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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #16
    Re: Your Daily Stupid News

    I know that, but if you set a law, then there should be people enforcing them, regardless of how stupid it is.

    If that's the case, why have the law in the first place? To "save lives?" And how is that supposed to happen when people don't enforce them...
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    • Double Eights
      Banned
      • Nov 2005
      • 5733

      #17
      Re: Your Daily Stupid News

      Originally posted by DeeForThree
      but there isn't much if any real proof that second hand smoke kills
      HAHA, Let me inform you of secondhand smoke dangers.

      Known Facts of Secondhand Smoke

      What else do you think secondhand smoke should cause, before smoking is completely banned?

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      • Chief Illinimac
        Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
        • Dec 2004
        • 2365

        #18
        Re: Your Daily Stupid News

        Originally posted by Double Eights
        HAHA, Let me inform you of secondhand smoke dangers.

        Known Facts of Secondhand Smoke

        What else do you think secondhand smoke should cause, before smoking is completely banned?
        Off the top of my head, I know potato chips at some point "caused cancer" and so did chocolate. I also have heard that chocolate does not cause cancer. I also didn't say smoking can't be banned, but being banned in a bar is pretty ridiculous. That's what they were made for, drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes.

        I'm pretty sure the government has also said at times that marijuana will make you a psycho killer, and that has been proven false. I grew up with parents who smoke a pack a day. I used to be just like you and hate it and denounce everything involving cigarettes. However I have come to realize that I am either a miracle man or I am living proof that second hand smoke will not kill you. I am very physically active and have 0 trouble breathing during high intensity workouts (particularly long periods of basketball). If I die of lung cancer, well I give you permission to dance on my grave and tell me I was wrong.

        Dammit, why am I explaining all this anyway? All I said was it should be legal in bars, not that it doesn't cause cancer.

        Oh, and people are living longer now than they did before cigarettes. That includes the smokers. Everyone is going to die sometime, and I highly doubt that second hand smoke is going to be the sole, or even major cause of any deaths. I for one will embrace the smokers and even join once in a while for a cig. To me its worth it because I will be enjoying life while everyone fights for banishment of cigarettes. I've noticed that a lot of smokers can be quite fun, and if I'm gonna die from second hand smoke anyway (because I've lived through it 22 years) well then I'm gonna enjoy my life while I have it.
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        • KENYON06
          Pro
          • Dec 2004
          • 890

          #19
          Re: Your Daily Stupid News

          Originally posted by Double Eights
          I can't stand smokers; slowly killing everyone around them. If I wanted to get cancer, I'd smoke myself. My rights to Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are being taken away every time I come in contact with someone smoking.

          I'm not saying smoking should be completely banned, but at least it should be banned from public places. I agree 100% with what this new law says. If you want to smoke, do it in your own car or your own home, where I do not have to come in contact with it.
          What the? If people are smoking outdoors then what's the problem? Do you go sucking on tailpipes then complaining about smog?

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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42570

            #20
            Re: Your Daily Stupid News

            Originally posted by Pared
            You just did it....?
            I guess this will qualify for daily stupid news: My friend emailed his professor yesterday saying that he couldn't turn in an online assignment by the end of the day because he didn't have his email address, and his professor gave him a day's extension with a response including his email address.
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            • Double Eights
              Banned
              • Nov 2005
              • 5733

              #21
              Re: Your Daily Stupid News

              Originally posted by DeeForThree
              Off the top of my head, I know potato chips at some point "caused cancer" and so did chocolate. I also have heard that chocolate does not cause cancer.
              You honestly expect me to continue reading your post after you compare smoking to eating potato chips and chocolate?

              And as for the guy who says smoking outside doesn't matter. Have you ever been outside with a smoker in front of you? The smoke travels right from his or her mouth/nose right into your face.

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              • Chief Illinimac
                Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
                • Dec 2004
                • 2365

                #22
                Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                Originally posted by Double Eights
                You honestly expect me to continue reading your post after you compare smoking to eating potato chips and chocolate?

                And as for the guy who says smoking outside doesn't matter. Have you ever been outside with a smoker in front of you? The smoke travels right from his or her mouth/nose right into your face.
                Hey bro, my point was that I hear stories on the news all the time about "studies show X and Y are causes of Z type of cancer." For someone who is trying to insult my intelligence, you should try reading more closely.
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                • Double Eights
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 5733

                  #23
                  Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                  Originally posted by DeeForThree
                  Hey bro, my point was that I hear stories on the news all the time about "studies show X and Y are causes of Z type of cancer." For someone who is trying to insult my intelligence, you should try reading more closely.
                  I'm not trying to insult you or your intelligence. I am just amazed that anyone could be so naive to believe that firsthand and secondhand smoke are not dangerous.

