think Locke crept back into the jungle and didn't leave the island.

The person in the casket is Ben....Jack realized Ben was right and that he shouldn't have made the call to get them off the island. Why? I don't know, but noone would have come to see Ben. Alex isn't really his daughter, so he had no family. Jack feels responsible for Ben's death and the other turmoil we will see that happens to the Losties once they get back to civilization and Jack is the one who made the call to get them rescued.

[Jerbear]

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As soon as Des shot Mikael with the spear, I said "Shoot him in the head to make sure he's dead." I wouldn't be surprised if he survived the grenade blast. Maybe he's a Terminator...

Lol! I screamed out, "Shoot him in the other eye, then he can't see nothing!"

[Drag66]

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I fully believe this was very far in the future, at least 5 years. Jack had very grey hair, seems like many things had gone on over the years. Someone had to have a date on something in Jack's room or somewhere. Remember, they are still in 2001 on the island. I'm guessing it's 2006 in the flash forward based on some of the vehicles, phones, etc.

I'm also sticking to may Jack's Dad's dead theory. The way he talked about him and the reactions of the chief of staff etc when Jack mentioned him.

Another theory on that site with the obit pics, it was a black neighborhood, so who on the show would be buried there? Michael, Walt...neither begin with a J. We haven't fully seen Jacob yet. I don't know, but it's something else to think about.

I think it was 2004 when the plane crashed. If your remember, Ben showed Jack the Red Sox winning the world series. 2006 makes sense for the flash forward, however, because they have only been on the island under half a year and the flash forward would be approximately two years after the plane crash.

What an amzing episode this was. I just hope that the ending of the season finale is not the ending of the entire series with Jack regretting leaving the island. I liked what someone mentioned about a "back to the future" type deal where the future will change based on choices made on the island. I can't believe I have to wait until February 2008 to see the next episode, that sucks.

[ehh]

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My thoughts....

I really liked the episode, tons of action and the plot moved forward a lot.

- In the coffin is either Sawyer, Locke, or Ben. The fact that no one showed up to the wake on the main land has to make you believe that the character had no family or connections off the Island. Sawyer had no one, Locke had very few (Peg from MWC but that's probably dead), Ben had absolutely no one.

I'd hope that Jack would consider Sawyer and Locke friends, although anything can happen in the 1-5 years that happens between now and the flash-forward that can change that. If I was a betting man, I'd think it was Ben. If it were Sawyer, perhaps Kate was so mad because she has Sawyer's child but he refuses to help raise/support it. The "he" that Kate is referring to is her child. And that is why Kate refuses to go to the viewing.

Also, as for the newspaper clipping, I wouldn't be surprised if nothing came from the words/names in it. It does appear to be Cunningham or something similar for a last name but it might not lead to anything. Or, Benjamin Linus could easily be a stage-name for Ben. Who the heck knows what his real name is, we all know he's a very deceitful person. Also, "of New York" does not mean that the person was born there. It could be any of the Losties who relocated after they got off the Island. Though I definitely can't imagine a character like Sawyer living in NY!

Jack was a mess before he read the newspaper clipping. I don't think he was suicidal (thinking of jumping off the bridge) just because of that. His life is a total mess and he's an alcoholic and a drug addict. His life was in the toilet before the newspaper clipping - he was already suicidal IMO.

- Is Mikhel dead yet? Will he ever die? I swear to God I was sitting there w. my roommate watching the scene where they show him lying there w. the spear stuck through his heart and I joked to my roommate, "I wonder if that idiot is dead for real this time," because it was so obvious he was dead. Or so I thought. Locke also got shot in the abdomen and basically walked it off. So Locke and Mikhel are invincible while on the Island?

- Did Charlie really need to lock himself in that room? The entire Looking Glass was so large that even if that door was left open it would have taken several minutes to flood the entire station. It would have given both Charlie and Desmond enough time to put on O2 tanks and swim out of there.

- Noami is hot, she shouldn't have died yet. Locke kills her without flinching, but then doesn't kill Jack when he's going to do the same thing that she was going to do? Very odd.

- The smoke monster was Walt, but why did it have to show up as Walt? I would have thought it would have been something more significant to Locke but who knows.


Other Options

- That flash-forward was Desmond's next vision. Once he surfaces from the Looking Glass, he tells the Losties still on the beach that they cannot be saved this way or something catastrophic will happen. Hurley radios to Jack and tells them to run/hide/do something to avoid the rescue party that's coming.

- Desmond, knowing that Naomi is not from Penny's rescue boat, resurfaces and warns the Losties on the beach, they radio to Jack, etc. The people who are coming from Naomi's boat are indeed what Ben said, the enemies of Island. People who don't want their project to succeed. The Others are basically no more. Ben is in captivity for now, Dr. Alpert I believe is the only Other left of significance and he's shown that he does not have any ill intentions like Ben. There needs to be something new to fear on the Island, and it's the people who are coming to "rescue" the Losties.

- Jack's "flash-forward" could be a flashback. That's the first thing I thought after everyone went nuts about "OMG, IT'S A FLASH FORWARD!" It certainly looks like it is at this point but there's nothing that indicates it has to be. Kate and Jack could have been on the Island before before.

