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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #31
    Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

    Originally posted by matt8204
    As he should. Dodd is a total scumbag. First he claimed that he didn't have anything to do with the AIG bonus provision slipped into the stimulus package, then he admitted that he signed off on it. I hope the voters of Connecticut boot him out of office next year. Ridiculous.
    I'm happy to see he did. Goes to show that the Daily Show is totally biased.

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    • Jackdog
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      • Aug 2002
      • 7719

      #32
      Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      I'm happy to see he did. Goes to show that the Daily Show is totally biased.
      When he has them on his show and fronts them like he did Cramer I'll agree.
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      • Blaxican8504
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        • Jul 2002
        • 4150

        #33
        Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

        Originally posted by Jackdog
        When he has them on his show and fronts them like he did Cramer I'll agree.
        I would be shocked if they ever agreed to be on it.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #34
          Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

          Originally posted by Jackdog
          When he has them on his show and fronts them like he did Cramer I'll agree.

          LOL...they have to agree to come on the show. No one is obligated to go on the Daily Show. Cramer agreed to come on the show because he is a TV personality and wanted to debate Stewart's points.

          The reason you wont see Dodd or Frank on the show is the same reason you wont see Phil Gramm or Eric Cantor on this show or Colbert. They are all politicians who dont need the Daily Show for pubicity and arent dumb enough to take a risk by going on a comedy show. Ive watched the Daily Show for almost as long as its been on and I've never seen a politician come on the show if they were involved in a scandal or in the middle of bad press.

          The only politicians you will see on the show are people running for President (who could use the national press) and politicians who are in no danger of not being reelected (like Bernie Sanders). Dodd and Frank arent going to go on the Daily Show during a crisis involving them...they are going to go on a real news network.

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          • matt8204
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            • Sep 2008
            • 1164

            #35
            Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

            Originally posted by aholbert32
            LOL...they have to agree to come on the show. No one is obligated to go on the Daily Show. Cramer agreed to come on the show because he is a TV personality and wanted to debate Stewart's points.

            The reason you wont see Dodd or Frank on the show is the same reason you wont see Phil Gramm or Eric Cantor on this show or Colbert. They are all politicians who dont need the Daily Show for pubicity and arent dumb enough to take a risk by going on a comedy show. Ive watched the Daily Show for almost as long as its been on and I've never seen a politician come on the show if they were involved in a scandal or in the middle of bad press.

            The only politicians you will see on the show are people running for President (who could use the national press) and politicians who are in no danger of not being reelected (like Bernie Sanders). Dodd and Frank arent going to go on the Daily Show during a crisis involving them...they are going to go on a real news network.
            You're right. Obama would never go on Sean Hannity and a conservative wouldn't be caught dead on Olbermann's show. There's no upside. They're going to get steamrolled from the start and the host will think they're wrong no matter what. That's what's wrong with these biased analysts. They simply refuse to see things from the other guy's point of view.
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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #36
              Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

              Originally posted by matt8204
              You're right. Obama would never go on Sean Hannity and a conservative wouldn't be caught dead on Olbermann's show. There's no upside. They're going to get steamrolled from the start and the host will think they're wrong no matter what. That's what's wrong with these biased analysts. They simply refuse to see things from the other guy's point of view.
              A better conservative host to use would be O'Reilly as Hannity's show isn't really an interview show. The closest i've seen to Liberals or Conservatives on those shows are moderates.

              Actually I think O'reilly is actually mellowing in his old age. The Old O'Reilly would've cut down Nancy Pelosi for using private jets on Tax Payers money but he didn't really do that and i've heard him talking with Dick Morris about Obama and how O'Reilly was like "Hey I think the American people want to give him some time and give him a chance".

              That being said he's still very conservative in his views but at least he isn't chopping down every Democrat in sight.

              As for Olbermann I like him but i'm actually enjoying Rachel Maddow's show a lot more. She doesn't use her show as a bully pulpit and is actually quite inquisitive. Of course she has her slant which she uses on the segments she editorializes but when it comes to interviews she's pretty fair.
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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #37
                Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

                Originally posted by matt8204
                You're right. Obama would never go on Sean Hannity and a conservative wouldn't be caught dead on Olbermann's show. There's no upside. They're going to get steamrolled from the start and the host will think they're wrong no matter what. That's what's wrong with these biased analysts. They simply refuse to see things from the other guy's point of view.

