****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #1246
    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

    It's gotta be someone that Kate doesn't like.

    She doesn't know Jack's father and from what we've seen in flashforwards it doesn't seem that he speaks much about him to her.

    It would seem that it would have to be someone that Kate met on the Island because both her and Jack have to have some connection to the person.

    The only other person that both have a connection to is the Marshall but if he were in the casket then Lost would have completely found a way to blow my mind.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • deeman11747
      G-M*nnnn
      • Feb 2003
      • 3194

      #1247
      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

      Originally posted by YankeePride
      It's gotta be someone that Kate doesn't like.

      She doesn't know Jack's father and from what we've seen in flashforwards it doesn't seem that he speaks much about him to her.

      It would seem that it would have to be someone that Kate met on the Island because both her and Jack have to have some connection to the person.

      The only other person that both have a connection to is the Marshall but if he were in the casket then Lost would have completely found a way to blow my mind.
      Under that theory...its gotta be Claire then. We know Kate loves Aaron...and Claire alive and off the island would be a threat to that,

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #1248
        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

        Originally posted by ehh
        I agree, Sawyer's fate is still up in the air. They've
        mentioned "he decided to stay" but that doesn't mean he's still alive.

        Didnt Kate take a phone call from him in the episode before last? That was a flash forward.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #1249
          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Didnt Kate take a phone call from him in the episode before last? That was a flash forward.
          It wasn't clear who she was speaking to. She only said that she was doing something for him.

          It's possible that he asked her to do something for him before she got off the Island. My guess is it has something to do with his daughter.
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #1250
            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

            I also have no idea how Sawyer would be making a phone call from the Island.
            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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            • devilsjaw
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 3572

              #1251
              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

              Originally posted by fistofrage
              Its not realistic that the survivors could have bought a controlling interest in a large multinational corporation.

              1. The airlines have limits on their liabilities in case of death or dismemberment. Even if it was $100 Million per occurrence which it wouldn't be it wouldn't be enough. And they would probably only be entitled to $10 Million or less.
              2. A Company's worth is generally worth 5 times its earnings.
              3. You are looking to have to come up with $1 Billion+ to have a possibility of taking over even a moderately sized company.
              Isn't Ben supposed to have loads of money?

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              • soltrain
                The Batman
                • Feb 2003
                • 6863

                #1252
                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                I highly doubt Jack is in the casket. Don't you think the caretaker would have done a double take or something?

                I'm guessing it is either Ben (too obvious), Locke (I have no idea why?) or Michael. All I know is that I'm gonna be pissed if it is Desmond.
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                • fistofrage
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13682

                  #1253
                  Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                  Originally posted by devilsjaw
                  Isn't Ben supposed to have loads of money?
                  That's a good question. Yes he's supposed to have quite a bit of money, but if he had Billions you would think that he would have invested in some weaponry to protect the island. AT minimum some surface to air missiles, heavy machine guns, some coastal defense mines.

                  And even if you have the money you can't keep a hostile takeover quiet, the fact that her father was shocked he was being bought out was unrealistic.

                  The whole Ben financial factor has intrigued me from the get go. Ben deals with situations always the same way. Goes in defenseless, says something that makes his enemies beat him to an inch of his life, somehow earns their trust, they let him go, someone that shouldn't die, dies....Rinse and repeat. It would seem that flashing his fat wallet would be a simpler solution to his problems.
                  Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #1254
                    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                    I know this is random, but I still can't believe they killed Ben's daughter the way they did.

                    Wow.... just... out of nowhere!
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                    • aukevin
                      War Eagle, Go Braves!
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 14700

                      #1255
                      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      I know this is random, but I still can't believe they killed Ben's daughter the way they did.

                      Wow.... just... out of nowhere!
                      I didn't really care about Alex that much, but for the French lady to be gone so quick was stunning.

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                      • Skerik
                        Living in this tube
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5215

                        #1256
                        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        I know this is random, but I still can't believe they killed Ben's daughter the way they did.

                        Wow.... just... out of nowhere!
                        Yeah, up until then whenever he'd get into trouble, I'd always think to myself, "Ben's got this." But when that happened the look on my face was pretty much the same as the look on his. Definitely a wow moment for me from this season.

                        And a very disappointing one, because Alex had gotten a lot hotter than she was when we were first introduced to her character. A shame.
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #1257
                          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                          Hell yeah she did. I'd hit. I don't know what it was but her eyes were just... wow this season.
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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #1258
                            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                            You can't hit it if I'm going to. I don't share.
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                            • USF11
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4245

                              #1259
                              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                              Originally posted by devilsjaw
                              Isn't Ben supposed to have loads of money?
                              You can buy companies using a tiny amount of money down. I have done case studies where people bought control of 500 million dollar compaines using 5 million bucks, there are many variables. Think about it like buying a house with 5-10% down. It may not seem rational but it is very possible.
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                              • ehh
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #1260
                                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                Originally posted by USF11
                                You can buy companies using a tiny amount of money down. I have done case studies where people bought control of 500 million dollar compaines using 5 million bucks, there are many variables. Think about it like buying a house with 5-10% down. It may not seem rational but it is very possible.
                                Wouldn't that only be if the company was for sale though? I can't picture someone with $5 mil deciding to buy some Fortune 500 company.
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