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                  • X*Cell
                    Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 8107

                    #24
                    Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                    Originally posted by DeeForThree
                    Hey bro, my point was that I hear stories on the news all the time about "studies show X and Y are causes of Z type of cancer." For someone who is trying to insult my intelligence, you should try reading more closely.
                    I agree with this. You can't believe everything the media tells you. The media is a business like any other, and if more drama and severity in their stories pumps up their tv ratings, then guess what they're gonna do?

                    I have to find the link on the whole reason why marijuana became illegal in the United States. The article will stun you.
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                    • X*Cell
                      Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 8107

                      #25
                      Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                      Originally posted by Double Eights
                      I'm not trying to insult you or your intelligence. I am just amazed that anyone could be so naive to believe that firsthand and secondhand smoke are not dangerous.
                      it's true, but then you can make a law telling people to stop having sex, so to stop the spread of virus' and such. I mean, you can ban pretty much anything that can have a harmful effect on you or society. Doesn't mean that you should be able to.
                      SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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                      • TheGamingChef
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 3384

                        #26
                        Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                        Originally posted by DeeForThree
                        Hey bro, my point was that I hear stories on the news all the time about "studies show X and Y are causes of Z type of cancer." For someone who is trying to insult my intelligence, you should try reading more closely.
                        Dude, at that time that was the best science we had. Now, we have better science. Will some things be proven differently later with better science? Probably. But right now, to the best of our knowledge, secondhand smoke will cause cancer, and potato chips won't.

                        You don't want to believe that, fine, but if I do (and I do), I don't want your stick of cancer lit where I can breathe it.

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                        • Chief Illinimac
                          Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 2365

                          #27
                          Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                          Originally posted by TheGamingChef
                          Dude, at that time that was the best science we had. Now, we have better science. Will some things be proven differently later with better science? Probably. But right now, to the best of our knowledge, secondhand smoke will cause cancer, and potato chips won't.

                          You don't want to believe that, fine, but if I do (and I do), I don't want your stick of cancer lit where I can breathe it.
                          First of all, I already said I am a non-smoker. Second, those news stories still happen today, they aren't obsolete science. Trust me, statistics are a big part of what I'm going into (accounting) and I am aware of the ways they can be manipulated. Not everything you hear on the news or read on a government website is true.

                          400-500 years ago (if you attack me for the exact date, well I'm quitting this argument) popular science held that the Earth was flat. People have developed since then, but some things repeat. We still don't know everything despite what you hear reported as fact too often.
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                          • MassNole
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 18848

                            #28
                            Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                            Originally posted by X*Cell
                            2nd one is hilarious... sorry

                            In Belmont City, NY they are passing legislation that says you can't smoke outdoors anymore. Only in houses occupied by one person, and cars that only have the smoker in it.

                            I can't stand liberals, telling everyone what to do.
                            Good for Belmont City, NY! You shouldn't have the right to blow a carcinogenic into the air in any public place. I only hope every other city in America passes the same law within a year.

                            Originally posted by DeeForThree
                            I don't smoke, but I have to wonder what smartass decided that you couldn't smoke in BARS!!! in certain cities. If you can't smoke in a bar, where the **** are you supposed to smoke? I hate leaving the bar smelling like smoke, but there isn't much if any real proof that second hand smoke kills, and denying rights to smoke in a place made for using drugs to have a good time, well that is denying life, liberty and the pursuit of freaking happiness.
                            Well because bars are places of public accommodation and the jackholes who smoke shouldn't be able to destroy my health and well being with their cancer sticks.

                            Originally posted by Double Eights
                            And as for the guy who says smoking outside doesn't matter. Have you ever been outside with a smoker in front of you? The smoke travels right from his or her mouth/nose right into your face.
                            I detest people who smoke outside. When I was in college I would hate leaving the buildings because of the smokers perched on the steps. I always likened blowing smoke near someone to spitting on them, with spitting being the less offensive of the two.

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                            • Blzer
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42570

                              #29
                              Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                              I know this is way out there, but hell, BAN SMOKING. Yes, I know... it's an impossible task, and it is even just way out of proportion. That's just what I think though.
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                              • MassNole
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                                • Mar 2006
                                • 18848

                                #30
                                Re: Your Daily Stupid News

                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                I know this is way out there, but hell, BAN SMOKING. Yes, I know... it's an impossible task, and it is even just way out of proportion. That's just what I think though.
                                As much as I would love that, given the problems the banning of alcohol created I don't think it could be done. But if they want to make smoking tobacco, or what ever tobacco companies pass of as "tobacco", then just legalize marijuana too.

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