Time Travel... soon?

[jmood88]

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Because they had alot of unexplainable phenomenons up until recently. I just think they were some smart mofos. I think mankind is capable of anything. You never know, if alot of the principles and teachings of our current society are abolished or completely 'lost' or 'forgotten' within the next 1000 years, who's to say that the future society wont wonder how we made skyscrappers and automobiles and how our religion was and the like. This is what I think happened to the egyptians. They're teachings were lost throughout the centuries and we forever wonder how they accomplished all they did accomplish.

I think they were very smart too but I don't get why the egyptians are singled out so much. You never see anyone say that the romans met up with aliens, it's always the egyptians.

[USF11]

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I think they were very smart too but I don't get why the egyptians are singled out so much. You never see anyone say that the romans met up with aliens, it's always the egyptians.

Because its hard to argue with the conspiracy theory crazy's when you have little to no evidence.

[Spear]

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So what does it mean to create alternate paralell time lines? How would one be created? If everytime I went to the past, a alternate universe was created, is it an alternate universe only to me or is it everyones alternate universe?

This is what I'm thinking as well. What does everybody else think of the alternate universes?

[Graphik]

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I think they were very smart too but I don't get why the egyptians are singled out so much. You never see anyone say that the romans met up with aliens, it's always the egyptians.

From what was learned, the Romans 'borrowed' alot of the egyptians principles and practices. It all started with the egyptians thats why they will remain on top of the society chain. There are suprisingly alot of things we've learned from the egyptians that we still continue to use. Astrology for one. They reportedly were the first to use some form of mathmatics and written language. Symbolism, religion...the list goes on and on.

[jmood88]

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From what was learned, the Romans 'borrowed' alot of the egyptians principles and practices. It all started with the egyptians thats why they will remain on top of the society chain. There are suprisingly alot of things we've learned from the egyptians that we still continue to use. Astrology for one. They reportedly were the first to use some form of mathmatics and written language. Symbolism, religion...the list goes on and on.

Yeah I know that a lot of socities borrowed from the the egyptians and from african civilizations in general. The mayans were also a group that were really advanced when it comes to astrology, literature, math, and constructions.

[NovaStar]

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From what was learned, the Romans 'borrowed' alot of the egyptians principles and practices. It all started with the egyptians thats why they will remain on top of the society chain. There are suprisingly alot of things we've learned from the egyptians that we still continue to use. Astrology for one. They reportedly were the first to use some form of mathmatics and written language. Symbolism, religion...the list goes on and on.

Exactly. Not only that, they are the ones that left a history or documentation of their dealings with "other beings" within the heiroglyphic writings, there are all kinds of hints and direct indications that they encountered beings from elsewhere. Some of the things the egyptians did, to this day cannot be duplicated, an example would be the creation of a pyramid.

[Dallasin2K3]

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So what does it mean to create alternate paralell time lines? How would one be created? If everytime I went to the past, a alternate universe was created, is it an alternate universe only to me or is it everyones alternate universe?

The way I have heard it explained is that alternate parallel universes are not created by time travel, they exist by virtue of choices that are made in any other parallel universe.

For example: I have a choice to get in my car and go to the store or take a nap. As soon as I have made the decision to take a nap, an alternate universe then exists, running parallel to the one I am in, in which I elect to get in my car and go to the store.

In my current universe, I sleep for two hours and everyone around me lives accordingly.

In the parallel universe, where I chose to get in my car and go to the store, we'll say that I got in a car accident. In this parallel universe, which theoretically exists just the same as the one I am in, firefighters, police officers, paramedics, other drivers are all on the scene. The wreck has affected the position in time/space of other entities in the universe. In the other universe, none of this happened, so those same civil servants and other drivers are minding their own business, nothing out of the ordinary. So to answer your question, the alternate universe would be "everyone's" alternate universe, but it's hard to grasp because consciousness doesn't extend from universe to universe.

Although, I would take this chance to point out that some believe that consciousness is the only reality. That is to say that each universe is only a universe to a single consciousness, and that we are all in our own universes, so to speak.

One can see that if an alternate universe exists for every choice made by an entity in the universe, we would very quickly have an infinite number of parallel universes.

[CMH]

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Also, I think when jmood elaborated on the future visitor into the past we "stumbled" onto the conflicting argument against alternate universes/time lines.

You probably have to believe in one or the other, unless you go the route that Dallaskin is going by stating that time travel alone doesn't create an alternate universe.

My discussion on this topic will only relate to time lines instead of universes so I stray a bit from Dallaskin.

So, for me it's either I believe in the ability to create alternate time lines or I believe in the past being set in stone and time travel being a part of that history.

(One thing to note is that we still don't know how long it'll take time travel to develop, assuming it can be. Like someone else said, how do we know what humans will look like thousands of years from now or what they will be capable of in the future. My example of myself traveling from 2010 to 1950 explains this further. If I met someone in 1950, perhaps they don't recognize me because I'm still in my 2006 form. How do I know what I'll look like in 2010. Obviously, the years are very close to it isn't a great example, but I think you get where I'm coming from.)

[Graphik]

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The way I have heard it explained is that alternate parallel universes are not created by time travel, they exist by virtue of choices that are made in any other parallel universe.

For example: I have a choice to get in my car and go to the store or take a nap. As soon as I have made the decision to take a nap, an alternate universe then exists, running parallel to the one I am in, in which I elect to get in my car and go to the store.

In my current universe, I sleep for two hours and everyone around me lives accordingly.

