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Yep, the Nielsens are based off a sample of like 5,000 (maybe more now, I would hope so...) homes, so if you don't have a box, you don't count. To be honest, with digital cable/satellite boxes, I'm not sure why the rating system hasn't been changed, but whatever...Listen to some of my covers:
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So, because people have better things to do than watch a 3-hour show of millionares giving themselves shiny trophies and speaking about movies as if they were the most important things int he world, people are "ignorant"?
Wow, I'm a pretty big fan of movies and have enoyed a lot of movies that get nominated, but really couldn't care less what awards get won and I certainly don't care to watch a 3-hour+ show about it.
"OOOHH!! Some guy I never heard of won best editing for a foreign animated documentary/musical! He's going to thank a bunch of people I never heard of, too! Get the kids! This important and we'd be ignorant to miss it!!"Last edited by born_bad; 02-26-2008, 01:44 PM.Comment
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If you want to blame someone, blame the Oscar pandering movie releases.
Anybody could have seen this coming.
They nominated 5 movies. All 5 were currently in theaters.
0 of the 5 were mainstream releases.
What happens with this? Nobody sees any of these movies. I counted in one of the threads complaining about nobody seeing TWBB that in one day, there was only about 7 or 8 showings of the movie in DC, 10 or so in Baltimore, and 2 in Frederick. None were before about 4:30, and most were in small theaters that weren't showing many other movies. That doesn't leave a lot of room to see it, especially if you have kids.
When you release movies in December and January to try and grab an Oscar nomination, you end up with this. If even one or two had come out earlier and had been On Demand or DVD, a lot more people would have watched it. As it is, only Juno was a somewhat widespread movie, and even then it wasn't that everywhere.
And there's also the fact that the Oscars are stupid.Comment
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That's why reading the entire thread is fundamental.So, because people have better things to do than watch a 3-hour show of millionares giving themselves shiny trophies and speaking about movies as if they were the most important things int he world, people are "ignorant"?
Wow, I'm a pretty big fan of movies and have enoyed a lot of movies that get nominated, but really couldn't care less what awards get won and I certainly don't care to watch a 3-hour+ show about it.
"OOOHH!! Some guy I never heard of one best editing for a foreign animated documentary/musical! He's going to thank a bunch of people I never heard of, too! Get the kids! This important and we'd be ignorant to miss it!!"Comment
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Listen to some of my covers:
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/chiefillinimac/
Currently:
Asilos Magdalena by The Mars Volta
LOST Theme
The Rain Song by Led Zeppelin
Rage Against the Machine Acoustic Medley
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Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)Comment
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They do factor in DVR use now, but again it's the "select chosen few." The problem is that Nielsen would have to supply a box to everyone, or gather the information from the individual cable/satellite providers, which would delay the timeliness of the ratings' release. They do need to change their system, as I've always wondered whether or not there would be any significant difference in the ratings if everyone was included, not just a small sample size. And even though the odds of a huge difference is slim, it would still be more accurate.Yep, the Nielsens are based off a sample of like 5,000 (maybe more now, I would hope so...) homes, so if you don't have a box, you don't count. To be honest, with digital cable/satellite boxes, I'm not sure why the rating system hasn't been changed, but whatever...
As for the Oscars, what are they supposed to do? Yeah, it's a shame all the films were released at this time, but it's not their fault they weren't major releases. Actually, No Country and Juno were major releases. But the Academy doesn't control the release distribution of the films, and typically now that the awards were Oscar nominated/winners, people will make it a point to see them. And a lot of the small release films (like Once) show just how accurate the awards are (as opposed to the Emmy Awards, who snubbed Friday Night Lights and gave an award to Boston Legal) in that the best truly do get nominated. Sure, there have been snubs, but if a film like Once with a 100k budget can deservedly win an award, I'd say the Oscars do a pretty good job. But of course it's there fault that Once didn't have a larger release.Comment
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Of course if people don't watch the movies that are nominated then they won't watch the awards but I don't see what point you're trying to make. Like The Soldier said, if these movies were actually advertised and shown in more than 3 theaters in the afternoon then more people would watch. The only reason I heard about alot of these movies were because of the internet and other one's(like that Diving Bell movie) I still have no idea where they came from or when they came out.Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)Comment
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He said he missed the show for the Lakers game.
I just figured I'd post a long post to make myself feel better about not walking a mile and a half in the rain to go to Econ.Comment
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Juno and NCOM have been advertised like crazy. There are 2 reasons the ratings were down: Not big stars were nominated or had a chance to win (Clooney and Depp were nominated but no one thought they would beat Lewis) and there werent any mainstream movies nominated. Thats not the Academy's fault though. The only mainstream movie that I thought could have been nominated was American Gangster and thats a bit of a stretch.Of course if people don't watch the movies that are nominated then they won't watch the awards but I don't see what point you're trying to make. Like The Soldier said, if these movies were actually advertised and shown in more than 3 theaters in the afternoon then more people would watch. The only reason I heard about alot of these movies were because of the internet and other one's(like that Diving Bell movie) I still have no idea where they came from or when they came out.Comment
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So should the Academy only nominate major-release films? I think his ignorant point meant that people should make a point to see the movies if they are that good. Like I said with Once, it had an unimaginably small release, yet when it got awards buzz, I Netflixed it.Of course if people don't watch the movies that are nominated then they won't watch the awards but I don't see what point you're trying to make. Like The Soldier said, if these movies were actually advertised and shown in more than 3 theaters in the afternoon then more people would watch. The only reason I heard about alot of these movies were because of the internet and other one's(like that Diving Bell movie) I still have no idea where they came from or when they came out.
What I don't understand is why some of these films, with the awards buzz they've gotten, don't then move to wider distribution. I think "nominated for best picture" as a slogan would drive a lot of people to go see a film.Comment
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Think about it in music terms Mood.Of course if people don't watch the movies that are nominated then they won't watch the awards but I don't see what point you're trying to make. Like The Soldier said, if these movies were actually advertised and shown in more than 3 theaters in the afternoon then more people would watch. The only reason I heard about alot of these movies were because of the internet and other one's(like that Diving Bell movie) I still have no idea where they came from or when they came out.Comment
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Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)Comment

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