Amy Winehouse

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Amy Winehouse

I'm not proud that she died, but I have no sympathy for her. For her family, the people that cared for her, that's where my condolences stand.

They made an effort and couldn't help her.

Call me jaded, but when you live through those circumstances of seeing someone you love ruin themselves, it's extremely difficult to show remorse for the passing of another person for the same reasons.

I've shed my tears over this. I can't shed another.

I hear what your saying, and I agree to a certain extent, but its easier for you and others to say this because she was not related to you. Don't want to but my business out there but my father is a 22 year recovering addict, he was heavily into drugs when I was growing up, and if my dad had passed I would not sit here an say oh he did it to himself and I will not shed a tear over him.

That's why its easy for you an others to say. Someone lost there daughter and a family lost its member, just keep that in mind. To me coming from first hand of seeing it, its sad and she needed help weather she took it or refused, she may have given up on her self, but the saddest part is everyone else gave up around her too. My dad, I never gave up on and him and talked even through his addicted, her just thought his life was worth living.


And to that I say, R.I.P Amy.

[andayaman]

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I hear what your saying, and I agree to a certain extent, but its easier for you and others to say this because she was not related to you. Don't want to but my business out there but my father is a 22 year recovering addict, he was heavily into drugs when I was growing up, and if my dad had passed I would not sit here an say oh he did it to himself and I will not shed a tear over him.

That's why its easy for you an others to say. Someone lost there daughter and a family lost its member, just keep that in mind. To me coming from first hand of seeing it, its sad and she needed help weather she took it or refused, she may have given up on her self, but the saddest part is everyone else gave up around her too. My dad, I never gave up on and him and talked even through his addicted, her just thought his life was worth living.


And to that I say, R.I.P Amy.

Well said FF. It's always been my belief that nobody has the right to judge another person, especially at their weakest. That's because nobody but Amy herself knew what she was going through. Most of us will probably never feel the pain she's felt or experienced the things she's gone through. And if you ever come close, I hope you have a great support system because that may be the only thing that saves you and that's not even a sure thing.

I'm not big on Tupac by any means, but the dude had one thing right when he said "Only God can judge me". I know it sounds silly, but these words really ring true to me.

R.I.P Amy

[RockinDaMike]

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Personally I came back from drug addiction so I know somewhat her struggles. I had to fight and make changes in my life to become better person and its happened.

I just cannot feel sorry for her. I've been there, I'v had the urges many times after I quit, and I was strong enough to say no and realize what is more important to me.

But I'm not going to disrespect her and I wish her peace. I feel for the friends and family that fought for her, I'm sure she is grateful that she has loved ones not every drug user does.

[ODogg]

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What you reap is what you sow, she really should have sought help to change if she wanted to live. She obviously didn't care for her own life so why should anyone else?

[buckeye02]

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Sad, she had a great voice.

[Pete1210]

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From her history I also assumed alcohol or drug overdose. But no drugs were found in the apartment and initial autopsy results are inconclusive.

[ex carrabba fan]

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What you reap is what you sow, she really should have sought help to change if she wanted to live. She obviously didn't care for her own life so why should anyone else?

OK but nobody is asking anyone to care.

I don't get this line of logic, like seriously, who gives a **** if you care or not? You weren't important to her she obviously wasn't important to you. End of story.

The difference comes when people decide to try and joke about it. That's where I find it cheap but other than that, great, you don't care that she's dead. Others are sad that she won't be making anymore music. Cool story.

[aholbert32]

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What you reap is what you sow, she really should have sought help to change if she wanted to live. She obviously didn't care for her own life so why should anyone else?

She went to rehab voluntairly twice in the last two years. Thats not seeking help?

[roadman]

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OK but nobody is asking anyone to care.

I don't get this line of logic, like seriously, who gives a **** if you care or not? You weren't important to her she obviously wasn't important to you. End of story.

The difference comes when people decide to try and joke about it. That's where I find it cheap but other than that, great, you don't care that she's dead. Others are sad that she won't be making anymore music. Cool story.

I'm sad that she won't be making any more music. She had a beautiful voice. She does have a duet coming out with Tony Bennett's duets II on September 20th. I've read that there were feeble attempts to come out with new music since her last album 5 yrs ago.

[jonpt]

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Some of the responses come off a little harsh. By some posters' mode of thinking she is basically an idiot who is selfish and doesn't care for anyone but herself. By that same judgement you could also say:

Anyone who smokes doesn't care for their family and is an idiot cause smoking kills so they were asking for it.
Anybody who overeats is an idiot and is just asking for a heart attack which means food > than thier families and friends to them.
Anybody who doesn't excercise, doesn't wear a seatbelt, obviously those who commit suicide, etc, etc.

IMO, Her behavior signals something other than selfishness...more of a complete lack of self worth. But i'm not going to try to judge her because I have no clue what her life was like on a personal level or what kind of mental state she was in at the end of her life. Just a tragic ending.

[Trevytrev11]

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Some of the responses come off a little harsh. By some posters' mode of thinking she is basically an idiot who is selfish and doesn't care for anyone but herself. By that same judgement you could also say:

Anyone who smokes doesn't care for their family and is an idiot cause smoking kills so they were asking for it.
Anybody who overeats is an idiot and is just asking for a heart attack which means food > than thier families and friends to them.
Anybody who doesn't excercise, doesn't wear a seatbelt, obviously those who commit suicide, etc, etc.

I think a strong argument can be made that those are all very selfish choices a person can make. In every case, a choice is being made that benefits the person, while potentially putting their family and loved ones at risk, no? Isn't that the purist definition of selfishness?

People smoke for several reasons and almost all of them are for self gratification in one way or another. In doing so, they all knowingly put themselves at risk for cancer, which puts their family at risk of potentially losing a family member. I don't they do this out of spite or are malicious in their day to day thinking, but often out of the fact that they believe it will never happen to them. But if and when it does, I'm sure they will instantly regret that decision.

Now, if someone starts smoking when they are 16, obviously they are not thinking about the well being of the unborn children 30 years down the road. However, once those kids are born and they still are adamant about not changing their lifestyle (at least trying), it's hard not to see that as a selfish act.

[jonpt]

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I think a strong argument can be made that those are all very selfish choices a person can make. In every case, a choice is being made that benefits the person, while potentially putting their family and loved ones at risk, no? Isn't that the purist definition of selfishness?

People smoke for several reasons and almost all of them are for self gratification in one way or another. In doing so, they all knowingly put themselves at risk for cancer, which puts their family at risk of potentially losing a family member. I don't they do this out of spite or are malicious in their day to day thinking, but often out of the fact that they believe it will never happen to them. But if and when it does, I'm sure they will instantly regret that decision.

Now, if someone starts smoking when they are 16, obviously they are not thinking about the well being of the unborn children 30 years down the road. However, once those kids are born and they still are adamant about not changing their lifestyle (at least trying), it's hard not to see that as a selfish act.

I think you hit on it right there in bold. I think most people would quit if they knew for a fact what their death date and cause of death was. But because it could be some time in the distant future for reasons unknown, alot of people have the "I will change tomorrow" attitude.

[The 24th Letter]

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didnt Heath Ledger die of abuse of prescription drugs? was his thread like this?

just wondering.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Not gonna point out Heath or compare situations with other celebs but people really do act naive about substance abuse or if not naive then certainly apply double standards. Other celebs just aren't as out there with it and don't make themselves an easy target to the media.

24th Letter does open up a can of worms

[TheMatrix31]

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didnt Heath Ledger die of abuse of prescription drugs? was his thread like this?

just wondering.

I bumped the thread. Check it out.