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  • Leon
    An Old Trafford
    • Mar 2003
    • 4981

    #301
    Re: Heroes Season 3

    Originally posted by soltrain
    Well they should have never used time travel in the first place - because that automatically creates plot holes. For instance - why doesn't Peter care about his girlfriend from season 2?
    She was ugly anyway. He probably realized that.

    In all seriousness though, she MAY be erased forever since Peter prevented the virus from spreading from season 2's finale and thus, erasing that future timeline where Caitlin was trapped.

    As for Peter being too powerful, damn it, we don't care. He's nothing without his powers. Definitely no interesting backstory (so far, unless they add something) to him and he's the only equalizer to Sylar.
    "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

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    • soltrain
      The Batman
      • Feb 2003
      • 6863

      #302
      Re: Heroes Season 3

      Originally posted by Leon
      She was ugly anyway. He probably realized that.

      In all seriousness though, she MAY be erased forever since Peter prevented the virus from spreading from season 2's finale and thus, erasing that future timeline where Caitlin was trapped.

      As for Peter being too powerful, damn it, we don't care. He's nothing without his powers. Definitely no interesting backstory (so far, unless they add something) to him and he's the only equalizer to Sylar.

      That's the problem. Kring is now starting to eliminate the parts that made this show great. People WANTED to see the Heroes square off. I want to see Peter grab every power imaginable and **** **** up.

      The problem is that if the spoiler is true, then every future scene we saw wasn't real because Peter didn't have his powers. Time paradoxes are a bitch.
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      • Money99
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2002
        • 12695

        #303
        Re: Heroes Season 3

        I can't put my finger on it, but I've lost total interest in this show since last year.

        I don't know if it's just gotten stale or what. But the last two years I couldn't miss this show. But this season, I have to force myself to watch. I got about 4 episodes in and I haven't bothered to catch up on the PVR'd shows I've missed.

        On the flip side, I'm totally into Smallville again after a 3 year hiatus. Maybe I'll jump back on the Heroes bandwagon in a couple years too.

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        • Leon
          An Old Trafford
          • Mar 2003
          • 4981

          #304
          Re: Heroes Season 3

          If there's one thing I'm wishing for for this show, it's that they tell a story without having to use time-travel. All this prevent the bad future from happening shtick is getting old. Heck, imagine Ando actually going bad and using that red beam thing on Hiro like we saw a few episodes back. We get character development! We wanna know why it happens! As it is, most of the characters are practically the same since the end of season 1 with the exception of Sylar.

          I love this show, but I hope they do better.
          "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

          @nicroni

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          • Money99
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2002
            • 12695

            #305
            Re: Heroes Season 3

            Originally posted by Leon
            If there's one thing I'm wishing for for this show, it's that they tell a story without having to use time-travel. All this prevent the bad future from happening shtick is getting old. Heck, imagine Ando actually going bad and using that red beam thing on Hiro like we saw a few episodes back. We get character development! We wanna know why it happens! As it is, most of the characters are practically the same since the end of season 1 with the exception of Sylar.

            I love this show, but I hope they do better.
            That was one thing I didn't like either. All three shows now have been about stopping an apocalypse of some kind. It feels like each seasons premise is the exact same.

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            • rudyjuly2
              Cade Cunningham
              • Aug 2002
              • 14815

              #306
              Re: Heroes Season 3

              I think this season has been fantastic so far. The first double episode felt rushed but everything has been great since then.

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              • Beantown
                #DoYourJob
                • Feb 2005
                • 31523

                #307
                Re: Heroes Season 3

                Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                I think this season has been fantastic so far. The first double episode felt rushed but everything has been great since then.
                That's my feelings as well.

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #308
                  Re: Heroes Season 3

                  The premise is what's getting me.

                  1. Travel into the future to see Apocalyptic Event.
                  2. Save Claire.
                  3. Stop Apocalyptic Future

                  That's pretty much the concept of the entire show.

                  It might be time to start developing some real villians here. I don't just want to know they exist. They need to be doing something.

