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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #16
    Re: Michael Jackson

    Originally posted by coffeeholic
    Looking back at his career-it would be impossible to deny his talent on any level. AND-I do remember when Beat it came out-I rocked out to that more than once on my guitar at home.
    Ha!

    Originally posted by TruFunkSoldier
    Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer and most talented singer/dancer I have ever seen. I cannot think of anyone with his amount of natural talent. To top that off, he is a perfectionist. If you watch any of his performances you will be amazed by his attention to detail. He has influenced musicians, dancers, and songwriters all over the world and his work will be remembered for ages.

    He has also created an image that is larger than life. No matter where he goes in the world, there are fans and non-fans hunting him down just for a glimpse. There is an energy and magic about him. He has touched more lives in the world than presidents, athletes, and religious leaders. In America, we are bombarded with the media's portrayal of him because it sells, but unfortunately, it has created a real hatred. If you read about what people who know him say about him, you would first feel awed and then feel sad for what he has endured. Obviously, he has personal issues like his dissatisfaction with his appearance, but that is human. He has the resources to create whatever life he wants, and this has angered many people. However, he never changed. He is the same person he was when he sang "ABC" or "Rock With You" or "Billie Jean."

    So to answer your question, no I do not have to separate the music and the person. I think he's a musical genius and gift to the world.
    Wow... I like the guy and think he's amazingly talented as well... but what you just wrote made me feel... I don't know, it just came off as a bit stalker-ish. I agree that he carries an aura about him. Your last comment is actually why I brought up this topic. I don't know if I can call him a "gift to the world" after all the strange things we've seen/heard/read about this individual outside of his music and performance ability.
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    • SLAYER
      *n H**t*s..R*b**ld*ng..
      • Jun 2004
      • 1915

      #17
      Re: Michael Jackson

      For the record, EVH's solo and the guy with the baseball cap & coke bottle glasses spazzing out in the video made Beat It. :P

      Originally posted by Pared
      Got ya. It doesn't matter to me if you like the guy and his music or not, as long as you can respect how talented he is.

      I thought you were saying the guy wasn't talented.

      Is he really putting out a new album? I'm afraid it will bomb. Not in terms of sales, but quality-wise... it just won't compare. His music progressively got worse as he got older after Dangerous, IMO.
      I agree, for the most part, but some of the songs off of his last album (I think in 2001 or 02) were pretty good.

      Either way, Thriller & Off The Wall are classic pop/R&B albums.
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      • Scottdau
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 32580

        #18
        Re: Michael Jackson

        Very talent, but very sick too. He never really grew up, but his music is second to none.

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        • CaptainZombie
          Brains
          • Jul 2003
          • 37851

          #19
          Re: Michael Jackson

          Originally posted by coffeeholic
          One of my alltime favorite bands-Queen-had a homosexual lead singer.
          To me, gay or not gay, both Freddie Mercury and MJ will go down as being some of the most talented singers, performers ever. It is a shame that we lost Freddie at such a young age, imagine Queen rocking still to this day.

          Now, the whole MJ kiddie crap is what is bothersome, because I just wish that stuff wasn't true for a man that is so talented. I can deal with him looking like a plastic figure, even though I think he looked ok from his younger days.............but whatever it is came calling out of his body.

          Originally posted by Scottd
          Very talent, but very sick too. He never really grew up, but his music is second to none.
          I second that.
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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #20
            Re: Michael Jackson

            Originally posted by Pared
            His name alone gets your attention.

            One of the greatest artists of our time, it's a shame all the garbage and strange things he's gone through. You would think someone this talented wouldn't be as insane.

            I was watching Smooth Criminal this morning and it's absolutely incredible. There aren't many music videos the same caliber as MJ's back in the day. B/w this, Bad, Billie Jean and most famous of all THRILLER, this guy was just an incredible musician and performer.

            Agree, disagree? Can you separate the artist and apparently strange individual or are they one and the same?

