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  • J_Posse
    Greatness Personified
    • Jun 2005
    • 11255

    #15181
    Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

    Originally posted by Jukeman
    3 bars wouldn't fly circa '96

    This would be labeled as biting in that era.


    He ended up paying $100,000 for those bars.

    Apparently Meek is dropping a Mixtape on Drake tonight lol.

    I give to you Exhibit A: Snoop Doggy Dogg - Lodi Dodi (Doggystyle 1994)



    Biting other MC's rhymes has been around and "accepted" for a while now. Snoop Dogg in '94 was just the beginning.


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    Last edited by J_Posse; 07-31-2015, 01:00 AM.
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    • Jukeman
      Showtime
      • Aug 2005
      • 10955

      #15182
      Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

      Originally posted by J_Posse
      I give to you Exhibit A: Snoop Doggy Dogg - Lodi Dodi (Doggystyle 1994)



      Biting other MC's rhymes has been around and "accepted" for a while now. Snoop Dogg in '94 was just the beginning.


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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #15183
        Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

        This dude is really upset over this. Like really bro? Lol

        But yeah, that mess was straight basura. He had all the ammo in the world to use and didn't use any of it at all. Should've opened with the puff line in the beginning but that's nitpicking.

        Other than that, the expectations of him coming out with something to top even Charged Up(Depending on which side you're on)were low anyway since the clown wanted to take like 40 years to respond and he still **** the bed.

        And to top it off, you got other Artists AND Producers clowning you for dropping that garbage.

        Meek, you my man and I'll always be grateful for those Flamerz projects, Tony Story and Dreams and Nightmares...but take these bag of L's and keep it moving man.

        Oh and as for biting, it's never been accepted. People just stopped caring as long as the lyrics were tight. Hell, The Game gets killed for biting anybody that's on the same track as him to use one example.
        Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 07-31-2015, 06:39 AM.
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        • ScoobySnax
          #faceuary2014
          • Mar 2009
          • 7624

          #15184
          Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

          In the midst of this beef, I've been bumping the hell out of Hopsin's new album, Pound Therapy. **** is crazy!
          Originally posted by J. Cole
          Fool me one time that's shame on you. Fool me twice can't put the blame on you. Fool me three times, **** the peace sign, load the chopper let it rain on you.
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          • DieHardYankee26
            BING BONG
            • Feb 2008
            • 10178

            #15185
            Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

            Originally posted by cam21224
            Track was weak sauce. Is this below about Drake or Safaree?

            NSFW
            Spoiler


            Spoiler


            That's ****ing disgusting if true
            Originally posted by Julia Beverley
            Drake got peed on by TI's drunk friend Cap at the Takers premiere in Hollywood. (or so I heard from reliable sources)
            Originally posted by Julia Beverley
            Story I heard: Cap was fresh out of the Feds & drunk during the premiere, peed in the aisle & on Drake. He got clowned for not reacting.


            Originally posted by DJ Folk
            @Johnny_Doe416 NO SHADE I LOVE THE SIX....but the story was true it was an accident pissed on...not worth meek putting in a song tho.
            Originally posted by DJ Folk
            @Johnny_Doe416 cattie would be embellishing the story and adding extra non sense like meek did..thats cattie. not what i did.


            This is what I could find on that.

            Originally posted by Meek Mill
            Money make a sucker that told look trill again
            Is Tweet self aware? Does he not realize that he snitched on ****ing Twitter? Now he's struggling to bring up all this personal ****, it's embarrassing. I feel like Obi Wan cutting his legs off when I've got the higher ground. Talks all this **** about the real but he's been on Twitter and Instagram all week, seriously this dude is indefensible. I'm no longer upset, I've just saved some space from another loser's discography before the Windows 10 upgrade.

