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  • Salhus
    He can talk the talk
    • Jan 2006
    • 1799

    #301
    Re: Is the truth about to come out???

    Just sayin...the transistor, hovercraft, black box, solar cell, and mobile phone were all invented soon after the Roswell incident...just sayin

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    • DaveDQ
      13
      • Sep 2003
      • 7664

      #302
      Re: Is the truth about to come out???

      We really can't prove anything true or untrue. Consider the infinite solar system that never ends. It blows my mind.

      Still, I can't prove there is other life, but I also can't disprove it.
      Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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      • Herbsinator
        All Star
        • Sep 2003
        • 4573

        #303
        Re: Is the truth about to come out???

        The page you are seeking has expired and is no longer available at msnbc.com.
        I SMELL CONSPIRACY.

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        • sb24
          MVP
          • Dec 2008
          • 3165

          #304
          Re: Is the truth about to come out???

          Originally posted by Cebby
          It would seem that letting more people in on the conspiracy would be a detriment to keeping the secret.
          Based on shows and stuff iv read, there have been plenty if not more ufo activity in those countries. So from there the thought would/could be that they might ask us if we had anything to do with it and vise versa. Therefore there were already in on the secret. At that point the govts would be scared because how do you demand control of citizins when you cant even answer whats going on. Thats the thought to why we wouldnt be letting them in. Im not saying its right you make great points as well, i figured id give you a different thought on it. Not that id expect you to change yours.
          As for the rest on them not telling cuz we said so and whatnot i wouldnt believe all that. I dont think we would have control like that. And we wouldnt have let russia in the last 17-18 years. They have had their own issues though the 50's and on like we have.
          I also thought alot of these countries are alot more open to the public about ufos then the us. Therefore i really dont think theres a conspirancy with them, just that the communication lines were open more than we think bout ufos.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #305
            Re: Is the truth about to come out???

            Originally posted by salhus47
            Just sayin...the transistor, hovercraft, black box, solar cell, and mobile phone were all invented soon after the Roswell incident...just sayin
            I get it, but that's just picking to pick. I can pick anytime in history and say that something came after it so therefore it's a result of that event.

            The idea of the mobile phone did come up in 1947 (same year as the Roswell incident), but the first cell phone didn't pop up until the mid-70's.
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            • Cebby
              Banned
              • Apr 2005
              • 22327

              #306
              Re: Is the truth about to come out???

              Originally posted by sb24
              I dont think we would have control like that. And we wouldnt have let russia in the last 17-18 years. They have had their own issues though the 50's and on like we have.
              I also thought alot of these countries are alot more open to the public about ufos then the us. Therefore i really dont think theres a conspirancy with them, just that the communication lines were open more than we think bout ufos.
              I don't know if you are aware, but Russia used to be the Soviet Union until 17-18 years ago. Aside from essentially being at war with them, making a grand alien conspiracy rather unlikely, the bigger thing is that the state completely broke down.

              This meant that state secrets were revealed including secret police informants, spies, and other major secrets. Coupled that with the new free market for someone with proof of aliens to make bank, and there's no other conclusion than that the Soviets were not in communication with aliens or everyone would know.

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              • fistofrage
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13682

                #307
                Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                Originally posted by salhus47
                Just sayin...the transistor, hovercraft, black box, solar cell, and mobile phone were all invented soon after the Roswell incident...just sayin
                I could name thousands of advancements that came out of military research during WWII.

                In less than 100 years time, they went from not being able to fly to landing on the moon. If you want a more compelling argument you might want to try to convince us that Orville and Wilber Wright were visited by Aliens.
                Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                • PVarck31
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16869

                  #308
                  Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                  For anyone interested in this, go to youtube and search for "disclosure project". Pretty amazing stuff there. Lots of very credible people talking about government secrets.

                  One of the most amazing things was hearing that the US actually wanted Vernon Von Braun to work on a space defense system to defend against ALIENS!!

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                  • sb24
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3165

                    #309
                    Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                    Originally posted by Cebby
                    I don't know if you are aware, but Russia used to be the Soviet Union until 17-18 years ago. Aside from essentially being at war with them, making a grand alien conspiracy rather unlikely, the bigger thing is that the state completely broke down.