            Smooth Criminal is one the top five video dancing exhibitions ever. I remember back in the day, me and my boys arguing about whose dancing was better Mike's, or Hammer's. Of course they both fell of the map soon after that.
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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #21
              Re: Michael Jackson

              I think I'm going to try and pick up the movie-video to Smooth Criminal. I'm also going to start looking for Bad and Beat it. I have Thriller and Billie Jean. Never locked the video to Rock With You but I love the song. All he's doing is just standing there and singing IIRC.
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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #22
                Re: Michael Jackson

                I can separate the man from the musician. I HAVE to if I want to be consistent because Lord knows my favourite singer had skeletons in his own closet! As for MJ's genius. I think that gets talked up a tad too much. I'm not going to say he didn't have any musical genius because that'd be wrong but he never really wrote or produced his own material (tho I know he had huge imput on how his songs should sound) If you really look back at it objectively a lot of credit should go to Quincy Jones for MJ's output in the '80s. At least there was a focus to his music then. I've noticed that since he parted ways with Jones that he's tried just about every genre of music from rock to pop ballads with varying degrees of success.

                I also think that MJ has stuck to one particular vocal sound for way too long. He isn't as versatile vocally as he was when he was younger. I'd like to see him slipping into different vocal ranges and such rather then the high pitched falsetto sound he has.
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                • pk500
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8062

                  #23
                  Re: Michael Jackson

                  Jackson was unbelievable during his "Off the Wall" and "Thriller" days. Easily the most exciting mainstream entertainer on the planet at that point.

                  But his weirdness supplanted his artistry shortly after that point. The Jackson family just seems strange, and think about it: Jackson never had a childhood. The dude has been performing on the world's stage since he was about 5 years old. That would f*ck up a lot of people, clearly the case with him.

                  Ever notice how most of his improprieties have taken place around children? I think he enjoys spending time around kids because he never really was a kid himself. That's no excuse for some of the actions he has pulled with kids, but I think it explains why he loves the company of children.

                  Problem is, he seems to love it too much.

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                  • trobinson97
                    Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 16366

                    #24
                    Re: Michael Jackson

                    Young Michael vs Old Michael, I'd go with the young. I am talking about Michael Jackson from the Jackson 5 to Off the Wall. I think it was because even though you could see he was incredibly talented, he was also a lot more raw. It's like how Michael Jordan was the man once he perfected the fadea way and his entire repertoire, but he was so much more exciting as that young raw beast in his early days to me. Also, the music from those Mikes was a lot funkier than Thriller onward. My favorite song on Thriller was "Wanna Be Starting Something" but other than that, I'd much rather prefer OfW or J5 stuff. That whole family was just unreal to me.

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                    • ac11367
                      I love meaty chics
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 853

                      #25
                      Re: Michael Jackson

                      To help separate Michael the singer from Michael the weirdo, I just pop in the Jackson 5 CD and listen to "I'll Be There" and "I Want You Back".

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #26
                        Re: Michael Jackson

                        Was that a giant fake robot? LMAO
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                        • trobinson97
                          Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 16366

                          #27
                          Re: Michael Jackson

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          Was that a giant fake robot? LMAO

                          Lol, yes it was.
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                          • Moses Shuttlesworth
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                            • Aug 2006
                            • 9435

                            #28
                            Re: Michael Jackson

                            Dude is a freak. His old music was the sheet though.

                            It's a shame what happened. It's sometimes hard for me to watch his music videos, because all of that talent has gone down the drain.

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                            • Tha_Kid
                              All Star
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 6550

                              #29
                              Re: Michael Jackson

                              That video trobinson posted was impressive... wow.

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                              • X*Cell
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                                • Sep 2002
                                • 8107

                                #30
                                Re: Michael Jackson

                                I thought about this yesterday. I have seen bad nose jobs, weird voice changes and odd looking hair, but I have never ever ever witnessed in my life someone changing the pigment of their skin color ever.

                                Yet one of our greatest icons who ever lived did this. No question that the man was/is talented, but wow what a freak.
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