            Should've known this dude was just hypersensitive when he got upset and told Wale he wasn't MMG because he didn't tweet his first album.
            Last edited by DieHardYankee26; 07-31-2015, 07:19 AM.
            Originally posted by G Perico
            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #15186
              Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread



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              • DieHardYankee26
                BING BONG
                • Feb 2008
                • 10178

                #15187
                Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                The best part of the diss track is the Drake Vanilli album art.
                Originally posted by G Perico
                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                • J_Posse
                  Greatness Personified
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 11255

                  #15188
                  Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                  Originally posted by Jukeman
                  Then what is the difference between what Snoop did (reworking an entire song) versus what Drake did (re-wording but essentially using the same two, three verses) on the Y.G. track?

                  Like I said, traditional biting went out the window once Snoop did what he did. He can go back and be a revisionist or try to absolve himself of what biting has become, but he helped make it acceptable with that record.

                  Regardless of whether or not he was "paying homage" or helped Douglas E. Fresh and Slick Rick "get paid." Pretty sure Drake's verse helped shine some light on '4-Tay and his pockets too.

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                  • Jukeman
                    Showtime
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10955

                    #15189
                    Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                    Originally posted by J_Posse
                    Then what is the difference between what Snoop did (reworking an entire song) versus what Drake did (re-wording but essentially using the same two, three verses) on the Y.G. track?

                    Like I said, traditional biting went out the window once Snoop did what he did. He can go back and be a revisionist or try to absolve himself of what biting has become, but he helped make it acceptable with that record.

                    Regardless of whether or not he was "paying homage" or helped Douglas E. Fresh and Slick Rick "get paid." Pretty sure Drake's verse helped shine some light on '4-Tay and his pockets too.

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                    Snoop reached out and asked the originators for permission to cover the famous song

                    Calling Snoop a biter for that is like calling Redman and them biters for covering rappers delight.

                    Drake didn't reach out and took something from joe nobody while using his delivery and cadence.


                    But back to Meek. This beef is turning out like the Pac/Mayweather fight. Meeks going to get beat with petty jabs because he came in with the wrong gameplan. If Drake drop something again then Meek mind as well delete his twitter and bury the rest of those diss records. Like seriously what yes man said it was ok for him to release that? It was way too late for that type of record. People was waiting 4 days, the hype was real but you decide to drop a track with inside jokes, filled with curse words that made the track inaudible because of the edits needed to be done for radio, used a lackluster beat while coming at three other guys no one cared about.


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                    • J_Posse
                      Greatness Personified
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 11255

                      #15190
                      Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                      Originally posted by Jukeman
                      Snoop reached out and asked the originators permission to cover the famous song.

                      Drake didn't reach out and took something from joe nobody while using his delivery and cadence.


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                      Pretty sure Rappin' 4-Tay isn't a "Joe Nobody." He's a legend in the Bay area and pretty well regarded in a lot of Hip Hop circles.

                      And people bite lines without permission all the time, so what? Why do you need "permission" to recite or use a few lines? Are they in freaking pre-school or something?

                      Jay-Z, Nas, Kanye and damn near everyone else presently in the game has used someone else's lines in a rhyme. Doesn't make Drake the devil cause he did so as well. Biting and have a ghostwriter(s) are totally different issues and the latter is far more egregious.

                      Snoop literally took a classic record and remade it into his own track "permission" or not. Still doesn't change the fact that he began this issue of biting with that record.

                      Even starts the record off with a disclaimer to all the haters to "eat a d***."

                      Def Squad covered "Rapper's Delight" for a compilation disc honoring "Golden Era" Hip Hop. They literally covered the song word for word, while Snoop took Slick Rick's rhyme style, most of his verses and cadence but changed up section to accommodate his more "gangsta" persona. And to be far I also strongly dislike Blackstar's reworking of "A Children's Story" and consider that biting too. Even though I absolutely love Mos Def and Talib Kweli.