                    This meant that state secrets were revealed including secret police informants, spies, and other major secrets. Coupled that with the new free market for someone with proof of aliens to make bank, and there's no other conclusion than that the Soviets were not in communication with aliens or everyone would know.
                    To be honest when i say russia i think of that giant mass of land that chages names to often thoughout history for me to care. I usually forget what the name was at the time(USSR always sticks out). What i was saying was we didnt just let them into a bunch of privlidges info. They had their own. So when they collapsed i could see sharing info(not much). Thats not going to happen during the cold war.

                    At first i was thinking they could communicate but when i rethink how long and severe the cold war was, your right i highly doubt it.
                    Last edited by sb24; 03-26-2009, 12:30 PM.

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                    • ThreeKing
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 5852

                      #310
                      Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                      Originally posted by pjv31
                      For anyone interested in this, go to youtube and search for "disclosure project". Pretty amazing stuff there. Lots of very credible people talking about government secrets.

                      One of the most amazing things was hearing that the US actually wanted Vernon Von Braun to work on a space defense system to defend against ALIENS!!

                      Excellent point pjv.

                      Cebby, these are people who WANT to, and are PREPARED to go in front of Congress and want to testify. They have documentation about what has happened to them.

                      Hundreds of credible people from numerous countries want this information out. And when I say credible, I'm talking high-ranking military officials, military pilots, commercial pilots, goverment officials, former governors, former presidents etc.

                      You telling me are these people are crackpots??

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                      • fistofrage
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13682

                        #311
                        Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                        Originally posted by ThreeKing
                        Excellent point pjv.

                        Cebby, these are people who WANT to, and are PREPARED to go in front of Congress and want to testify. They have documentation about what has happened to them.

                        Hundreds of credible people from numerous countries want this information out. And when I say credible, I'm talking high-ranking military officials, military pilots, commercial pilots, goverment officials, former governors, former presidents etc.

                        You telling me are these people are crackpots??
                        So why aren't these people taking their story to the history channel, etc. Showing full documentation of these items and other proof? Why don't all these credible people with all their credentials ban together and sign a Declaration of Government Coverup and UFO existance and roll out their evidence so the public can all see it at once.

                        All the UFO experts and people with information I see hardly look credible. In fact of the spectrum was Crazy --------> Credible, they'd occupy the left side of that spectrum for sure.
                        Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                        • Heelfan71
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 19940

                          #312
                          Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                          I believe in UFO's but not little green men flying them. Just pilots testing future aircraft.

                          Funny how there are no pics of aliens, just people seeing stuff in the sky, and assuming it is from outer space
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                          • Heelfan71
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 19940

                            #313
                            Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                            Originally posted by ThreeKing
                            Excellent point pjv.

                            Cebby, these are people who WANT to, and are PREPARED to go in front of Congress and want to testify. They have documentation about what has happened to them.

                            Hundreds of credible people from numerous countries want this information out. And when I say credible, I'm talking high-ranking military officials, military pilots, commercial pilots, goverment officials, former governors, former presidents etc.

                            You telling me are these people are crackpots??

                            documentation? you mean words they wrote down. Zero proof. And most are crackpots or they saw something in the sky and assumed little green men were in there.

                            There are plenty of crackpots in high places. Most of our government is crackpots !
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                            • fishepa
                              I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 18989

                              #314
                              Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                              LOL @ this thread.

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                              • fistofrage
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13682

                                #315
                                Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                                Originally posted by Heelfan71
                                I believe in UFO's but not little green men flying them. Just pilots testing future aircraft.

                                Funny how there are no pics of aliens, just people seeing stuff in the sky, and assuming it is from outer space

                                People underestimate the power of the human mind and the ability for humans to produce great things.

                                These ancient civilizations had much more home bred knowledge than we give them credit for.

                                Technology is almost advancing at a terminal velocity pace. Look where we were 100 years ago, 30 years ago. We can't even fathom what another 100 years will bring and its not because little green guys are telling us how to do it.
                                Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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