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  • superjames1992
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    • Jun 2007
    • 31381

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    New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

    http://www.operationsports.com/forums/entertainment-technology/258208-new-co2-scrubber-could-remove-one-ton-carbon-dioxide-air-per-day.html#post2038536132

    This new device could eliminate one ton of carbon dioxide out of the air per day. The average American produces 20 tons of carbon dioxide annually, but technologies generally develop exponentially (think about how little progress there were in computers from 1948 to the 1980s and look at how far we've came in the last 20 years), so this device will be far, far better in the future and could very well be a solution.

    I personally don't really believe in man-made global warming since I think it's just a normal fluctuation of the earth's climate cycle, but this machine (It's still in the development phase, so it will definitely be improved in the future) would eventually allow us to get back to pre-industrial age carbon dioxide levels. So, if the warming was caused by CO2, it would be gone. And we could continue using fossil fuels and whatever else without raising carbon dioxide emissions.

    Oh, and of course the environmentalists like Al Gore oppose it because they really don't care about the environment; it's about money, power, and control over your lives. Typical; they get a possible solution to their problem, then they shun it. And the media is against it, as usual. This should be a major story, but it's not...

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    <!-- end story tools--> <!-- begin media --> <!-- end media --> A group of US scientists has made a breakthrough in developing “carbon scrubbers” to remove excess CO2 from the atmosphere.

    Led by Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner and backed by a private company in Tuscon, Ariz., called Global Research Technologies, the team is working to build a giant “tree” that draws in air and passes it over an ion exchange membrane that traps the carbon dioxide. The gas could then be deposited underground, pumped into a greenhouse where it would help plants grow, or put to some other use.

    The scientists say the device could remove about one ton of CO2 per day from the atmosphere. The average American produces about 20 tons of carbon dioxide each year, contributing to a total worldwide output of about 27 billion tons annually.

    Scientists have speculated about such devices for a few years now (the BBC documented Lackner’s efforts in early 2003), but were unable to find an inexpensive way of separating the trapped carbon from the absorber membrane. But the Guardian, which obtained one of Lackner’s team’s patent applications, reports that the scientists have recently discovered that passing humid air over the membranes causes them to “exhale” carbon dioxide. This development, say scientists, reduce the scrubber’s energy use “tenfold.”

    The June issue of Smithsonian Magazine features a Q&A with Wallace Broecker, one of the lead scientists on this project. Broecker, the Columbia university climate expert who was the first to coin the term “global warming” in the 1970s, describes a device “about 6 to 10 feet in diameter, 50 feet high … like a little silo, in that shape so the wind could blow through it from any direction.”

    He says that we would need roughly 17 million of these scrubbers to take care of carbon emissions from the United States. While they could operate anywhere, they would work best in deserts, Broecker says. That works out to about 60 million or so around the world. While that sounds like a lot, Broecker believes that carbon scrubbing may be our only hope, as humanity will need to continue burning fossil fuels for the short term.
    I don’t think anybody believes that alternatives will supply the energy we’ll need. The long-term solution is solar electricity. But it is far too expensive—there have to be breakthroughs. If they were to occur in the next 10 or 20 years, great, we could put the whole CO2-capture idea on the shelf. But we have to develop that technology, because it looks right now like solar energy is not going to become affordable in that time scale. We are going to need some way to bail ourselves out.

    We have enough coal to run the planet for several hundred years. We could make gasoline out of coal for the equivalent of $50 a barrel. People are not going to use solar energy if it costs 10 times more than energy derived from coal. We are not putting enough resources into developing the technology to capture and store carbon. Everybody is worried about carbon footprints as if that is a solution. It’s not. It is important, I’m not putting that down, but conservation in itself can’t do it. The world has to run on energy.
    According to the Guardian story, the team plans to demonstrate a prototype within two years.

    The device could be eligible for Richard Branson’s Virgin Earth Challenge prize, a competition offering $25 million to whoever can come up with a way to remove at least one billion tons of carbon dioxide a year from Earth’s atmosphere.
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  • SPTO
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    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #2
    Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

    I skimmed through the article...Where's the environmentalists' complaints? I agree that this could be a great thing not only for America but for the entire world. Oh and you know damn well that this will only be reported in the fringe media because the mainstream is backed by the interests that want to continue pollution of the air, land and sea.
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    • Cebby
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 22327

      #3
      Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

      I don't like these kind of solutions.

      I have a feeling that by the time we figure out how to get rid of CO2, Nitrogen, and every other evil gas on Earth, we'll realize that they were essential to some facet of life and we'll all be ****ed.

      My strategy of eliminating the Indochina world is far more appropriate.

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      • ARG190
        Rookie
        • Jul 2005
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        #4
        Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

        Skimmed the article so forgive me if this was answered. Where do these tons of CO2 go?
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        • ezekiel55
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          • Nov 2003
          • 2156

          #5
          Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

          Originally posted by Cebby
          I don't like these kind of solutions.

          I have a feeling that by the time we figure out how to get rid of CO2, Nitrogen, and every other evil gas on Earth, we'll realize that they were essential to some facet of life and we'll all be ****ed.

          My strategy of eliminating the Indochina world is far more appropriate.
          Well, if we removed nitrogen from our atmosphere we would screw a major facet of life...us.

          Nitrogen comprises about 75% of the air we breathe...most people think oxygen is the main gas we breathe.

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          • daflyboys
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 18238

            #6
            Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

            Originally posted by Cebby
            I don't like these kind of solutions.

            I have a feeling that by the time we figure out how to get rid of CO2, Nitrogen, and every other evil gas on Earth, we'll realize that they were essential to some facet of life and we'll all be ****ed.
            Ya, it was the same way with bacon.

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            • dossier
              Banned
              • Oct 2006
              • 2272

              #7
              Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

              Originally posted by ARG190
              Skimmed the article so forgive me if this was answered. Where do these tons of CO2 go?
              Either underground somewhere which to me sounds stupid, or in greenhouses where plants will absorb it and create oxygen through photosynthesis

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              • callmetaternuts
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                • Jul 2004
                • 7045

                #8
                Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

                Interesting article, not sure i know enough to comment outside of that
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                • pfunk880
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 4452

                  #9
                  Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  the mainstream is backed by the interests that want to continue pollution of the air, land and sea.
                  Huh?
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                  • TheGamingChef
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                    • Jun 2006
                    • 3384

                    #10
                    Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

                    Originally posted by superjames1992
                    Oh, and of course the environmentalists like Al Gore oppose it because they really don't care about the environment; it's about money, power, and control over your lives. Typical; they get a possible solution to their problem, then they shun it.

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                    • luv_mist
                      Older
                      • May 2004
                      • 9596

                      #11
                      Re: New CO2 Scrubber Could Remove One Ton of Carbon Dioxide From the Air Per Day

                      Sounds great on paper but exactly how devastating can this be to the earth? The weather could seriously flip out even worse than it has been within the last few years. More tornadoes, hurricanes, monsoons, tidal waves, earthquakes, ect. because of the vast change in the atmosphere. I think it's a good concept but they definitely need to really examine the whole effect that could occur. This definitely can be money in the making also. Lost of scrubbers that could be "needed" around the world.

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