                  It's possible that Heroes would be better as a non-serialized show with an overarching mythology.

                  I think of Alias or Burn Notice, for example. They have an overarching mythology that covers the span of an entire season/series, but each episode has a unique situation that comes up.

                  Why not have this Apocalyptic stuff while things are going down in every episode? As is, it's mostly just one really long episode.

                  Even Lost with it's flashbacks/flashforwards has this covered since every episode has a unique storyline while the entire season has a storyline that covers it.
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                  • Money99
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 12695

                    #309
                    Re: Heroes Season 3

                    Originally posted by YankeePride
                    The premise is what's getting me.

                    1. Travel into the future to see Apocalyptic Event.
                    2. Save Claire.
                    3. Stop Apocalyptic Future
                    Bingo. It's been 3 seasons of this. Can we move on to a different plotline please?

                    Something tells me they'll have to save the world again in Season 4.

                    "Lost" can't start up again soon enough.

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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #310
                      Re: Heroes Season 3

                      Originally posted by Money99
                      Bingo. It's been 3 seasons of this. Can we move on to a different plotline please?

                      Something tells me they'll have to save the world again in Season 4.

                      "Lost" can't start up again soon enough.


                      Very true. They had a lot of promise for seasons 2 and 3... but it's just getting a bit silly.

                      I'm hoping this series will have the same growing pains as LOST did... but I doubt they can tie it all together as LOST seems to be doing. Flash forwards in Lost were absolutely brilliant. I'd like to see that same sort of "surprise" here.
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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #311
                        Re: Heroes Season 3

                        Originally posted by Pared


                        Very true. They had a lot of promise for seasons 2 and 3... but it's just getting a bit silly.

                        I'm hoping this series will have the same growing pains as LOST did... but I doubt they can tie it all together as LOST seems to be doing. Flash forwards in Lost were absolutely brilliant. I'd like to see that same sort of "surprise" here.
                        It won't.

                        The difference is that Lost, despite people still believing otherwise, had a plan. The entire series was pretty much mapped out from the start.

                        Heroes has no future. They have no idea where they are going from season-to-season. It's just coming together as they go.
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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #312
                          Re: Heroes Season 3

                          Whats w\ people thinking that since THEY dont like the show anymore, its doomed to be cancelled? LOL its hilarious.

                          Anyway, there has definitely been some bad spots this season, but im enjoying it overall....its good TV. Then again, I watch to enjoy....im not the analyzing type. Not that thats a bad thing....thats how some watch TV..

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                          • Coug00
                            LOB
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3476

                            #313
                            Re: Heroes Season 3

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            Whats w\ people thinking that since THEY dont like the show anymore, its doomed to be cancelled? LOL its hilarious.
                            Who said that was the reasoning?

                            I'd look more to the 4.6 Heroes pulled in Monday. It was getting 11+ two years ago. Heroes ratings have been in a free fall and they just canned two of their biggest writers trying to shake things up (smells of desperation). NBC is throwing a ton of money into the series and not getting the returns. If this keeps up, it won't last.
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                            • SpacemanSpiff
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 1279

                              #314
                              Re: Heroes Season 3

                              Originally posted by Coug00
                              Who said that was the reasoning?

                              I'd look more to the 4.6 Heroes pulled in Monday. It was getting 11+ two years ago. Heroes ratings have been in a free fall and they just canned two of their biggest writers trying to shake things up (smells of desperation). NBC is throwing a ton of money into the series and not getting the returns. If this keeps up, it won't last.
                              Exactly, they lost a lot of viewers last year so they would need to have some strong writing to draw people back in but the way this season is going, there's no motivation for those who missed Season 2 to come back to this show. In fact, more and more people are failing to tune in. Just because this show was awesome in Season 1 doesn't mean it's bulletproof for 5 years. Heroes probably gets more ad time on NBC than just about any other show they have, a 4.6 is not exactly a good payoff for that.
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                              • Leon
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 4981

                                #315
                                Re: Heroes Season 3

                                NBC can also do its part by moving Heroes to a different night. Mondays are just brutal.
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