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                      • Jukeman
                        Showtime
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10955

                        #15191
                        Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                        Originally posted by J_Posse
                        Pretty sure Rappin' 4-Tay isn't a "Joe Nobody." He's a legend in the Bay area and pretty well regarded in a lot of Hip Hop circles.

                        And people bite lines without permission all the time, so what? Why do you need "permission" to recite or use a few lines? Are they in freaking pre-school or something?

                        Snoop literally took a classic record and remade it into his own track "permission" or not. Still doesn't change the fact that he began this issue of biting with that record.

                        Even starts the record off with a disclaimer to all the haters to "eat a d***."

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                        Gillie the Kid is a legend in the Philadelphia area but I am sure he's a Joe nobody to the rest of the US.


                        Whether he had permission or not and was biting or paying homage I am sure it was frowned upon back then.

                        If we are comparing Snoop to Drake in this regard, no one ever considered Snoop a lyricist or even thought about putting him in the same breath as Rakim, Tupac, Nas and Biggie. 4 guys who if people found out were using reference tracks and writers, the public's heads would explode.

                        Also outside of what Murder was the case, Snoop have never been a personal rapper like Drake is known for (and like the other guys mentioned). Personal raps are less forgiving than learning about a club record not being written by the artist. Same goes for RnB dating back in the 70's, radio hits usually had writers but personal records were mostly written by the artist ala Marvin Gaye.



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                        • DieHardYankee26
                          BING BONG
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 10178

                          #15192
                          Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                          That song was with YG, another guy from the West Coast. I would think his fans would be more aware of who the dude Drake was "biting" was. It'd be like if someone did a song with Tweet and "bit" Gillie, you would think Philly people would be more aware of what it was. Whether they call it biting or homage depends I guess. The dude Drake took the verse from wasn't happy about it and got his money. And I had no idea who the **** he was before Who Do You Love came out so he got a little 15 minutes too.

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                          Last edited by DieHardYankee26; 07-31-2015, 09:35 AM.
                          Originally posted by G Perico
                          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                          • J_Posse
                            Greatness Personified
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 11255

                            #15193
                            Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                            Originally posted by Jukeman
                            Gillie the Kid is a legend in the Philadelphia area but I am sure he's a Joe nobody to the rest of the US.


                            Whether he had permission or not and was biting or paying homage I am sure it was frowned upon back then.


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                            Outside of his record(s) with Major Figgas, most people in Hip Hop only know Gillie as Wayne's alleged ghostwriter. Rappin' was actually on major label artists' records at the time.

                            Anyway, it was frowned upon but Snoop helped open the lane with that bull****. Doesn't mean his version is bad but it made that sort of **** tolerable. When before the 1990's that never would have been accepted.

                            Once again, biting (in the traditional sense) and having a ghostwriter(s) pen rhymes for you are two entirely different issues. Drake is guilty of the former, like everyone else in the game including Jay-Z, Nas, Eminem and so forth, but the latter hurts his standing much more in traditional Hip-Hop circles.

                            I don't think anyone with a sense of history and the technical aspects of rhyming considers Drake a lyricist - I certainly don't and I'm not the most well versed person in the technical aspects - what this controversy does is make him look like anindustry created fabrication.

                            A guy that had raw talent, good (potential) production but needed something extra (ghostwriters perhaps) to become a megastar. It hurts him in the rap world only, ala Milli Vanilli not actually singing, but likely not in the mainstream (Pop music) world.

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                            • Jukeman
                              Showtime
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #15194
                              Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                              Lol Jahlil Beats tweeted that Boi1da unfollowed him. My god is hip hop soft right now. Can we go back to the 90's?




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                              • DieHardYankee26
                                BING BONG
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 10178

                                #15195
                                Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                                What's softer? Unfollowing a dude for making a beat for a competitor, or giving a **** that someone unfollowed you enough to tweet it to the masses?

                                LOL, like he doesn't have dude's number or can't get it. Sad all around.
                                Originally posted by G Perico
                                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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