[aholbert32]

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I fully believe this was very far in the future, at least 5 years. Jack had very grey hair, seems like many things had gone on over the years. Someone had to have a date on something in Jack's room or somewhere. Remember, they are still in 2001 on the island. I'm guessing it's 2006 in the flash forward based on some of the vehicles, phones, etc.

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Whats funny is when I was watching the show live i noticed that the phone was a new phone (I think it was a Razr) and I thought the prop guy screwed up and couldnt find a phone that would have been in use in 2004. Little did I know it was actually 2007.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I think it was 2004 when the plane crashed. If your remember, Ben showed Jack the Red Sox winning the world series. 2006 makes sense for the flash forward, however, because they have only been on the island under half a year and the flash forward would be approximately two years after the plane crash.

What an amzing episode this was. I just hope that the ending of the season finale is not the ending of the entire series with Jack regretting leaving the island. I liked what someone mentioned about a "back to the future" type deal where the future will change based on choices made on the island. I can't believe I have to wait until February 2008 to see the next episode, that sucks.

I have no idea why I said 2001, I meant 2004... So it's 2 years in the future. Sorry, I was mispeaking for some reason.

[ehh]

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The Lost blogspot is reporting that the newspaper that Jack has when he's on the plane (the full paper) is actually a real paper from the LA Times from April 5, 2007. So apparently that flash-forward was happening presently.

The newspaper that the obituary is removed from has an article on the front cover.

The article reads:
Residents Speak.....
Proposed Coastal...

That is an issue of the La times from April 5th of this year. I do not have the original paper, but here is a link the online version for you to peruse.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lng5apr05,1,7141085.story

Since Jack was flying to and from LA this would make perfect sense he would have that newspaper, and the date would indicate that the time is the present if it is an easter egg and not a mistake.

So flashforward!

[Double Eights]

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Last nights episode gave me even more reason to have Jack as my favorite character. He was so bad *** last night, finally stood up to the others. Might not have been a good move by the looks of it; but he no longer let Ben dictate his actions.

Sawyer is still a close second though.

[fistofrage]

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The Lost blogspot is reporting that the newspaper that Jack has when he's on the plane (the full paper) is actually a real paper from the LA Times from April 5, 2007. So apparently that flash-forward was happening presently.

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Well that paper might not be an Easter Egg. They were on the island for some 90 days. I don't think Jack's flash forward would have been 2 to 3 years after their rescue. I just can't see a hospital allowing a drunken drugged up surgeon to be on staff for a couple of years. I have a feeling that the repurcussions of the rescue are going to be rather quick. Either way, all 40 losties are probably meeting horrible fates and Jack has to sit back and watch then die without being able to do anything about it and its driving him insane.

Kate looked pretty well kept, I wonder if she is in a situation she can't bear, but it has to be that way or she'll meet a horrible fate. Jack can't have her for his own, and he knows there is nothing he can do about it.....


On a side note, I like the idea of the rescue being a Desmond vision and they alert the Losties not to call, but I don't think thats the case.

[Jerbear]

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I'm just wondering if Jack & Claire will ever find out they are half-brother and sister. If Christian is really dead how will they ever know? That's why I'm not convinced he is dead.

[Double Eights]

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On a side note, I like the idea of the rescue being a Desmond vision and they alert the Losties not to call, but I don't think thats the case.

I like that idea. I do not want to see Jack end up the way he did at the end of the show last night. I'd either like to have him die saving the losties, or end up happy.

[ehh]

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On a side note, I like the idea of the rescue being a Desmond vision and they alert the Losties not to call, but I don't think thats the case.

You're right, it most likely won't be the case. In one of the recent episodes when Desmond is telling Charlie about his flashes, he says he doesn't see everything clearly. Just bits and pieces of certain things. The Jack flash-forward was crystal clear and contained a lot of information, so it probably wasn't a Desmond flash.

I hope that Season 4 really focuses on Desmond though. I'd say he's my favorite character right now.

[Goffs]

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I like that idea. I do not want to see Jack end up the way he did at the end of the show last night. I'd either like to have him die saving the losties, or end up happy.

yeah...i feel the same way...man he went rock bottom hehe

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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I have a lot of thoughts that I'll have to post later. I'll say this right now....

We may look back and say the season finale for Season 3 was the peak of Lost. Carlton and Damon basically gave away the biggest reveal of the show. I'm sure before last night the majority of the viewers were thinking are these people ever going to get off the Island. The final scene last night was something the producers could have used towards the end of the series. While there are still a lot of interesting mysteries left, the biggest one (in some people's eyes) is out of the bag now. While people are still gushing over the amazing finale right now, once everything sinks in, I feel like we will see a lot of people mention what I'm saying in the future.

[ehh]

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I have a lot of thoughts that I'll have to post later. I'll say this right now....

We may look back and say the season finale for Season 3 was the peak of Lost. Carlton and Damon basically gave away the biggest reveal of the show. I'm sure before last night the majority of the viewers were thinking are these people ever going to get off the Island. The final scene last night was something the producers could have used towards the end of the series. While there are still a lot of interesting mysteries left, the biggest one (in some people's eyes) is out of the bag now. While people are still gushing over the amazing finale right now, once everything sinks in, I feel like we will see a lot of people mention what I'm saying in the future.

The brilliance of the show is that there's nothing that says the future we saw in Jack's flash-forward will ever come to fruition.