                You are right but the Daily Show is a little different. Nobody (Dem or Repub) want to go on that show if they are involved in an ongoing scandal. The last thing they want is to go on a comedy show and risk being made to look like a clown on TV by Stewart.

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #38
                  Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  You are right but the Daily Show is a little different. Nobody (Dem or Repub) want to go on that show if they are involved in an ongoing scandal. The last thing they want is to go on a comedy show and risk being made to look like a clown on TV by Stewart.
                  I wouldn't exactly call Stewart's show a comedy show. I think it's actually a pretty good expose of the craziness of Washington and politics (of course a very biased viewpoint) but the thing that I don't like about Stewart or Maher is that they know their views and shows have a lot of influence with the college crowd but they hide behind the "oh but i'm just a comedian no one should take me seriously"

                  Oh, so it's ok to blast anyone that you don't like while at the same time influencing scores of college age people but not take responsibility for it? They should at least face up to the fact that what they do isn't just entertainment alone.
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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #39
                    Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    I wouldn't exactly call Stewart's show a comedy show. I think it's actually a pretty good expose of the craziness of Washington and politics (of course a very biased viewpoint) but the thing that I don't like about Stewart or Maher is that they know their views and shows have a lot of influence with the college crowd but they hide behind the "oh but i'm just a comedian no one should take me seriously"

                    Oh, so it's ok to blast anyone that you don't like while at the same time influencing scores of college age people but not take responsibility for it? They should at least face up to the fact that what they do isn't just entertainment alone.
                    I see it different. Its not his fault that the main news agencies are so partisan that college age students feel that a comedy show is their best source for news. You would have a point if Stewart actually wanted to be taken seriously. Guys like Olbermann (with his special comments) and O'Rielly want to be taken serious and with that comes a responsibility.

                    Stewart doesnt. He doesnt care if the news agencies pick up on his comments. He isnt trying to influence college students or anyone to agree with his points. Honestly, the Daily Show is no different than the Soup to me. TDS is a snarky clip show with skits and interviews. The only difference is one focuses on politics and the other on pop culture.

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                    • Fresh Tendrils
                      Strike Hard and Fade Away
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 36131

                      #40
                      Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

                      Maher is a lot pushier and arrogant when it comes to his views and arguments compared to Stewart. I enjoy watching Stewart express his views because he doesn't always have to use words to get a point across - Maher tries to make the counter-point guys look like idiots for having a slightly different opinion than him.

                      As for Dodd - that idiot should have been voted out long ago. He's caused a lot of **** for his lack of foresight and lining his pockets with lobbyist kickbacks.
                      Last edited by Fresh Tendrils; 03-20-2009, 05:55 PM.



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                      • J0nnD0ugh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 16602

                        #41
                        Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

                        I can't believe guys are comparing the Daily to Hannity, Oreily, Olbermann etc. Stewart has never claimed to be a serious reporter. The Daily Show has never claimed to be a real news show. They are entertainers.

                        Those other guys claim to be reporters of facts w/o bias. They play favorites, spin & that's reprehensible.

                        Stewart has never made himself out to be anything more than a jokester. As he said on that infamous CNN interview, "Our lead-in is muppets making crank calls". He's not required to show both sides if he doesn't want to. And it shouldn't be expected.

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                        • matt8204
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1164

                          #42
                          Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

                          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                          Maher is a lot pushier and arrogant when it comes to his views and arguments compared to Stewart. I enjoy watching Stewart express his views because he doesn't always have to use words to get a point across - Maher tries to make the counter-point guys look like idiots for having a slightly different opinion than him.

                          As for Dodd - that idiot should have been voted out long ago. He's caused a lot of **** for his lack of foresight and lining his pockets with lobbyist kickbacks.
                          While I think Maher is funny, he takes liberalism to the extreme IMHO. I used to watch his show a lot (as well as his HBO specials) but it's hard for me to really get into him now. I'm sick and tired of a extreme bias on both sides of the aisle.
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                          • Brandon13
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 8915

                            #43
                            Re: Jon Stewart Lays the Smackdown on Jim Cramer

                            Originally posted by matt8204
                            While I think Maher is funny, he takes liberalism to the extreme IMHO. I used to watch his show a lot (as well as his HBO specials) but it's hard for me to really get into him now. I'm sick and tired of a extreme bias on both sides of the aisle.
                            I completely agree.

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