Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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i guess i understand what heelfan says about not buying into it now. BUT my point is that I DONT have a 1080P tv and dont plan on buying one for a while anyways so why not spend the $150 i did on the A3 and use it as an upconvert for my SD's and ill have a few Hd's to go with them in 1080i.

I can't see anything wrong with that. If the entry price for a blu ray player wasn't so steep i'd make the move myself b/c the movies aren't that expensive with all the deals they have going. If you stay or go red, just be prepared though, b/c it's looking like the last 2 HDDVD movie studios may be jumping ship ASAP. So what you see is what you get.

[aholbert32]

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probably won't see anymore of those if there is one format. They developed those thinking both formats would survive.

I think its the other way. I think you will see more combo players created over the next 3 yrs. There are over a million HD-DVD owners who wont want to get rid of their HD-DVD collections and will be looking for combo players.

[Heelfan71]

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i guess i understand what heelfan says about not buying into it now. BUT my point is that I DONT have a 1080P tv and dont plan on buying one for a while anyways so why not spend the $150 i did on the A3 and use it as an upconvert for my SD's and ill have a few Hd's to go with them in 1080i.

Don't let me talk you out of it by any means. I was just saying you will putting some $$$ into a format that won't be here for long. So eventually you will have to buy a dual format player or ps3 if you want to watch HD movies. Nothing new will be out on HD-DVD pretty soon. If I were going to buy anything right now and I didn't own any movies, it would have to be bluray. Just because your tv doesn't do 1080p doesn't matter. Movies will still look amazing.

[Nomah5]

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i guess i understand ur logic. i can always use the hd one as my upconvert for my bedroom.

[CaptainZombie]

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i guess i understand ur logic. i can always use the hd one as my upconvert for my bedroom.

Give it a shot Nomah, you will enjoy it.

aholbert, I've been checking out the LG and Samsung Dual Players and reading through some reviews and threads. So many problems with both of these, it is nuts that their charging $800 for both of these. I wonder if the 3rd gen dual players due out later in Spring will fix the issues that these other 2 had.

The big issues are the sound DD+ and TrueHd, HD-DVD Combo discs don't work properly, and there are issues with JAVA heavy discs like the ones from FOX and Disney.

[aholbert32]

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Give it a shot Nomah, you will enjoy it.

aholbert, I've been checking out the LG and Samsung Dual Players and reading through some reviews and threads. So many problems with both of these, it is nuts that their charging $800 for both of these. I wonder if the 3rd gen dual players due out later in Spring will fix the issues that these other 2 had.

The big issues are the sound DD+ and TrueHd, HD-DVD Combo discs don't work properly, and there are issues with JAVA heavy discs like the ones from FOX and Disney.

The LG one is a grand and has a ton of issues but so did their first gen player. The Samsung Duo is a little better and the majority of issues like the sound and the issue with Live Free and Die Hard should be fixed with a firmware update in Feb. Keep in mind that these isssues happen with every new HD-DVD and bluray player. My 360 addon had sync issues and wouldnt play some of my disks when I first bought it.

[CaptainZombie]

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The LG one is a grand and has a ton of issues but so did their first gen player. The Samsung Duo is a little better and the majority of issues like the sound and the issue with Live Free and Die Hard should be fixed with a firmware update in Feb. Keep in mind that these isssues happen with every new HD-DVD and bluray player. My 360 addon had sync issues and wouldnt play some of my disks when I first bought it.

Both players are now $799 (CC & Amazon), I can find the LG but the Samsung is nearly impossible to find.

Did you see any of these players running movies at all? Thanks

[aholbert32]

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Both players are now $799 (CC & Amazon), I can find the LG but the Samsung is nearly impossible to find.

Did you see any of these players running movies at all? Thanks

The funny thing is bestbuy has the LG one for a grand.

There are some pics of the Samsung running in the AVS forums thread. It looked good to me but I'm not a videophile.

[CaptainZombie]

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The funny thing is bestbuy has the LG one for a grand.

There are some pics of the Samsung running in the AVS forums thread. It looked good to me but I'm not a videophile.

