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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #271
    Re: Is the truth about to come out???

    Originally posted by Adam Dayton
    I'd rather spend all our money figuring out how we can develop robots that can dig into the frozen lakes of mars and run some sort of testing to see if the samples contain any elements of microscopic life. Even if it was primitive life from millions of years ago, it answers the age old quesiton-

    Yes, life has the ability to exist on other planets. Mathmatically, if life once existed on a planet within our Solar System, then there is essentially a one hundred percent chance life currently exists among the trillians of other planets in the universe.
    I think the more likely place to find life is Europa. That place has carbon dioxide and TONS of water. Some have speculated that there may be lots of life teeming in the Europan waters.
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    • sb24
      MVP
      • Dec 2008
      • 3165

      #272
      Re: Is the truth about to come out???

      Originally posted by YankeePride
      I think generally speaking, people would freak out.

      The end-result of this freak out has been toned down over the years thanks to the overabundance of alien material we see today. If this was 1950, people would go bananas. I think today, people would just freak out.

      And since we're still edgy about outer space life, any information regarding it's existence will remain on the down low. We aren't prepared to handle that news just yet.

      edit:

      This is going to sound conspiracy-like, but I think it's important to note that we still get a mix of friendly alien life vs. violent alien life in movies. But, pay attention to these movies. Whenever an alien is threatening it is portrayed as different, as a monster. It looks different and behaves differently. The more human they look and behave, the more friendly they are. If they are friendly and different looking then they over-do the friendliness - almost as if to calm us down (see: MIB).

      I can't recall a friendly alien that expressed real human emotions like anger.
      I like your edit. Interesting thought.

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #273
        Re: Is the truth about to come out???

        Originally posted by sb24
        I like your edit. Interesting thought.
        I think the closest we get with a human looking alien that expressed emotion is Mork from Mork and Mindy.

        But even then, that emotion was clouded in comedy - an easy tool to relax people. You could never feel threatened by Mork, even if he was "angry" about a particular situation. Most of the time, it was never interpreted as anger. We just assumed he didn't know any better because he was confused. So we laughed.

        I'm not trying to say that this is done on purpose. That's why I wanted to point out that it's going to sound conspiracy-like. That was my warning that it's not my intention. It's probably more of our perceived perception of alien life or even deeper, what we hope.
        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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        • Adam Dayton
          Banned
          • Jan 2008
          • 1835

          #274
          Re: Is the truth about to come out???

          Originally posted by sb24
          Wow didnt know we had an alien debate on os..... interesting.

          My take on the govt control...
          Its like when you were a kid, if your parents saw something really unexplainable, did they tell you all about it or tell you to go to your room and they didnt see anything. They avoid the topic. Even though you can see the fear in their eyes.

          What would we do if we confirmed aliens?
          what would that do the dominate religions in the World (im not religious but i know the cathlic church recently said, "dont discount aliens they could be one of gods creations."(read on a news site but cant confirm with a link)
          If us citizans knew aliens were real that would FLIP our world.

          I dont think people are even close to being able to handle aliens. Many people can, but not the general public.

          Thats not to say i believe in aliens, i just like theory. I also think people are stupid, so govt trying to control things isnt to far outta reach to me.

          As for cebby.... wow that would be a waste to investigate peoples sightings. Unless its a massive sighting,(lights over phoenix). Thats sighting had everything from cops to city council people talking. Those are worth asking questions. Even though you will NEVER confirm alien sightings.

          Again what would we do if we confirmed aliens?
          The exact same can be said for ghosts. Thousands of annual reports from highly "busy" places like scottish castles, and yet none have ever been officially documented? Please. Don't you ever wonder why the government has not really invested money into looking at such things, leaving organizations like TAPS to discover weird **** on their own. As for religions, they would do what they always do, keep stretching their bs to concide with the latest scientific and technological findings.
          Last edited by Adam Dayton; 03-25-2009, 03:47 PM.

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          • Cebby
            Banned
            • Apr 2005
            • 22327

            #275
            Re: Is the truth about to come out???

            Originally posted by SPTO
            We don't need to spend billions of dollars to investigate such claims.
            Yes you would.

            1. You're dealing with thousands of claims a year ranging from Maine to Florida to California to Washington. You'd probably need a few thousand employees at least, and you'd still be racking up ridiculous travel costs.

            2. Each and every employee would have to have the highest security clearance to ensure any sighting wasn't an experimental aircraft or weapon. This would require the investigative unit to have an absurdly high payroll.

            3. Every claim would have to be thoroughly investigated, since this meth addicted redneck could be the guy who really saw a UFO.

            The US Gov't has an extensive black budget program that's been covering this stuff for decades.
            Really? Were you informed of this by Agent K or Agent J?