In the parallel universe, where I chose to get in my car and go to the store, we'll say that I got in a car accident. In this parallel universe, which theoretically exists just the same as the one I am in, firefighters, police officers, paramedics, other drivers are all on the scene. The wreck has affected the position in time/space of other entities in the universe. In the other universe, none of this happened, so those same civil servants and other drivers are minding their own business, nothing out of the ordinary. So to answer your question, the alternate universe would be "everyone's" alternate universe, but it's hard to grasp because consciousness doesn't extend from universe to universe.

Although, I would take this chance to point out that some believe that consciousness is the only reality. That is to say that each universe is only a universe to a single consciousness, and that we are all in our own universes, so to speak.

One can see that if an alternate universe exists for every choice made by an entity in the universe, we would very quickly have an infinite number of parallel universes.

Illustrations please!

Just joking. I can catch the gist of what you're saying. If my own universe exsist only to my own conciousness, that means that I have an infinite number of universes, correct? It makes sense but its hard to fathom. I could possibly be living a quatrillion diffrent lives right now and continually make more as I go along. If something like this was true, how in the world would one know? Could one possibly jump to diffrent parallel universes through technology? I would love to go to the one where I'm rich and kill my other self and take over.

[Dallasin2K3]

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Illustrations please!

Just joking.

lol. I typed it, and I'm asking the same thing a lot of the time.

I can catch the gist of what you're saying. If my own universe exsist only to my own conciousness, that means that I have an infinite number of universes, correct?

Yes.

It makes sense but its hard to fathom. I could possibly be living a quatrillion diffrent lives right now and continually make more as I go along. If something like this was true, how in the world would one know?

You wouldn't. Your consciousness does not extend across universes. As we stand today, it is limited to your one and only current universe. It could be that you are in a parallel universe on a different forum asking the same question. Someone else could be trying to explain it to you. However, your consciousness is separate and isolated between universes, so you would not be aware of the parallel interaction.

Could one possibly jump to diffrent parallel universes through technology? I would love to go to the one where I'm rich and kill my other self and take over.

Some suppose that this is possible. In "The One", a movie with Jet Li, which I actually thought was pretty entertaining, although probably not very scientifically possible, that's essentially what he does. The premise of that movie is that all of your seperate beings are interconnected, and that if one of them dies off in a different universe, the others pick up the slack and split up the dead entitity's "life force".. ish.. and become more powerful, intelligent, etc.

Back to your question, about possibility: Some say that our universe interacts with parallel universes with regularity. Subatomic particles have been shown to do very strange things (like disappear, be in two places at once, "teleport", break the laws of physics in movement, etc.) which have prompted some physicists to claim this. Check out around 29:00 in the BBC documentary. Possible with people? Hard to say. There's still a lot of controversy on parallel universes to begin with.

[NovaStar]

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lol. I typed it, and I'm asking the same thing a lot of the time.



Yes.



You wouldn't. Your consciousness does not extend across universes. As we stand today, it is limited to your one and only current universe. It could be that you are in a parallel universe on a different forum asking the same question. Someone else could be trying to explain it to you. However, your consciousness is separate and isolated between universes, so you would not be aware of the parallel interaction.



Some suppose that this is possible. In "The One", a movie with Jet Li, which I actually thought was pretty entertaining, although probably not very scientifically possible, that's essentially what he does. The premise of that movie is that all of your seperate beings are interconnected, and that if one of them dies off in a different universe, the others pick up the slack and split up the dead entitity's "life force".. ish.. and become more powerful, intelligent, etc.

Back to your question, about possibility: Some say that our universe interacts with parallel universes with regularity. Subatomic particles have been shown to do very strange things (like disappear, be in two places at once, "teleport", break the laws of physics in movement, etc.) which have prompted some physicists to claim this. Check out around 29:00 in the BBC documentary. Possible with people? Hard to say. There's still a lot of controversy on parallel universes to begin with.

All of this goes back to my original statement and that is "to allow the belief in time travel one must also entertain other theories that are far more out there than the notion of time travel itself". To answer this kind of theory is to take into account what we already know as analytical, rational thinking human beings. The one thing that makes the concept of time travel though interesting but ridiculous is that life is purpose driven, it is not a continuous loop that repeats itself nor is capable of repeating itself nor is the time assciated with it capable of being altered. Mankinds life cycle is based on the theory of progression toward a defined purpose, the purpose itself cannot be altered by the inteference of men, life itself would not permit that.

I say all of that to say this, if there were a parallel universe, a negative to our positive (like a photo) each universe has its own frame of existence that would not be known to the other. That being the case, the only reference point one would have in regards to his or her life is the one that he or she is conscious of. A parellel universe would be irrelevant to the universe you find yourself in. Time travel could not cross the barrier, it could not undo that which was done, nor could it do that which was not done, life is progressive, it is a law. Time travel breaks the law.

[WTF]

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Do the other parallel universe's have OperationSports? If not, then I want no part of it, lol.

This is all very interesting stuff though.

[BTB]

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Oh man my head is gonna explode but I love reading about this stuff. I'm about to ditch business school and go into quantum physics woot

[CMH]

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Do the other parallel universe's have OperationSports? If not, then I want no part of it, lol.

This is all very interesting stuff though.

I checked and it does, but for some reason your parallel self decided not to register the day you did in this universe.

I think your parallel self got stuck reading a book instead and everything changed after that. Sad story.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Exactly. Not only that, they are the ones that left a history or documentation of their dealings with "other beings" within the heiroglyphic writings, there are all kinds of hints and direct indications that they encountered beings from elsewhere. Some of the things the egyptians did, to this day cannot be duplicated, an example would be the creation of a pyramid.

Isn't there also the thing where the height of thier biggest pyramid multiplyed by pi r squared (ie: 3.16... * the height) equals the approximate distance from the earth to the moon in either metres or kilometres. I don't know if it's 100% fact but that would sure be a big coincedence if it was.