Ouch! The Best Buy that I went to today had their for $799, I was checking it out but reading through the problems people are having just makes me want to stick with the A3 and just get a SAL BD Player until maybe 4th gen when all the profiles are finally complete and they have these issues hammered out.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Guys SAMSUNG has a Dual hitting market MSRP $599.00

Hard to believe that CES 2007 was the venue at which Samsung launched its second-generation Blu-ray player, as just 12 months later we're staring the fourth-gen unit right in the face. Coming this May, the BD-P1500 will support 1080p playback (not to mention 720p / 1080i / 1080p DVD upconversion), 7.1 PCM, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD HR and MA, Bitstream audio output via HDMI, HDMI 1.3 with CEC and the obligatory Profile 1.1. Meanwhile, the firm is also announcing its forthcoming combo player, and for those out there who have yet to successfully hunt one down or are just too frightened by the reports of lackluster audio performance, you may want to hit the pause button 'til May. The BD-UP5500 (pictured after the break) handles Blu-ray / HD DVD discs and supports 1080p24, but otherwise remains functionality identical to the P1500. The pain? $399 for the BD-P1500, $599 for the BD-UP5500.

Sounds good to me. Really wish the player was Profile 2.0 ready.. BTW PS3 owners ?... Does the PS3 offer advance HD Audio for BD Playback

[CaptainZombie]

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Guys SAMSUNG has a Dual hitting market MSRP $599.00





Sounds good to me. Really wish the player was Profile 2.0 ready.. BTW PS3 owners ?... Does the PS3 offer advance HD Audio for BD Playback

Joe, yes it does offer Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, or DTS-HD.

I guess that Samsung from what I was reading is going to be the middle tier for Samsung, while the 5000 will still be their top model.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Very interesting article from beta news...

Blu-ray may have taken a commanding lead in the next-generation format war, but the company has a big problem looming: early supporters of the format will be left out in the cold when the Blu-ray Disc Association introduces BD Profile 2.0 Unlike HD DVD, which mandated features such as local storage, a second video and audio decoder for picture-in-picture, and a network connection from the very beginning, the companies behind Blu-ray took a different approach. Initial hardware players lacked these capabilities in order to keep costs down. None of the Profile 1.0 players can be upgraded to Profile 1.1, which was finalized recently, with the exception of the PlayStation 3 -- whose update arrived in mid-December. Likewise, Profile 2.0 is expected to arrive in October bringing Internet connectivity that Profile 1.1 players lack.
Representatives at the Blu-ray booth at CES told BetaNews that the PlayStation 3 is currently the only player they would recommend, due to upcoming changes to the platform. But Pioneer, Samsung, Panasonic and Sony have all been selling standalone Blu-ray players to customers. In order to allay confusion, the BDA has adopted special labels that will be placed on Blu-ray movies. Those with a "Bonus View" sticker will require Profile 1.1 players, while those with "BD Live" will require Profile 2.0. In addition, the BD-J interactivity layer, based on Java, has continued to evolve since the introduction of Blu-ray Profile 1.0. This means that early players may have a buggy implementation and perhaps more importantly, they are not powerful enough to play the latest films properly. When BetaNews asked developers of BD Live whether they were concerned about a backlash from early adopters who supported the format from the beginning, we were told: "They knew what they were getting into." BDA President Andy Parsons echoed that sentiment at the Blu-ray press conference Monday, telling BetaNews that it's normal for new technology to change and older hardware to become obsolete. He added that early Blu-ray owners can continue to do everything they could in the beginning: watch movies in high-definition. Still, the confusion will only likely further alienate existing and potential customers of the nascent format. One key Blu-ray developer told BetaNews that although he builds discs for studios including Fox and Lionsgate, he did not buy a Blu-ray player for personal use. When BetaNews asked why these manufacturers rushed out players that were not fully capable and potentially buggy due to their BD-J implementation, the Blu-ray partner pointed blame across the room to HD DVD. "We should have waited another year to introduce Blu-ray to the public, but the format war changed the situation," he said. HD DVD was already coming and the BDA had no choice but to launch Blu-ray.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Blur...nto/1199841379

WOW...

[CaptainZombie]

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Very interesting article from beta news...

http://www.betanews.com/article/Blur...nto/1199841379

WOW...

That is nuts.

[bigfnjoe96]

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That is nuts.

As much as I love HDM, the above article I posted just makes me wonder

[The Chef]

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Yeah, that article makes me a little nervous about this entire HDM situation. BR may win, and it looks like the will, but if they end up alienating alot of their existing customer base all the while confusing the ones coming over from HD-DVD I dont see how this wont benefit Microsoft assuming they are still looking into virtual downloads. I hope in the end we dont have 2 formats that disappear thanks to different screw-ups by each company, that would really hurt.