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  • jmood88
    Sean Payton: Retribution
    • Jul 2003
    • 34639

    #1

    Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

    By Joel Garreau
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Wednesday, October 31, 2007; Page C01

    Aubrey de Grey may be wrong but, evidence suggests, he's not nuts. This is a no small assertion. De Grey argues that some people alive today will live in a robust and youthful fashion for 1,000 years.

    In 2005, an authoritative publication offered $20,000 to any molecular biologist who could demonstrate that de Grey's plan for treating aging as a disease -- and curing it -- was "so wrong that it was unworthy of learned debate."


    Now mere mortals -- who may wish to be significantly less mortal -- can judge whether de Grey's proposals are "science or fantasy," as the magazine put it. De Grey's much-awaited "Ending Aging: The Rejuvenation Breakthroughs That Could Reverse Human Aging in Our Lifetime" has just been published.

    The judges were formidable for that MIT Technology Review challenge prize. They included Rodney Brooks, then director of MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory; Nathan Myhrvold, former chief technology officer of Microsoft; and J. Craig Venter, who shares credit for first sequencing the human genome.

    In the end, they decided no scientist had succeeded in blowing de Grey out of the water. "At issue is the conflict between the scientific process and the ambiguous status of ideas that have not yet been subjected to that process," Myhrvold wrote for the judges.

    Well yes, that. Plus the question that has tantalized humans forever. What if the only certainty is taxes?

    * * *

    Dodging death has long been a dream.

    Our earliest recorded legend is that of Gilgamesh, who finds and loses the secret of immortality.

    The Greek goddess Eos prevails on Zeus to allow her human lover Tithonus to live eternally, forgetting, unfortunately, to ask that he also not become aged and frail. He winds up such a dried husk she turns him into a grasshopper.

    In "It Ain't Necessarily So," Ira Gershwin writes.

    Methus'lah lived nine hundred years

    But who calls dat livin' when no gal'll give in

    To no man what's nine hundred years

    Aubrey David Nicholas Jasper de Grey, 44, recently of Britain's Cambridge University, advocates not myth but "strategies for engineering negligible senescence," or SENS. It means curing aging.

    With adequate funding, de Grey thinks scientists may, within a decade, triple the remaining life span of late-middle-age mice. The day this announcement is made, he believes, the news will hit people like a brick as they realize that their cells could be next. He speculates people will start abandoning risky jobs, such as being police officers, or soldiers. . . .

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    Originally posted by Blzer
    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)
  • theaub
    Stop! Homer Time!
    • Feb 2004
    • 9643

    #2
    Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

    I wonder if Auburn would win a national title...
    Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

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    • Lintyfresh85
      Where have I been?
      • Jul 2002
      • 17492

      #3
      Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

      yeah that's probably a bad idea. Either that or there would have to be some massive population control.
      http://flotn.blogspot.com

      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

      Originally posted by trobinson97
      Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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      • jmood88
        Sean Payton: Retribution
        • Jul 2003
        • 34639

        #4
        Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

        Originally posted by Lintyfresh85
        yeah that's probably a bad idea. Either that or there would have to be some massive population control.
        Well if we lived that long we would probably be able to colonize other planets.
        Originally posted by Blzer
        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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        • stiffarmleft
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 1986

          #5
          Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

          Judging by your post count Jmood, you've been around 1000 years, at least.

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          • Lintyfresh85
            Where have I been?
            • Jul 2002
            • 17492

            #6
            Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

            Originally posted by jmood88
            Well if we lived that long we would probably be able to colonize other planets.
            Well if that's the case, I'm taking one of those moons that orbit Jupiter as my own.
            http://flotn.blogspot.com

            Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

            Originally posted by trobinson97
            Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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            • jmood88
              Sean Payton: Retribution
              • Jul 2003
              • 34639

              #7
              Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

              Originally posted by stiffarmleft
              Judging by your post count Jmood, you've been around 1000 years, at least.
              Lol. I'm still not bad as elicoleman who admitted to have something like 100,000 posts on a message board or something crazy like that.
              Originally posted by Blzer
              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #8
                Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                Imagine how expensive that would be to live 1,000 years.



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                • DLaren
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 1476

                  #9
                  Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                  So I read all four pages and this is my understanding of the situation:

                  - "Unwholesome goo" accumulates in our cells, which causes our cells to break-down over time (age).

                  - Our bodies have not evolved a means to quickly clean up all of the built up "goo" that our body accumulates.

                  - The goal is to find/create a substance that can be injected into our bodies to clean-up the "goo" around our cells.

                  - They found a substance that could possibly "clean" our cells called Lipofuscin.

                  - Now the question is, "How do we get the Lipofuscin into our bodies and onto our cells?"


                  I have a feeling that this biologist will be exploring the possibilities of Nano-Technology (micro-scopic robots that are injected into the body). Researchers have been using nano-tech to repair damaged cells and transport medicine to organs for a few years now.

                  I wonder if they can create a few thousand micro-robots that have the ability to transport the "lipofuscin" to all of the cells in our body? I'm sure it's a 1000 times more complicated than that, but it would be a damn good place to start.

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                  • The C
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 7538

                    #10
                    Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                    Imagine how expensive that would be to live 1,000 years.
                    Travis Henry would be able to form his own nation eventually.

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                    • Fresh Tendrils
                      Strike Hard and Fade Away
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 36131

                      #11
                      Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                      Nano-robots? They were mentioned in that zombie thread from earlier this week.



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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #12
                        Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                        Nano-technology could potentially do alot. I remember reading awhile ago that they could be used to take grass and make a loaf of bread by manipulating the molecules in the grass
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • jfsolo
                          Live Action, please?
                          • May 2003
                          • 12965

                          #13
                          Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                          I understand why it has to be so, but its sad that we can't really have fully fleshed out discussions about science and/or technological advancements, because to do so honestly, we would have to discuss politics, religion, and culture as well. Oh well, it is what it is.
                          Jordan Mychal Lemos
                          @crypticjordan

                          Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                          Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                          • johnny_park
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 355

                            #14
                            Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                            I think I'll pass. I don't want to have to go to work that long.

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                            • Double Eights
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 5733

                              #15
                              Re: Project Hopes to Expand Lifespans to 1,000 years

                              Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                              Nano-robots? They were mentioned in that zombie thread from earlier this week.
                              That is exactly what I thought when I read "Nano-Technology."

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