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  • Dondadda
    MVP
    • Sep 2003
    • 1204

    #16
    Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

    Originally posted by cjonesfan921
    EA re-built their engine for next gen, where 2K just ported their engine over.

    I'm sorry? BOTH companies ported over the base engines.


    There isn't a single good multi-sport developer out there right now, which is depressing. Konami is king, by way of a single game!
    Been gaming since the Atari 2600, and hells no I won't stop!!!

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    • Dondadda
      MVP
      • Sep 2003
      • 1204

      #17
      Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

      Originally posted by fossen
      I just don't even get the main argument here.

      EA's out to make as much money as they can? That's news?

      In other news, the sky is blue and water's wet.

      Here's another news item - Sports gaming is currently in the toilet, and there isn't enough reason for a hardcore sports gamer to buy a next-gen console.


      Hopefully this turns around soon . . .
      Been gaming since the Atari 2600, and hells no I won't stop!!!

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      • fossen
        Bl*bfl*th z*p!
        • Jul 2002
        • 7098

        #18
        Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

        Originally posted by Brian_OS
        Agreed, but I paid 60 bucks for a game.. Why do I have to watch the Burger King dude play grab fanny with the boxers? Is 60 dollars not enough?
        Then don't buy it.

        They make a crappy product, you don't buy it. That's the way the market works. Once their sales drop past the point this ancilliary source can cover, then they'll change their plan.

        EA was never in this to help gamers, or to fulfill sports gamers' lives. They want as much money as they can, and always have. gaming's mainstream penetration just opens up new revenue streams.

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        • RubenDouglas
          Hall Of Fame
          • May 2003
          • 11202

          #19
          Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

          Id love accurate banners and signs in games. but thats about it.

          like baseball games, MVP has patches out for accurate signs and stuff. EA should focus on that regard.

          I could go even as far to say having commentators say "this game is brought to you by" once during the beginning, ONCE during halftime, and once post game.

          The toyota moving you forward PERMAMENT replay ads in nba2k7 are a bit much imo. but it provides replay of gameplay and alittle ads, so its not all bad.

          At the SBC center in San Antonio, there are colored ads all around the stadium between the lower deck and upper deck. THey could get sponsors in game to have those actual signs.. but then maybe they would have to create a new camera angle or style replays to SHOW more of those ads, or show them all equally throughout the game. thus limiting camera angles and replay.

          Its a tough medium really. you could even have accurate locations on the jumbotrons, and for the 5-6 seconds that it shows the jumbotron during pregame, those are the ads and real life signs youd see.. small stuff like that.

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          • RubenDouglas
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2003
            • 11202

            #20
            Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            I don't see how this is a bid deal or even changes anything in the actual games.
            as i just stated above, it changes things when youre team has that limitation on camera angles or other aspects, so the ads get their "5 seconds". you start getting innovative that way. and now that team is working with gameplay and art to get everything just right.

            I just dont see how it WONT affect gameplay honestly

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #21
              Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

              Ah stop complainin....before you know it pro teams in real life will have advertisements all over their uniforms.

              THAT'S when we'll have a legit beef.
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              • Dondadda
                MVP
                • Sep 2003
                • 1204

                #22
                Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                Originally posted by fossen
                Then don't buy it.

                They make a crappy product, you don't buy it. That's the way the market works. Once their sales drop past the point this ancilliary source can cover, then they'll change their plan.

                EA was never in this to help gamers, or to fulfill sports gamers' lives. They want as much money as they can, and always have. gaming's mainstream penetration just opens up new revenue streams.
                True that.

                $$$ drives corporations. Advertising is just another revenue flow. However, the KING of revenue flor for these game makers, at this time, is the $50 or $60 you pop down when you buy the game new.

                Don't like what's going on in a game? Rent it or don't buy it at all. Or play your friend's copy to see if it's REALLY worth it. Or read this site.

                These days, there really isn't a "lock" sports game out there, aside from Winning 11, so I think that we all need to approach things more carefully then we used to.

                Plus, with products such as Action Replay, we can experience roster updates and settings tweaks without needing to buy "next year's" version. Hopefully, the proliferation of products like Action Replay and VG file sharing will lead to a more demanding consumer base. Then again, I'm not holding my breath!!
                Been gaming since the Atari 2600, and hells no I won't stop!!!

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                • Slymm
                  Th* m*n...
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 3406

                  #23
                  Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                  First thing I thought when I read the initial argument about this..."WHO CARES". People obviously like to bitch about things no matter how meaningless they are.

                  Ea could serve me up a "Mayor McCheese's Mcdonald's **** sandwich NCAA Football 07 presented by Burger King with limited commercial interruption thanks to Mountain Dew" and I wouldn't care as long as it played well.
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                  • BGarrett7
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5890

                    #24
                    Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                    Hilarious what people will spend their time complaining about.

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                    • bergie56
                      T*rg*t F**ld
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 3984

                      #25
                      Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                      Originally posted by fossen
                      I just don't even get the main argument here.

                      EA's out to make as much money as they can? That's news?

                      In other news, the sky is blue and water's wet.
                      Isn't this what every company is trying to do? I really don't see the big deal. I for one don't really care about this at all. It is another stream of revenue for them so it doesn't really suprise me that they are pursuing it.

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                      • ObiWanJenkins

                        #26
                        Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                        Are these people also complaining about the gratuitous ads in every sports stadium, product placement in motion pictures, and billboards on the side of the road? Ads are everywhere.

                        I have no problem with real ads in video games as long as they are appropiate to the game. Sam Fisher shooting a real Coke machine. Driving past real billboards in a racing game. Perfectly fine with me. Playing Battlefield 1942 with Microsoft logos popping up everywhere or Sony logos on space ships in Galactic Civilizations would really annoy me.

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                        • Rainey
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 4507

                          #27
                          Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                          Originally posted by ObiWanJenkins
                          Are these people also complaining about the gratuitous ads in every sports stadium, product placement in motion pictures, and billboards on the side of the road? Ads are everywhere.

                          I have no problem with real ads in video games as long as they are appropiate to the game. Sam Fisher shooting a real Coke machine. Driving past real billboards in a racing game. Perfectly fine with me. Playing Battlefield 1942 with Microsoft logos popping up everywhere or Sony logos on space ships in Galactic Civilizations would really annoy me.

                          I wouldn't mind Sony logos... that would mean the ships were really expensive and using the wrong technology

                          BTW, Galatic Civlization 2 is such a kickass game.
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                          • ObiWanJenkins

                            #28
                            Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                            Originally posted by Rainey
                            I wouldn't mind Sony logos... that would mean the ships were really expensive and using the wrong technology

                            BTW, Galatic Civlization 2 is such a kickass game.


                            I agree. The game rocks.

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                            • DrJones
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 9108

                              #29
                              Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                              Originally posted by JohnnytheSkin
                              (and I don't buy the dev cost increases at all...especially with EA where the same engine is only moderately tweaked for five years).
                              Um, dev costs have risen -- PS3 devkits, for example, cost EA 30K a pop, as opposed to PS2 devkits, which were 5K each.
                              Originally posted by Thrash13
                              Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                              Originally posted by slickdtc
                              DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                              Originally posted by Kipnis22
                              yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                              • bkfount
                                All Star
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 8467

                                #30
                                Re: EA getting REAL greedy...

                                it's be awesome to have an appleby's commercial in the middle of a NASCAR 07 race during a wreck...

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