            - Secondly, a lot of folks within the expolitics and disclosure realms are convinced that the Obama administration will be the first US Admin. to fully acknowledge and disclose the existence of Extra-Terestrial life on this planet. Everything from reverse engineered tech to government interaction with ETs will be fully exposed.
            I am willing to bet cash money that this does not happen. Not only are those types of people so far away from real politics for anything they think to matter, but every group of crazies that tend to lean left think that Obama's administration is going to make all of their dreams come true (aliens will be acknowledged, weed will be legal, we'll all live in peace with the whales, and oil will be eliminated), just as all of the nuts on the right thought Bush would legalize RPGs, build an 18 mile tall wall on the Mexican border, and allow Alabama to succeed.

            None of that will happen. We aren't in talks with the space people.

            As Rondell Robinson says in the first season of The Shield, "what good is police protection if nobody knows about it?"

            Think about it, why are we wasting time with missile shields and nuclear submarines if we were backed by aliens? If I was president, I'd come out and say "Hey Russia, China, North Korea, the Middle East, Mexican Drug Cartels, whoever's starting **** in the Balkans, Venezuela, you're all on notice. You guys thought we invented nuclear weapons? Stealth bombers? Michael Jordan? No. We got that from aliens. Lockhead Martin? More like Lockhead Martian. If any of you step out of line, we're going to drop some biblical **** on you. We've got spaceships, laser guns, teleportation, sex robots, and all kinds of crazy stuff. Believe that"

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #276
              Re: Is the truth about to come out???

              Black Budget article

              This is from the NYT.

              Wired magazine article from the early '90s
              Last edited by SPTO; 03-25-2009, 04:09 PM.
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              • Brandon13
                All Star
                • Oct 2005
                • 8915

                #277
                Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                Originally posted by Cebby
                just as all of the nuts on the right thought Bush would legalize RPGs, build an 18 mile tall wall on the Mexican border, and allow Alabama to succeed.

                Think about it, why are we wasting time with missile shields and nuclear submarines if we were backed by aliens? If I was president, I'd come out and say "Hey Russia, China, North Korea, the Middle East, Mexican Drug Cartels, whoever's starting **** in the Balkans, Venezuela, you're all on notice. You guys thought we invented nuclear weapons? Stealth bombers? Michael Jordan? No. We got that from aliens. Lockhead Martin? More like Lockhead Martian. If any of you step out of line, we're going to drop some biblical **** on you. We've got spaceships, laser guns, teleportation, sex robots, and all kinds of crazy stuff. Believe that"


                You ****ing kill me.

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                • Cebby
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 22327

                  #278
                  Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  I'm not denying that a black budget exists since it obviously does.

                  I just don't believe they're wasting a ton of money on investigating aliens.

                  I think if we're sinking hundreds of billions of dollars into the black budget, it's far more likely to be going to Lockheed to build us a Flying Death Machine of Terror than it is to look for aliens.

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #279
                    Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                    Why are we still saying that the American Government is the only one that knows about Alien life.

                    If there are aliens with the hopes of interacting with the President of the United States, they've more than likely already shook hands with every major political leader of this world.

                    This isn't War of the Worlds where everything happens in the US. There are bunch of other countries out there too.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • Cebby
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 22327

                      #280
                      Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                      Originally posted by YankeePride
                      Why are we still saying that the American Government is the only one that knows about Alien life.
                      Because our technology is better than everyone else's, and instead of that being the result of the smartest people in the richest state in the world, it's because of aliens.

                      On the 0% chance that aliens are actually interacting with a government, it would have to be the United States.

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                      • Brandon13
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 8915

                        #281
                        Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                        Originally posted by YankeePride
                        Why are we still saying that the American Government is the only one that knows about Alien life.

                        If there are aliens with the hopes of interacting with the President of the United States, they've more than likely already shook hands with every major political leader of this world.

                        This isn't War of the Worlds where everything happens in the US. There are bunch of other countries out there too.
                        Yeah, I'm not quite sure people understand just how large of a cover up would have to be in place.

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                        • ChubbyBanana
                          Don't Trust Influencers
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 7071

                          #282
                          Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                          This thread is on it's last legs.

                          Please keep the religious and political discussion out of here. As I'm sure most of you have heard before, it's not allowed here at Operation Sports.

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                          • fistofrage
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13682

                            #283
                            Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                            How many light years away is one of those potential life supporting planets?

                            I don't doubt there could be life somewhere, but actually getting to eachother could be a chore.

                            It's very possible that 2 life supporting planets could be in the same solar system somehwere and contact would be commonplace.

                            There a billions of planets and being able to get to one that has advanced life probably won't happen with human technology for numerous reasons. I tend to doubt Aliens could get here either.
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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #284
                              Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                              Originally posted by fistofrage


                              There a billions of planets and being able to get to one that has advanced life probably won't happen with human technology for numerous reasons. I tend to doubt Aliens could get here either.
                              I agree with the first part but the 2nd part not so much so. Remember we're just babies in the grand scheme of things. There must be other civilizations millions of years older then we are who has technology that would look like magic to us.
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                              • ThreeKing
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 5852

                                #285
                                Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                                Originally posted by Brandon13
                                Yeah, I'm not quite sure people understand just how large of a cover up would have to be in place.

                                It's a worldwide cover-up. Not just the US.

                                The governments are working together. Russia, France, England are just a few that want this to be out. But they won't do it without the US's permission.

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