EA getting REAL greedy...

[PdiddyPop]

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it's be awesome to have an appleby's commercial in the middle of a NASCAR 07 race during a wreck...

Except don't make it be the Gilligans Island jingle ripoff!!!

[brudjazz]

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I just don't even get the main argument here.

EA's out to make as much money as they can? That's news?

In other news, the sky is blue and water's wet.

I personally do not care for EA's tactics. They're a business, of course they're out to make money. The problem I have is that I'm out to buy a sports video game, not have part of my game be commercials. That's the main argument, if you will. I know there are A LOT of folks that hate commercials, and video games are not the place to be throwing advertisments at buyers. Just watch and see, this will not be a successful adventure for EA.

[brudjazz]

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First thing I thought when I read the initial argument about this..."WHO CARES". People obviously like to bitch about things no matter how meaningless they are.

Ea could serve me up a "Mayor McCheese's Mcdonald's **** sandwich NCAA Football 07 presented by Burger King with limited commercial interruption thanks to Mountain Dew" and I wouldn't care as long as it played well.

That's fine. I respect your opinion. Here's hoping that you respect mine, which I doubt.

[cjonesfan921]

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I still don't know why you only single out EA, if you have tried the NBA 2K demo you will see the Toyota Moving Forward replay thing. After the replay it is a black screen saying " Toyota moving you forward" that you can't press a button to get past. I like this stuff but you only singling out EA is not right because 2K and every other company does it too.

[bkrich83]

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Isnt' that one of the big draws from mods for the stadiums and overlays for the PC versions of these games. Getting the real advertisements and such in to the games?

[Ridgeberg]

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I think the point is being missed a little here.
From reading the posts, it doesn't seem like anyone is offended by "video" advertising that represents real life advertising.

But, what I gathered from the reports, and have started to see, is advertising for the sake of advertising.

For example, NHL 07 has a "Dodge" shootout. At the conclusion of the shootout, Gary Thorne says, "Dodge, makers of the all new"...something, I've never caught it. That is intrusive advertising. I have difficulty believe that Dodge has sponsored every single shootout that will take place in the 06-07 NHL season.

Another example is the product placement in Fight Night Round 3. The fact that you win a Burger King award when no such award exists. Same goes for Under Armour and Dodge again, I believe. Or how about the "video" representation of the Dodge Caliber ringside, do you think that happens during title fights?

I understand having to watch commercials for free material. We do it watching TV every day. Most downloaded videos now have commercials. Sirius and XM exist because people are willing to pay a subscription fee to not listen to commercials. If we are paying any sum of money to purchase a game, we should not be subjected to unwanted advertisements or commercials either.

I am all for getting appropriate equipment in games, it increases realism, thus providing a better experience (for me). When I am subjected to a plug for Dodge, that I don't want to hear or see, I feel it violates our privacy.

[DocHolliday]

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EA re-built their engine for next gen, where 2K just ported their engine over.

Just like they were going to release a patch, right?

EA is a joke, the engine is not rebuilt from the ground up.

[bkrich83]

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I think the point is being missed a little here.
From reading the posts, it doesn't seem like anyone is offended by "video" advertising that represents real life advertising.

But, what I gathered from the reports, and have started to see, is advertising for the sake of advertising.

For example, NHL 07 has a "Dodge" shootout. At the conclusion of the shootout, Gary Thorne says, "Dodge, makers of the all new"...something, I've never caught it. That is intrusive advertising. I have difficulty believe that Dodge has sponsored every single shootout that will take place in the 06-07 NHL season.

Another example is the product placement in Fight Night Round 3. The fact that you win a Burger King award when no such award exists. Same goes for Under Armour and Dodge again, I believe. Or how about the "video" representation of the Dodge Caliber ringside, do you think that happens during title fights?

I understand having to watch commercials for free material. We do it watching TV every day. Most downloaded videos now have commercials. Sirius and XM exist because people are willing to pay a subscription fee to not listen to commercials. If we are paying any sum of money to purchase a game, we should not be subjected to unwanted advertisements or commercials either.

I am all for getting appropriate equipment in games, it increases realism, thus providing a better experience (for me). When I am subjected to a plug for Dodge, that I don't want to hear or see, I feel it violates our privacy.

You feel it violates your privacy? That's a tad dramatic don't you think?

[Scottdau]

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Isnt' that one of the big draws from mods for the stadiums and overlays for the PC versions of these games. Getting the real advertisements and such in to the games?

That is deep, but so true. People crack me up!

[Ridgeberg]

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You feel it violates your privacy? That's a tad dramatic don't you think?

I wasn't trying to be dramatic, just effective.
You can find any synonym and plug it in...how about infringes on?

[ODogg]

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There definitely SHOULD be advertising in sports games if you want realism. I'd rather see a "Gatorade presents.." than some fictional ripoff Gatorade company on a stat screen. However there is a line that EA and other companies should not cross in a sense we don't want any 15 or 30 second commercials breaking up the game action. That would be carrying it too far.

[nxt]

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I guess the real "GREED" aspect is that EA is planning to advertise real products (which is not a problem, if done unobtrusively IMO), AND charge their customer base for "extras" that use to be included in the games.

As far as in game Ads ruining the games, that remains to be seen. I remember someone mentioning that they noticed in Madden 360, the cam would pan over to the scoreboard to show a generic animation/graphic for "SACK" or "TOUCHDOWN," etc. instead of showing a replay... of course on the scoreboard were Ads. Now, if this were the direction EA decided to take to show Ads, that would take away from presentation.

Could you imagine if EA used a tv-style broadcast for presentation and ran actual commercials, which could be watched or bypassed by pressing A. LOL.

[bkrich83]

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I wasn't trying to be dramatic, just effective.
You can find any synonym and plug it in...how about infringes on?

How does it possibly infringe on your privacy? I don't see how your privacy is being affected at all by this.

[brudjazz]

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There definitely SHOULD be advertising in sports games if you want realism. I'd rather see a "Gatorade presents.." than some fictional ripoff Gatorade company on a stat screen. However there is a line that EA and other companies should not cross in a sense we don't want any 15 or 30 second commercials breaking up the game action. That would be carrying it too far.

This is where it's going, folks. Mark my words. EA is wanting to literally, and figuratively, turn a video sports game into a real-to-life game......except for one small, teeny, weeny problem. Their games have never been that realistic but you just know their commercials in the games are going to look realistic. I believe that there is a switch occuring in revenue streams for sports game makers (mostly due to crappy games being put out). It's going from relying on the game-buyer market to real-life advertisments. I honest too goodness feel that EA's focus isn't even on making the best game out there anymore.

[ODogg]

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This is where it's going, folks. Mark my words. EA is wanting to literally, and figuratively, turn a video sports game into a real-to-life game......except for one small, teeny, weeny problem. Their games have never been that realistic but you just know their commercials in the games are going to look realistic. I believe that there is a switch occuring in revenue streams for sports game makers (mostly due to crappy games being put out). It's going from relying on the game-buyer market to real-life advertisments. I honest too goodness feel that EA's focus isn't even on making the best game out there anymore.

You must not have played NHL 07 yet then.