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  • Spectre
    Th* ******
    • Mar 2003
    • 5853

    #2476
    Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

    Originally posted by candymanGT
    That is nuts.
    This is precisely why I'm in absolutely no rush to jettison my HD-DVDs and go strictly Blu-Ray (that and I think that Toshiba hardware is 100000x better than the crap the BDA consortium has released). This profile 1.0/1.1/2.0 garbage is among the most idiotic things I've seen in my time with electronics. Coupled with the exorbitant cost of the Blu-ray hardware (which you've showed me won't come down for a long time), you just have a formula for disaster.

    Warner loved talking about the "window of opportunity" for HDM- well, if Joe Schmoe is going to have to determine if his 1.0 Blu-ray player that he got for cheap will match up with a disc only compatible with a 2.0 player, look out. I don't think there was any "window" to be honest and I think it was a front for the real motivations behind the deal- lots and lots of the green stuff.

    This is just going to be another reason why HDM is not going to take off- I'm getting more and more pessimistic about its future. I fear it won't be anything more than a niche market for the next couple of years (at earliest). That really pisses me off.

    Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but the "second" digital decade that Gates talked about in his keynote at CES is looking more and more likely to have digital delivery of media as a huge portion if these boneheads don't get their acts together.

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #2477
      Re: Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

      I don't see the big fuss; If you were interested in Blu-Ray, a PS3 is your best bet anyhow.

      Sony really positioned the PS3 to become more a media device than a game player... and it's becoming evident more and more.
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      • triplej96
        24fps
        • Aug 2002
        • 2152

        #2478
        Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

        Originally posted by Spectre
        This is precisely why I'm in absolutely no rush to jettison my HD-DVDs and go strictly Blu-Ray (that and I think that Toshiba hardware is 100000x better than the crap the BDA consortium has released). This profile 1.0/1.1/2.0 garbage is among the most idiotic things I've seen in my time with electronics. Coupled with the exorbitant cost of the Blu-ray hardware (which you've showed me won't come down for a long time), you just have a formula for disaster.

        Warner loved talking about the "window of opportunity" for HDM- well, if Joe Schmoe is going to have to determine if his 1.0 Blu-ray player that he got for cheap will match up with a disc only compatible with a 2.0 player, look out. I don't think there was any "window" to be honest and I think it was a front for the real motivations behind the deal- lots and lots of the green stuff.

        This is just going to be another reason why HDM is not going to take off- I'm getting more and more pessimistic about its future. I fear it won't be anything more than a niche market for the next couple of years (at earliest). That really pisses me off.

        Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but the "second" digital decade that Gates talked about in his keynote at CES is looking more and more likely to have digital delivery of media as a huge portion if these boneheads don't get their acts together.

        I hear ya Spectre that is why I'm a little hesitant to sell my A3. It would be a done deal if I could get a stand alone Blu-Ray player 2.0 profile in the $200 to $300 range.
        -Josh

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        • bigfnjoe96
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2004
          • 11410

          #2479
          Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread



          Last edited by bigfnjoe96; 01-08-2008, 11:38 PM.

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          • GAMEC0CK2002
            Stayin Alive
            • Aug 2002
            • 10384

            #2480
            Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

            I'll be sticking with my HD DVD player and movies until the BDA can get their pricing and profiles together.

            Am I the only one that finds it sorta ridiculous that you have to spend at least $400 (cheapest PS3) to get a "future proofed" blu ray player?

            Sucks to be an early adopter that went with a blu stand alone.

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            • Virix
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 1007

              #2481
              Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

              Originally posted by Pared
              I don't see the big fuss; If you were interested in Blu-Ray, a PS3 is your best bet anyhow.

              Sony really positioned the PS3 to become more a media device than a game player... and it's becoming evident more and more.
              Unless of course you dont want to use the same DTS sound track that is on SD-DVDs. Since Fox uses DTS-HD and DTS-MA exclusively on releases, and the PS3 can only decode DTS-Core (which is the same as SD-DVDs) then you are out of luck with the PS3 if you have a good surround sound system. (like myself)

              They have a studio that is exclusive and their "best" player cant even decode the sound. Ridiculous.

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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #2482
                Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                You made a comment referencing this already a few posts back.
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                • Virix
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 1007

                  #2483
                  Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                  Originally posted by Pared
                  You made a comment referencing this already a few posts back.
                  ...and you still didnt know what "the big fuss" was about. If they want it to be a media center thats fine... but I dont think asking for compatibility with the sound tracks on your exclusive movies is too much to ask for.
                  Last edited by Virix; 01-08-2008, 11:57 PM.

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #2484
                    Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                    ...and some people simply don't care.

                    Much ado over nothing.
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                    • mgoblue
                      Go Wings!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25477

                      #2485
                      Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                      Originally posted by Virix
                      Unless of course you dont want to use the same DTS sound track that is on SD-DVDs. Since Fox uses DTS-HD and DTS-MA exclusively on releases, and the PS3 can only decode DTS-Core (which is the same as SD-DVDs) then you are out of luck with the PS3 if you have a good surround sound system. (like myself)

                      They have a studio that is exclusive and their "best" player cant even decode the sound. Ridiculous.
                      Supposedly an update is coming for DTS-HD...I agree that Blu-Ray has been idiotic with the profile 1.0 crap, along with this, but Sony's gonna support the PS3 over time...it's their lifeblood.
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                      • Virix
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1007

                        #2486
                        Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        ...and some people simply don't care.

                        Much ado over nothing.
                        Then why even bother responding if its much ado about nothing?

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #2487
                          Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                          Originally posted by mgoblue
                          Supposedly an update is coming for DTS-HD...I agree that Blu-Ray has been idiotic with the profile 1.0 crap, along with this, but Sony's gonna support the PS3 over time...it's their lifeblood.
                          ...no, don't believe this. Then Virus wouldn't have anything to whine about.
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                          • Virix
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1007

                            #2488
                            Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                            Originally posted by mgoblue
                            Supposedly an update is coming for DTS-HD...I agree that Blu-Ray has been idiotic with the profile 1.0 crap, along with this, but Sony's gonna support the PS3 over time...it's their lifeblood.
                            I havent seen anything confirming that a firmware update can add DTS-HD/MA support but Im really hoping it can. Sony has been very tight lipped about it. PS3 is the closest to a fully featured player on the market. Well, other than the $2k profile 1.1 Onkyo player that is coming soon.

                            It will be a happy day when they support the codecs though, Ive been checking daily for MONTHS and they have hardly even made a comment on it... well other than saying its not a priority because of profile 2.0.
                            Last edited by Virix; 01-09-2008, 12:04 AM.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #2489
                              Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                              Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                              Who is behind this, Joe?
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                              • CaptainZombie
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 37851

                                #2490
                                Re: Official Blu-Ray &amp; HD-DVD Thread

                                Originally posted by Virix
                                I havent seen anything confirming that a firmware update can add DTS-HD/MA support but Im really hoping it can. Sony has been very tight lipped about it. PS3 is the closest to a fully featured player on the market. Well, other than the $2k profile 1.1 Onkyo player that is coming soon.

                                It will be a happy day when they support the codecs though, Ive been checking daily for MONTHS and they have hardly even made a comment on it... well other than saying its not a priority because of profile 2.0.
                                There was a few comments or rumors that DTS-HDMA might be supported with a FW upgrade. But those were just rumors.
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